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	<title>Comments on: Woolies dumps HD DVD</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14808/comment-page-1#comment-299474</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 06:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t buy optical discs, instead I download them from the net (specifically, compressed 700-1.3 gb). So I guess this so called format war doesn&#039;t include me :)
As for backing up data, flimsy, small, and unreliable optical discs are not up for the challenge. I prefer to use pen drives, portable external hardrives (350gb), or a NAS (network attached storage). 

The HD market supposition is based on the premise that consumers will be buying optical discs in droves. This hasn&#039;t happened yet; And at current adoption rates, it doesn&#039;t look pretty. Hell, sony is relying on the playstation to trigger critical mass; What does that suggest?

Lets be realistic here; Media centres are becoming more pervasive; You can convert older pcs into one with little trouble. So the question arises, if we have a network where video can be downloaded / streamed, why do we need HD players, HD discs, and HDMI DRM displays ? The simple answer is we don&#039;t. Network bandwidth is continuously increasing, which renders optics and content protection (this is only for the benefit of the entertainment cartels) redundant. Say no cartel sponsered HDMI, and yes to DVI (DRM free digital video standard which existed long before HDMI, and is ubiquitous in the pc / media centre market; note that most tv sets also support DVI).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t buy optical discs, instead I download them from the net (specifically, compressed 700-1.3 gb). So I guess this so called format war doesn&#8217;t include me <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
As for backing up data, flimsy, small, and unreliable optical discs are not up for the challenge. I prefer to use pen drives, portable external hardrives (350gb), or a NAS (network attached storage). </p>
<p>The HD market supposition is based on the premise that consumers will be buying optical discs in droves. This hasn&#8217;t happened yet; And at current adoption rates, it doesn&#8217;t look pretty. Hell, sony is relying on the playstation to trigger critical mass; What does that suggest?</p>
<p>Lets be realistic here; Media centres are becoming more pervasive; You can convert older pcs into one with little trouble. So the question arises, if we have a network where video can be downloaded / streamed, why do we need HD players, HD discs, and HDMI DRM displays ? The simple answer is we don&#8217;t. Network bandwidth is continuously increasing, which renders optics and content protection (this is only for the benefit of the entertainment cartels) redundant. Say no cartel sponsered HDMI, and yes to DVI (DRM free digital video standard which existed long before HDMI, and is ubiquitous in the pc / media centre market; note that most tv sets also support DVI).</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael Venegas</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14808/comment-page-1#comment-298907</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael Venegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT IS THE CONSUMER WHO WILL DECIDE

The demise of HD-DVD is premature, mainly because the biggest users of opticl disk are not movie studios or record companies. It&#039;s the consumer who buys disks by the truckload so as to copy/backup data and, yes, copy/backup purchased (by someone) commercial optical disk products, that will make or break optical disk products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT IS THE CONSUMER WHO WILL DECIDE</p>
<p>The demise of HD-DVD is premature, mainly because the biggest users of opticl disk are not movie studios or record companies. It&#8217;s the consumer who buys disks by the truckload so as to copy/backup data and, yes, copy/backup purchased (by someone) commercial optical disk products, that will make or break optical disk products.</p>
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		<title>By: Ripped Too Oftly</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14808/comment-page-1#comment-298271</link>
		<dc:creator>Ripped Too Oftly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. And Woolies is nothing like Walmart.
It&#039;s not somewhere the mentally firm would choose to shop.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. And Woolies is nothing like Walmart.<br />
It&#8217;s not somewhere the mentally firm would choose to shop.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ripped Too Oftly</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14808/comment-page-1#comment-298264</link>
		<dc:creator>Ripped Too Oftly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most ordinary people will prefer to stick with a format they know they can back up, because these damn cheap plastic disks (but not cheap to acquire) scratch all too easily and then they are useless. They are also a perishable medium.

I&#039;d put my money on HD-DVD.

If an indestructible or freely replaceable medium appears, then yes I would agree with unbreakable protection systems. But this will never be the case in a world where money drives everything and the customer is always treated as *dishonest*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most ordinary people will prefer to stick with a format they know they can back up, because these damn cheap plastic disks (but not cheap to acquire) scratch all too easily and then they are useless. They are also a perishable medium.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d put my money on HD-DVD.</p>
<p>If an indestructible or freely replaceable medium appears, then yes I would agree with unbreakable protection systems. But this will never be the case in a world where money drives everything and the customer is always treated as *dishonest*.</p>
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		<title>By: Musico</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14808/comment-page-1#comment-298037</link>
		<dc:creator>Musico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most *honest* people will agree with me, that it is good that Blu-ray prevails, as it has the stronger copyright protection system. One of the enhancements over HD DVD is of course, Region Coding. I&#039;m glad the DVD world is not losing this important feature and I&#039;m sure you are too.

Don&#039;t worry about that slysoft crap. America is actively working to shut it down. Announcements will be made soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most *honest* people will agree with me, that it is good that Blu-ray prevails, as it has the stronger copyright protection system. One of the enhancements over HD DVD is of course, Region Coding. I&#8217;m glad the DVD world is not losing this important feature and I&#8217;m sure you are too.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry about that slysoft crap. America is actively working to shut it down. Announcements will be made soon.</p>
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		<title>By: B_Easy24</title>
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		<dc:creator>B_Easy24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, is this win for Sony and it&#039;s overprice game system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, is this win for Sony and it&#8217;s overprice game system?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14808/comment-page-1#comment-297164</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple iPhone key posted on Digg

http://www.digg.com/apple/18_84_58_A6_D1_50_34_DF_E3_86_F2_3B_61_D4_37_74_iPhone_Key

A comment from Digg:

We did this last time with HD DVD, and now, a few months later, HD DVD has lost the format war.

So by digging this.....

LONG LIVE ANDROID!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple iPhone key posted on Digg</p>
<p><a href="http://www.digg.com/apple/18_84_58_A6_D1_50_34_DF_E3_86_F2_3B_61_D4_37_74_iPhone_Key" rel="nofollow">http://www.digg.com/apple/18_84_58_A6_D1_50_34_DF_E3_86_F2_3B_61_D4_37_74_iPhone_Key</a></p>
<p>A comment from Digg:</p>
<p>We did this last time with HD DVD, and now, a few months later, HD DVD has lost the format war.</p>
<p>So by digging this&#8230;..</p>
<p>LONG LIVE ANDROID!!!!</p>
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