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		<title>By: cyberscan</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14662/comment-page-1#comment-280489</link>
		<dc:creator>cyberscan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;On-Demand video and VUDU delete movies after 24 hours, too. That is not an Apple thing. That is how it works.&quot;

You mean that is how it works for people who like getting ripped off or who do not know better.  The prices for digital content needs to come down or else they will not be able to compete with &quot;piracy.&quot;

If you want to keep the movie, just buy the damn thing. Why would anybody give you a movie for $3.99?

Most movies are simply not worth $3.99.  The reason why the studios should consider selling the movie for $3.99 is because the same movie can be downloaded for no cost.  It is better for the cartels to sell a movie for $3.99 than for them to make nothing at all.  It&#039;s called competition, and the competition is offering a much better price.  Businesses cut off their employees daily to overseas slave simply because using slaves gives them cheaper rates.  The businesses that engage in this practice call it &quot;free market.&quot;  They call it stealing when the same principle is applied to movies and audio recordings.  The cartels want it both ways.  I call filesharing the customers&#039; version of outsourcing.  It may even become perfectly legal if the files are hosted in Antigua. Since the cartels have been so eager to sell U.S. sovereignty down the toilet, they should have to suffer the same blowback that the average American citizen has to suffer.

The prices are perfectly reasonable, by the way. Been to Blockbuster lately?

Yes I have, and their prices are also way too high.  Blockbuster at least has the excuse that once a tangible product (DVD) leaves the store, they are no longer in possession of it.  With digital products, the product never has to leave the possession of the seller, and the buyer still gets to use the product.  With that said, I have to admit, that there is not much cartel product out there that I find pleasing enough to watch for free, so I sure won&#039;t waste my time, bandwidth, or even money to obtain it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On-Demand video and VUDU delete movies after 24 hours, too. That is not an Apple thing. That is how it works.&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean that is how it works for people who like getting ripped off or who do not know better.  The prices for digital content needs to come down or else they will not be able to compete with &#8220;piracy.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you want to keep the movie, just buy the damn thing. Why would anybody give you a movie for $3.99?</p>
<p>Most movies are simply not worth $3.99.  The reason why the studios should consider selling the movie for $3.99 is because the same movie can be downloaded for no cost.  It is better for the cartels to sell a movie for $3.99 than for them to make nothing at all.  It&#8217;s called competition, and the competition is offering a much better price.  Businesses cut off their employees daily to overseas slave simply because using slaves gives them cheaper rates.  The businesses that engage in this practice call it &#8220;free market.&#8221;  They call it stealing when the same principle is applied to movies and audio recordings.  The cartels want it both ways.  I call filesharing the customers&#8217; version of outsourcing.  It may even become perfectly legal if the files are hosted in Antigua. Since the cartels have been so eager to sell U.S. sovereignty down the toilet, they should have to suffer the same blowback that the average American citizen has to suffer.</p>
<p>The prices are perfectly reasonable, by the way. Been to Blockbuster lately?</p>
<p>Yes I have, and their prices are also way too high.  Blockbuster at least has the excuse that once a tangible product (DVD) leaves the store, they are no longer in possession of it.  With digital products, the product never has to leave the possession of the seller, and the buyer still gets to use the product.  With that said, I have to admit, that there is not much cartel product out there that I find pleasing enough to watch for free, so I sure won&#8217;t waste my time, bandwidth, or even money to obtain it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14662/comment-page-1#comment-279857</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to keep the movie, just buy the damn thing. Why would anybody give you a movie for $3.99?

No physical disc manufacturing
No box for physical disc because no physical disc
No physical disc transport on trucks
No warehouse costs because no physical discs (no warehouse employee salaries)
No store costs because no physical discs
No store profits because no physical discs and no physical store

Bittorent usues the upload bandwidth of its users so the movie companies don&#039;t need big bandwidth and big servers to serve a million users&#039; movies.  They only need to tell users where to find each other, so no big costs there.

There&#039;s no scarcity with Bittorent, the more people that want a file, the faster and more available it becomes.  

