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	<title>Comments on: Qtrax &#8212; &#8216;death knell&#8217; for CDs</title>
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		<title>By: Julian Bond</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14791/comment-page-1#comment-296080</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t there a good silver lining to this dark cloud? It means there are completely legal reasons to be using Gnutella, Limewire and all the associated software and programs. Maybe.

But at the end of the day it&#039;s MS-DRM, non iPod compatible and therefore doomed to fail. The only winners here are the guys who get to spend that $30m of VC. I bet they had fun in Cannes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t there a good silver lining to this dark cloud? It means there are completely legal reasons to be using Gnutella, Limewire and all the associated software and programs. Maybe.</p>
<p>But at the end of the day it&#8217;s MS-DRM, non iPod compatible and therefore doomed to fail. The only winners here are the guys who get to spend that $30m of VC. I bet they had fun in Cannes.</p>
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		<title>By: YouN00b</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14791/comment-page-1#comment-296059</link>
		<dc:creator>YouN00b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it rather funny that it&#039;s even more illegal to SHARE the music, than to download it. But, with it tapping off of the Gnutella network, they&#039;re basically tapping off of everybody who&#039;s violating the laws they fought to put in place.

Looks like piracy isn&#039;t such a bad thing after all, is it RIAA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it rather funny that it&#8217;s even more illegal to SHARE the music, than to download it. But, with it tapping off of the Gnutella network, they&#8217;re basically tapping off of everybody who&#8217;s violating the laws they fought to put in place.</p>
<p>Looks like piracy isn&#8217;t such a bad thing after all, is it RIAA?</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik imposter</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14791/comment-page-1#comment-296042</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik imposter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually im not a spammer or &quot;media people&quot;. im merely bored at work and making comments to get a rise out of someone. ive also posted as &quot;packin&#039; a vienna&quot; to argue with people about stuff. 


epeen+12 for dreddsnik!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually im not a spammer or &#8220;media people&#8221;. im merely bored at work and making comments to get a rise out of someone. ive also posted as &#8220;packin&#8217; a vienna&#8221; to argue with people about stuff. </p>
<p>epeen+12 for dreddsnik!</p>
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		<title>By: kdsde</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14791/comment-page-1#comment-296037</link>
		<dc:creator>kdsde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me rather waits for amazon FLAC files.

No, wait! I already have the first one, now if only I could pay for it!!

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3979054/Keith_Whitley_-_When_you_say_nothing_at_all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me rather waits for amazon FLAC files.</p>
<p>No, wait! I already have the first one, now if only I could pay for it!!</p>
<p><a href="http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3979054/Keith_Whitley_-_When_you_say_nothing_at_all" rel="nofollow">http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3979054/Keith_Whitley_-_When_you_say_nothing_at_all</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14791/comment-page-1#comment-295985</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather wait for Amazon MP3.
I hate DRM and don&#039;t want it on my computer or anywhere near it.
After the Sony DRM Issue I don&#039;t like the idea of DRM being on anything</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather wait for Amazon MP3.<br />
I hate DRM and don&#8217;t want it on my computer or anywhere near it.<br />
After the Sony DRM Issue I don&#8217;t like the idea of DRM being on anything</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14791/comment-page-1#comment-295962</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe not quite like s/he wanted.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe not quite like s/he wanted.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14791/comment-page-1#comment-295956</link>
		<dc:creator>Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think the spammer would be happy, Jon&#039;s posting info on
Qtrax, like he wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think the spammer would be happy, Jon&#8217;s posting info on<br />
Qtrax, like he wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14791/comment-page-1#comment-295953</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, 
 I personally don&#039;t care if you leave that comment up.
 It just shows just what lengths media people will go when
 the facts don&#039;t live up to the hype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw,<br />
 I personally don&#8217;t care if you leave that comment up.<br />
 It just shows just what lengths media people will go when<br />
 the facts don&#8217;t live up to the hype.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14791/comment-page-1#comment-295951</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jon,
Looks like I really p&#039;od the spammer


the &#039;real&#039; Dreddsnik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jon,<br />
Looks like I really p&#8217;od the spammer</p>
<p>the &#8216;real&#8217; Dreddsnik</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14791/comment-page-1#comment-295901</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can say the same thing:

