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	<title>Comments on: Cisco ISO leak</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1469/comment-page-1#comment-2032</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2004 16:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not quite &quot;the&quot; Microsoft, more &quot;the&quot; IBM.
They have their share of urbis, but unlike M$, Cisco can (sometimes) pick a good idea, buy the company and make it a very good thing (TM) instead of just killing it. It was like this with VOIP IP Phones, they bought a company (can&#039;t remember the name) and in 6/12 mounths Cisco had VOIP in almost all platforms and the IP Phones were selling like crazy. We all know what M$ uses to do...
Oh! And Cisco have a hell of a support. They really try to help you, and if you move enough $$$ they even make customized IOS versions for you (aka &quot;fix THAT bug in THAT version with THIS set of features).

It&#039;s easy to think that CISCO and Microsoft are alike just because both are trying for world domination in their fields.

Without the compilers, linkers and all the libs I don&#039;t belive that the code helps THAT much in finding vulnerabilities. If &quot;they&quot; got everything and &quot;they&quot; can build and run IOS versions at will than yes, but if all &quot;they&quot; can do is look at the source code than I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll be seeing an outburst of Cisco vuln soon.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite &#8220;the&#8221; Microsoft, more &#8220;the&#8221; IBM.<br />
They have their share of urbis, but unlike M$, Cisco can (sometimes) pick a good idea, buy the company and make it a very good thing (TM) instead of just killing it. It was like this with VOIP IP Phones, they bought a company (can&#8217;t remember the name) and in 6/12 mounths Cisco had VOIP in almost all platforms and the IP Phones were selling like crazy. We all know what M$ uses to do&#8230;<br />
Oh! And Cisco have a hell of a support. They really try to help you, and if you move enough $$$ they even make customized IOS versions for you (aka &#8220;fix THAT bug in THAT version with THIS set of features).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to think that CISCO and Microsoft are alike just because both are trying for world domination in their fields.</p>
<p>Without the compilers, linkers and all the libs I don&#8217;t belive that the code helps THAT much in finding vulnerabilities. If &#8220;they&#8221; got everything and &#8220;they&#8221; can build and run IOS versions at will than yes, but if all &#8220;they&#8221; can do is look at the source code than I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll be seeing an outburst of Cisco vuln soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1469/comment-page-1#comment-2031</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2004 12:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he means IOS leak surely?!

It&#039;s about time Cisco got hit, they ARE the Microsoft of the networking business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he means IOS leak surely?!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about time Cisco got hit, they ARE the Microsoft of the networking business.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1469/comment-page-1#comment-2021</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2004 21:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its called damage control and soothing the masses, very similar to the recent vuln in the TCP/IP protocol and how it was handled.  Can&#039;t have us panicking now can they ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its called damage control and soothing the masses, very similar to the recent vuln in the TCP/IP protocol and how it was handled.  Can&#8217;t have us panicking now can they <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1469/comment-page-1#comment-2020</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2004 20:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t need hardware to look at the source code for potential attack points either.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t need hardware to look at the source code for potential attack points either.</p>
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