Sorry, there&#039;s no excuse for a movie costing a lot of money.  They&#039;re just being greedy and if you haven&#039;t noticed it&#039;s at your expense if you play it their way.  A fool and their money are soon parted.  DON&#039;T BE A FOOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to keep the movie, just buy the damn thing. Why would anybody give you a movie for $3.99?</p>
<p>No physical disc manufacturing<br />
No box for physical disc because no physical disc<br />
No physical disc transport on trucks<br />
No warehouse costs because no physical discs (no warehouse employee salaries)<br />
No store costs because no physical discs<br />
No store profits because no physical discs and no physical store</p>
<p>Bittorent usues the upload bandwidth of its users so the movie companies don&#8217;t need big bandwidth and big servers to serve a million users&#8217; movies.  They only need to tell users where to find each other, so no big costs there.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no scarcity with Bittorent, the more people that want a file, the faster and more available it becomes.  </p>
<p>Sorry, there&#8217;s no excuse for a movie costing a lot of money.  They&#8217;re just being greedy and if you haven&#8217;t noticed it&#8217;s at your expense if you play it their way.  A fool and their money are soon parted.  DON&#8217;T BE A FOOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14662/comment-page-1#comment-279775</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On-Demand video and VUDU delete movies after 24 hours, too.  That is not an Apple thing.  That is how it works.  

If you want to keep the movie, just buy the damn thing.  Why would anybody give you a movie for $3.99?  

The prices are perfectly reasonable, by the way.  Been to Blockbuster lately?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On-Demand video and VUDU delete movies after 24 hours, too.  That is not an Apple thing.  That is how it works.  </p>
<p>If you want to keep the movie, just buy the damn thing.  Why would anybody give you a movie for $3.99?  </p>
<p>The prices are perfectly reasonable, by the way.  Been to Blockbuster lately?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14662/comment-page-1#comment-279708</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080115-crippled-network-dvrs-alive-could-be-so-much-more.html

Even more C.R.A.P., not from Apple though.</description>
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<p>Even more C.R.A.P., not from Apple though.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If THEY figured out how to get MORE PROFIT while having a ZERO marginal cost (they pay for electricity but so do us), it is perfectly reasonable for their CUSTOMERS to get a share of the decrease of the cost.&quot;

I agree, I&#039;d like to add that it&#039;d be so cheap why bother renting?  just pay $1-$4 to download and keep the movie without DRM.  That&#039;s $8 more than most movies are worth (that&#039;s not a typo, some movies really are that bad).  

With Bittorent they don&#039;t pay for huge bandwidth costs associated with movie downloads.

They won&#039;t do this because they can&#039;t sell the same movie over and over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If THEY figured out how to get MORE PROFIT while having a ZERO marginal cost (they pay for electricity but so do us), it is perfectly reasonable for their CUSTOMERS to get a share of the decrease of the cost.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree, I&#8217;d like to add that it&#8217;d be so cheap why bother renting?  just pay $1-$4 to download and keep the movie without DRM.  That&#8217;s $8 more than most movies are worth (that&#8217;s not a typo, some movies really are that bad).  </p>
<p>With Bittorent they don&#8217;t pay for huge bandwidth costs associated with movie downloads.</p>
<p>They won&#8217;t do this because they can&#8217;t sell the same movie over and over again.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14662/comment-page-1#comment-279503</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; DRM really sucks, but this is rental, get over it.

There is NO REASON in this 21st century to apply limits of 24 hours typical of PHYSICAL products to FILES that are COPIES made without human involvement, FILES that have ZERO marginal cost to produce and are NOT SCARCITY at all!

If THEY figured out how to get MORE PROFIT while having a ZERO marginal cost (they pay for electricity but so do us), it is perfectly reasonable for their CUSTOMERS to get a share of the decrease of the cost.

I could understand if it were discs available for rentals, but why apply that to ephemeral files?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; DRM really sucks, but this is rental, get over it.</p>
<p>There is NO REASON in this 21st century to apply limits of 24 hours typical of PHYSICAL products to FILES that are COPIES made without human involvement, FILES that have ZERO marginal cost to produce and are NOT SCARCITY at all!</p>
<p>If THEY figured out how to get MORE PROFIT while having a ZERO marginal cost (they pay for electricity but so do us), it is perfectly reasonable for their CUSTOMERS to get a share of the decrease of the cost.</p>
<p>I could understand if it were discs available for rentals, but why apply that to ephemeral files?</p>
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		<title>By: Johnnyg0</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14662/comment-page-1#comment-279444</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnnyg0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all against DRM, but still when I rent a movie at the videoclub, I have to bring it back within 24 hours, and if I didn&#039;t had time to watch it by then well too bad for me I still need to return it...

DRM really sucks, but this is rental, get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all against DRM, but still when I rent a movie at the videoclub, I have to bring it back within 24 hours, and if I didn&#8217;t had time to watch it by then well too bad for me I still need to return it&#8230;</p>
<p>DRM really sucks, but this is rental, get over it.</p>
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