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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296624</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I downloaded it just to check it out, like I do with a lot of software and I must say in its current state it is as useful as a rock. They have it out as a beta version for testing and the only features that work are the ones that are in Song Bird. So were we meant to test Song Bird or QTrax? Whats up with using a program that hasn&#039;t even hit version 1.0 yet to be the basis of another service that is still in testing. You then run into the problem with is the bug in Song Bird or is it a problem with QTrax. Then on top of all of that they don&#039;t even have the deals with the record labels like they claimed. Well I take what I first said back. A rock is a lot more useful than this program currently is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I downloaded it just to check it out, like I do with a lot of software and I must say in its current state it is as useful as a rock. They have it out as a beta version for testing and the only features that work are the ones that are in Song Bird. So were we meant to test Song Bird or QTrax? Whats up with using a program that hasn&#8217;t even hit version 1.0 yet to be the basis of another service that is still in testing. You then run into the problem with is the bug in Song Bird or is it a problem with QTrax. Then on top of all of that they don&#8217;t even have the deals with the record labels like they claimed. Well I take what I first said back. A rock is a lot more useful than this program currently is.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296083</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting post by ddbann found here ...

http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?=&amp;p=388164

&quot; by ddbann on Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:52 pm 

I know how to use P2P. Frostwire is on my computer. From time to time I use it and it&#039;s legal in Canada to download but I prefer subcription services like yahoo music unlimited or napster.ca because it&#039;s organized, immdeiate and virus free. it comes with radio like playlists and reviews, bio&#039;s , video&#039;s etc. for .50 cents a day i spend more of my time listening to music than looking for it. i really don&#039;t mind paying $15 a month for access to music. as a musician i feel the music and the effort is worth something and musicans should be getting something from me for contributing to my enjoyment of life.ddbann 
  
Posts: 25
Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:44 pm 
Website  &quot;

 The most interesting part of this post is that ddbann does have and use Frostwire and 
 IS FULLY AWARE that it is legal in Canada. So all of his legal or not legal posturing.

 &quot; . as a musician i feel the music and the effort is worth something and musicans should be getting something from me for contributing to my enjoyment of life &quot;

 In this he is absolutely correct.
 The labels will NEVER let this happen.
 I believe he know this as well, in the same way he was already aware of the 
 legal status of downloading in canada.

 How can ANYONE honestly believe that the labels will ever treat their artists fairly ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting post by ddbann found here &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?=&amp;p=388164" rel="nofollow">http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?=&amp;p=388164</a></p>
<p>&#8221; by ddbann on Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:52 pm </p>
<p>I know how to use P2P. Frostwire is on my computer. From time to time I use it and it&#8217;s legal in Canada to download but I prefer subcription services like yahoo music unlimited or napster.ca because it&#8217;s organized, immdeiate and virus free. it comes with radio like playlists and reviews, bio&#8217;s , video&#8217;s etc. for .50 cents a day i spend more of my time listening to music than looking for it. i really don&#8217;t mind paying $15 a month for access to music. as a musician i feel the music and the effort is worth something and musicans should be getting something from me for contributing to my enjoyment of life.ddbann </p>
<p>Posts: 25<br />
Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:44 pm<br />
Website  &#8221;</p>
<p> The most interesting part of this post is that ddbann does have and use Frostwire and<br />
 IS FULLY AWARE that it is legal in Canada. So all of his legal or not legal posturing.</p>
<p> &#8221; . as a musician i feel the music and the effort is worth something and musicans should be getting something from me for contributing to my enjoyment of life &#8221;</p>
<p> In this he is absolutely correct.<br />
 The labels will NEVER let this happen.<br />
 I believe he know this as well, in the same way he was already aware of the<br />
 legal status of downloading in canada.</p>
<p> How can ANYONE honestly believe that the labels will ever treat their artists fairly ?</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296073</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; just consuming music and enjoying is much more worth my time &quot;

 This is true.
 That&#039;s why I buy second hand CD&#039;s from Pawn shops and rip them to my
 home network.

 I get what I want.
 RIAA Labels get nothing from me.
 It&#039;s much cheaper ( 1.00 $US for a used cd )
  AND it&#039;s unquestionably legal.

 ( I can also use the resulting Mp3 files in anyway, or on any device I
 choose, without going through DRM hoops .. nice )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; just consuming music and enjoying is much more worth my time &#8221;</p>
<p> This is true.<br />
 That&#8217;s why I buy second hand CD&#8217;s from Pawn shops and rip them to my<br />
 home network.</p>
<p> I get what I want.<br />
 RIAA Labels get nothing from me.<br />
 It&#8217;s much cheaper ( 1.00 $US for a used cd )<br />
  AND it&#8217;s unquestionably legal.</p>
<p> ( I can also use the resulting Mp3 files in anyway, or on any device I<br />
 choose, without going through DRM hoops .. nice )</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296072</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have nothing more to post here. I know you&#039;ll say &quot;good riddance&quot; but you know what? I feel relief and now I can go do what I want to and enjoy my music and feel good about the way I get it. Goodbye to all. ddbann out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have nothing more to post here. I know you&#8217;ll say &#8220;good riddance&#8221; but you know what? I feel relief and now I can go do what I want to and enjoy my music and feel good about the way I get it. Goodbye to all. ddbann out.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296066</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really don&#039;t get it do you ?