O RLY?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can say the same thing:</p>
<p>O RLY?</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14791/comment-page-1#comment-295873</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this company created a P2P app that ... oh wait .. no it didn&#039;t

&quot;&quot; The company has pinched what it could from open source land. The fat client is a custom version of Firefox, with a fork of the Songbird music player layered on top. Normally software developers could expect a decent license fee from a $30m start-up for use of their work - but in the new Tim 2.0&#039;Reilly &quot;freetard&quot; model, the Firefox and Songbird developers don&#039;t get a cent for their labour - merely the satisfaction that they&#039;re &quot;building a platform&quot;. &quot;

 ( source  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/27/midem_qtrax_launch/ )

 That supplies &#039;content&#039;  from the labels ... ummm no it doesnt ..

 It uses the Gnutella network, doesn&#039;t the horrendously illegal ( sarcasm ) Frostwire
 use the same network ??

 Content which is completely legal because it&#039;s supported by all the major lab ... oh wait

 &quot; “Universal Music Group and EMI Group PLC later confirmed they did not have licensing deals in place with Qtrax, noting discussions were still ongoing. A call to Sony BMG Music Entertainment was not immediately returned.”

 I guess that would make the legality of this pretty questionable.


 All this and DRM too ...

 &quot; &quot; The DRM ensures that music fans won&#039;t be able to take the music to go: it&#039;s tied to the host computer and the DRM collects play information to be beamed back to the mothership. The reporting isn&#039;t a deal breaker, but the incompatibility may well be. Qtrax said it&#039;s working on cracking Apple&#039;s FairPlay to allow iPod users to take the music and go. &quot; 

 ( source  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/27/midem_qtrax_launch/ )

 The revolution has arrived.
 ( joke .. big joke )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this company created a P2P app that &#8230; oh wait .. no it didn&#8217;t</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221; The company has pinched what it could from open source land. The fat client is a custom version of Firefox, with a fork of the Songbird music player layered on top. Normally software developers could expect a decent license fee from a $30m start-up for use of their work &#8211; but in the new Tim 2.0&#8242;Reilly &#8220;freetard&#8221; model, the Firefox and Songbird developers don&#8217;t get a cent for their labour &#8211; merely the satisfaction that they&#8217;re &#8220;building a platform&#8221;. &#8221;</p>
<p> ( source  <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/27/midem_qtrax_launch/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/27/midem_qtrax_launch/</a> )</p>
<p> That supplies &#8216;content&#8217;  from the labels &#8230; ummm no it doesnt ..</p>
<p> It uses the Gnutella network, doesn&#8217;t the horrendously illegal ( sarcasm ) Frostwire<br />
 use the same network ??</p>
<p> Content which is completely legal because it&#8217;s supported by all the major lab &#8230; oh wait</p>
<p> &#8221; “Universal Music Group and EMI Group PLC later confirmed they did not have licensing deals in place with Qtrax, noting discussions were still ongoing. A call to Sony BMG Music Entertainment was not immediately returned.”</p>
<p> I guess that would make the legality of this pretty questionable.</p>
<p> All this and DRM too &#8230;</p>
<p> &#8221; &#8221; The DRM ensures that music fans won&#8217;t be able to take the music to go: it&#8217;s tied to the host computer and the DRM collects play information to be beamed back to the mothership. The reporting isn&#8217;t a deal breaker, but the incompatibility may well be. Qtrax said it&#8217;s working on cracking Apple&#8217;s FairPlay to allow iPod users to take the music and go. &#8221; </p>
<p> ( source  <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/27/midem_qtrax_launch/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/27/midem_qtrax_launch/</a> )</p>
<p> The revolution has arrived.<br />
 ( joke .. big joke )</p>
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