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		<title>By: noticed</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-820810</link>
		<dc:creator>noticed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not really trolling when the troller blatantly does it. 

l2trollimo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not really trolling when the troller blatantly does it. </p>
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		<title>By: pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-313648</link>
		<dc:creator>pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every troll I&#039;ve ever seen had this &#039;free speech&#039; hidden card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every troll I&#8217;ve ever seen had this &#8216;free speech&#8217; hidden card.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-299254</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; This forum is now so much more pleasant without
the likes of musico, RIAA REP etc spoiling things for your followers.

Everyone obeying the House rules and towing the party line
on file sharing and the general opinions of your site, feels just great.

Thank you very much jon. &quot;

 That was not my post.
 Looks like he&#039;s going to troll using my name.

 I&#039;ll e-mail you right now to confirm this Jon, since you have
 my real e-mail addy and RL name.

 Dreddsnik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; This forum is now so much more pleasant without<br />
the likes of musico, RIAA REP etc spoiling things for your followers.</p>
<p>Everyone obeying the House rules and towing the party line<br />
on file sharing and the general opinions of your site, feels just great.</p>
<p>Thank you very much jon. &#8221;</p>
<p> That was not my post.<br />
 Looks like he&#8217;s going to troll using my name.</p>
<p> I&#8217;ll e-mail you right now to confirm this Jon, since you have<br />
 my real e-mail addy and RL name.</p>
<p> Dreddsnik</p>
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		<title>By: Quartz</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-299144</link>
		<dc:creator>Quartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone operating their own forum meets this problem at some stage in its lifespan, the rights to free speech versus the rights to disregard abusive posters is often hotly debated and often leaves an acrimonious taste for all involved.

The rule of thumb I use is a fairly simple one, do they make their point without launching into unecessarily personal attacks on folks, in short is respect to other posters opinions shown in exchange for the right to make posts ?

If its clear there is no respect for the opinions of others then for the good of the community and you sanity, it is best to deny the trolls the attention they crave, whilst we all do our best to ensure valid and vibrant discussion topics are what we deliver up to visitors, the reality of life sadly is that sometimes our hands are forced and as Jon has done we make our regret public but act firmly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone operating their own forum meets this problem at some stage in its lifespan, the rights to free speech versus the rights to disregard abusive posters is often hotly debated and often leaves an acrimonious taste for all involved.</p>
<p>The rule of thumb I use is a fairly simple one, do they make their point without launching into unecessarily personal attacks on folks, in short is respect to other posters opinions shown in exchange for the right to make posts ?</p>
<p>If its clear there is no respect for the opinions of others then for the good of the community and you sanity, it is best to deny the trolls the attention they crave, whilst we all do our best to ensure valid and vibrant discussion topics are what we deliver up to visitors, the reality of life sadly is that sometimes our hands are forced and as Jon has done we make our regret public but act firmly.</p>
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		<title>By: Just my two cents</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-299071</link>
		<dc:creator>Just my two cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trolls have no place on the net.

And as for trolls who cry free speech, this is not a publicly funded site, but a privately owned site.  The owner is not required to accept any comment blind sighted.

If your only place in life, is trying to make other angry, then find another site to post at, or better yet, make your own rant site or blog.  

just my two cents</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trolls have no place on the net.</p>
<p>And as for trolls who cry free speech, this is not a publicly funded site, but a privately owned site.  The owner is not required to accept any comment blind sighted.</p>
<p>If your only place in life, is trying to make other angry, then find another site to post at, or better yet, make your own rant site or blog.  </p>
<p>just my two cents</p>
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		<title>By: Padonak</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-298845</link>
		<dc:creator>Padonak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;ALL YOUR TROLLS ARE BELONG TO US&quot; -
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;ALL YOUR TROLLS ARE BELONG TO US&#8221; -</p>
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		<title>By: djdjkd</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-298644</link>
		<dc:creator>djdjkd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>test</description>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-298610</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No kidding! Linking is what the Net is all about. We might as well close our accounts and  start using carrier pigeons if Crookes wins.