There are already a ton of clients that use the very same Gnutella network.
Some of them work really well, and have no drm problems.

No one wants this, no one cares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really don&#8217;t get it do you ?</p>
<p>There are already a ton of clients that use the very same Gnutella network.<br />
Some of them work really well, and have no drm problems.</p>
<p>No one wants this, no one cares.</p>
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		<title>By: arboretum</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296064</link>
		<dc:creator>arboretum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;you&#039;re wrong&quot; == &quot;you are wrong&quot;
&quot;your wrong&quot; == &quot;I have the reading age of a 10 year old&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you&#8217;re wrong&#8221; == &#8220;you are wrong&#8221;<br />
&#8220;your wrong&#8221; == &#8220;I have the reading age of a 10 year old&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296063</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things will be ironed out ASAP and in a month this client will be very popular for people who want this type of service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things will be ironed out ASAP and in a month this client will be very popular for people who want this type of service.</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296058</link>
		<dc:creator>Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; I got the client downloaded. &quot;

 Good for you :)

 Since there are no agreements with any of the labels, by your reckoning
 it&#039;s not legal to use anyway. Have fun with that .. rofl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; I got the client downloaded. &#8221;</p>
<p> Good for you <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> Since there are no agreements with any of the labels, by your reckoning<br />
 it&#8217;s not legal to use anyway. Have fun with that .. rofl</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296055</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do you really think anybody gives a shit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you really think anybody gives a shit?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296052</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the client downloaded. I can&#039;t post the download link for you because of course, &quot;that&#039;s a load of spam&quot; Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the client downloaded. I can&#8217;t post the download link for you because of course, &#8220;that&#8217;s a load of spam&#8221; Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296049</link>
		<dc:creator>henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I signed up for the supposed email notification using various email addressen over the several eons that qtrax has been promsing the earth. Nichts, zip, niente. A bit like grooveshark really. Not entirely sure what the aborted release announcement was supposed to achieve, apart from ridicule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I signed up for the supposed email notification using various email addressen over the several eons that qtrax has been promsing the earth. Nichts, zip, niente. A bit like grooveshark really. Not entirely sure what the aborted release announcement was supposed to achieve, apart from ridicule.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296043</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t consider screenshots as proof of famous vapouware actually out in the real world as spam. If you don&#039;t think this is a big step forward for the music industry which changes at a disabled half dead snail&#039;s pace I think your wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t consider screenshots as proof of famous vapouware actually out in the real world as spam. If you don&#8217;t think this is a big step forward for the music industry which changes at a disabled half dead snail&#8217;s pace I think your wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296040</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Whatâs wrong disscussion of a big development in the music busissness?&quot;

Nothing, as long as it&#039;s a discussion and not another load of blatant spam. 

As to it being a &quot;big development&quot; ----- :)

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Whatâs wrong disscussion of a big development in the music busissness?&#8221;</p>
<p>Nothing, as long as it&#8217;s a discussion and not another load of blatant spam. </p>
<p>As to it being a &#8220;big development&#8221; &#8212;&#8211; <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296034</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t spam. I am reporting and commenting on a news story in the realm of digital music. Am I a &quot;fanboy&quot; yes. Spammer? no! What&#039;s wrong with disscussion of a big development in the music busissness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t spam. I am reporting and commenting on a news story in the realm of digital music. Am I a &#8220;fanboy&#8221; yes. Spammer? no! What&#8217;s wrong with disscussion of a big development in the music busissness?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296033</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The site is not offline.&quot;

Yup. It&#039;s back up. 

hooray hooray

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The site is not offline.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yup. It&#8217;s back up. </p>
<p>hooray hooray</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Paulus</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296027</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are watching p2pnet like hawks and you obviously have them &quot;all hot and bothered&quot; too.

It is very funny to watch their spam attempts ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are watching p2pnet like hawks and you obviously have them &#8220;all hot and bothered&#8221; too.</p>
<p>It is very funny to watch their spam attempts <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14801/comment-page-1#comment-296024</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The site is not offline. The client is out. Those who signed up for email notification were sent a download link. I have installed the client. The downloads are not available yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The site is not offline. The client is out. Those who signed up for email notification were sent a download link. I have installed the client. The downloads are not available yet.</p>
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