But then he&#039;d sue for a ban on those as well ;)

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No kidding! Linking is what the Net is all about. We might as well close our accounts and  start using carrier pigeons if Crookes wins.</p>
<p>But then he&#8217;d sue for a ban on those as well <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Paulus</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-298607</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your Crookes case will be important Canada :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Crookes case will be important Canada <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-298605</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this thread ..

http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14807

 Ddbann demonstrates that someone can disagree and yet
 debate intelligently, without attacking others. Kudos and respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this thread ..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14807" rel="nofollow">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14807</a></p>
<p> Ddbann demonstrates that someone can disagree and yet<br />
 debate intelligently, without attacking others. Kudos and respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-298599</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paulus &gt; On the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/5230776.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nikki Hemming case&lt;/a&gt;, I havenât heard anything from them for months so I donât know what they have in mind.

And on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12640&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Crookes case&amp;&lt;/a&gt;, they havenât set it for trial. But Iâll shortly bringing a motion for dismissal on the vital question of whether or not merely hyperlinking to something equals liability.

Cheers!
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paulus > On the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/5230776.stm" rel="nofollow">Nikki Hemming case</a>, I havenât heard anything from them for months so I donât know what they have in mind.</p>
<p>And on the <a href="http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12640" rel="nofollow">Crookes case&#038;</a>, they havenât set it for trial. But Iâll shortly bringing a motion for dismissal on the vital question of whether or not merely hyperlinking to something equals liability.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-298595</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each major anti RIAA/MPAA sites with forum are infested with Troll paid by the RIAA/MPAA CRIAA, BPI, Vivendi and so forth. This tell you how much a forum such as this one hurt them! 

If you ban them these mercenaries lose ther income this is why they are so piss off by such a ban!

Continue the good work Jon!

You are my hero!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each major anti RIAA/MPAA sites with forum are infested with Troll paid by the RIAA/MPAA CRIAA, BPI, Vivendi and so forth. This tell you how much a forum such as this one hurt them! </p>
<p>If you ban them these mercenaries lose ther income this is why they are so piss off by such a ban!</p>
<p>Continue the good work Jon!</p>
<p>You are my hero!</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-298594</link>
		<dc:creator>Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted this in a different thread, but I think it actually belongs here.

This situation is actually closer to a âHouse Partyâ than a public gathering.
Analogous to a group of people invited to a private residence.
If a guest at this private party gets out of line, does nothing but start
problems, makes things uncomfortable for other guests, the property owner
has the right to ask him to leave or have him removed from his private
property. Free speech isnât the issue in this situation at all.

This is a virtual âprivate partyâ. We are here as guests in jonâs private space.
He has the full right to kick out anyone who comes here just to cause trouble,
and it has nothing to do with âfree speechâ.

 Or Censorship.

 Censorship is a government making sure that sites like this
 are not allowed to exist, let alone flourish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted this in a different thread, but I think it actually belongs here.</p>
<p>This situation is actually closer to a âHouse Partyâ than a public gathering.<br />
Analogous to a group of people invited to a private residence.<br />
If a guest at this private party gets out of line, does nothing but start<br />
problems, makes things uncomfortable for other guests, the property owner<br />
has the right to ask him to leave or have him removed from his private<br />
property. Free speech isnât the issue in this situation at all.</p>
<p>This is a virtual âprivate partyâ. We are here as guests in jonâs private space.<br />
He has the full right to kick out anyone who comes here just to cause trouble,<br />
and it has nothing to do with âfree speechâ.</p>
<p> Or Censorship.</p>
<p> Censorship is a government making sure that sites like this<br />
 are not allowed to exist, let alone flourish.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulus</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-298560</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do things stand with your law cases?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do things stand with your law cases?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-298547</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fun posts are OK, as long as thatâs all they are, and as long as they don&#039;t seriously detract from the issue being discussed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun posts are OK, as long as thatâs all they are, and as long as they don&#8217;t seriously detract from the issue being discussed.</p>
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		<title>By: bo</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14822/comment-page-1#comment-298545</link>
		<dc:creator>bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does this apply to riaa rep?  whoever that is makes me laugh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does this apply to riaa rep?  whoever that is makes me laugh</p>
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