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The Pirate Bay, p2pnet and linking

p2pnet news view | Freedom:- Linking is what the Net is all about.

Showing people where to go, and how to get there. Allowing freedom of speech and expression to prosper.

Without it, the the World Wibe Web would be nothing more than a few feeble strands, Google would be a mere gurgle and Yahoo wouldn’t be anything to shout about.

But according to the music and movie industries, hyperlinking is the online crime of the digital 21st century.

Sweden’s The Pirate Bay has been a thorn in the side of the entertainment cartels for years. Like other sites of its nature, most of which have succumbed to relentless ‘legal’ assault and battery, it’s been interfering with cartel plans to dominate the digital universe. But TPB has not only been hanging in, it’s been going from strength to strength, collecting admirers and supporters in the hundreds of millions.

That’s why, with compliant Swedish and US governments backing them, Warner Music, EMI, Vivendi Universal and Sony BMG, the members of the Big 4 organised music gang, and Hollywood, in the shape of Time Warner, Viacom, Fox, Sony, NBC Universal and Disney, have spent unaccountable millions of dollars trying to nail it having, they figure, already handily disposed of Russia’s AllofMP3.com.

Yesterday, Swedish prosecutor Håkan Roswall spearheaded the corporate move to have Fredrik Neij (’TiAMO’), Gottfrid Svartholm (’Anakata’), Peter Sunde (’Brokep’) and businessman Carl Lundström charged with assisting copyright infringement.

Given that TPB’s servers are stashed here there and everywhere, it’s hard to see what this official effort to crush the site will achieve and,”In case we lose the pending trial (yeah right) there will still not be any changes to the site,” says Sunde.

“The Pirate Bay will keep operating just as always. We’ve been here for years and we will be here many more.”

Linking to links which link …..

p2pnet, too, is being sued for linking, this time by Canadian businessman Wayne Crookes.

But it’s not alone. Crookes is also going after Google, Wikimedia, Pbwiki, Yahoo, MySpace, Openpolitics.ca, Domains by Proxy, Michael Pilling, Hayley Easton, Kate Holloway, Craig Hubley, Frank Cameron, Catharine Johannson, Gareth White, Michael Geist, and a number anonymous individuals.

“Crookes, whose case against Warren De Simone was recently dismissed, claims linking to links which link to items which displease him amounts to defamation,” I posted in June, 2006, going on:

“Now Google is being sued by a London businessman in an(other) landmark legal action, ‘that could hold the US-based company liable for the publication of inaccurate, malicious or damaging material on the internet,’ says The Independent.”

My case hasn’t set it for trial, but I’ll shortly bringing a motion for dismissal on the vital question of whether or not merely hyperlinking to something equals liability.

Fortunately, Crookes suing the Net involves not only a handful of very ordinary, very broke, people, but also a number of powerful and wealthy organisations who can afford the very best in legal representation. This means the case will be properly heard and dealt with, unlike most lawsuits which involve Big Music and Hollywood.

Thanks for the PR

The purely commercial entertainment cartels answer only to their shareholders. But the administrations around the world clock who kowtow shamelessly and blatantly to the cartels ultimately answer to the people who elected them.

An attempt by the Canadian government to impose DMCA-like copyright legislation was blocked at the last moment by an online protest. Whether the success will be carried forward resulting in an abandonment of the Canadian government’s efforts to please America rather than its own citizens remains to be seen.

However, it doesn’t really matter because it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out what’s going to happen when, not if, hundreds of millions of surfers around the world decide they’ve had enough and start using the Net to make themselves heard and felt online and off.

Not too long ago, The Pirate Bay was little more than an oddity which was largely unknown to the world at large.

Now, thanks to the efforts of the entertainment cartels, it’s a byword in millions of households around the world which would otherwise never have heard of it. And the people who run TPB are being cast as heroes.

In much the same way Big Music efforts to crush P2P music file sharing did little more than publicise it, attempts to terrorised TPB into submission have done the same.

The world is moving on

In the extremely unlikely event that it’s somehow taken down, so what? Hundreds of other similar sites will immediately spring up to take its place and instead of the devil they know, and hate, the corporate music labels and movie studios will be trying to deal with scores of other shiny new sites run by eager young innovators who have nothing but contempt for the corporate copyright community.

“In a similar vein,” says the Globe & Mail, “a music search engine called Seeqpod is being sued by the record label EMI because it makes it easy for people to find public mp3 files on the Web (there are half a dozen other services that do the same thing, including Songza and g2p.org). Should that be illegal? G2P.org actually just does a search through Google to find files. If that’s illegal, does that make Google responsible for linking to those files?

“Even if The Pirate Bay is successfully sued, it isn’t likely to affect downloading much. The site may have the largest torrent ‘tracker’ in the world, but it isn’t the only one – there are thousands of them. Even if The Pirate Bay is found guilty and goes out of business, the servers that run the site aren’t actually located in Sweden and will likely continue functioning (The Pirate Bay claims to not even know where the servers are). The founders of the service say their tracker will remain operating even if they are found guilty.”

While the Big Music and Hollywood dinosaurs rant and rave, the world is moving on.They could, even at this late date, retrieve the situation by simply going back to square one to start working with people, including their own customers, instead of against them.

But the chances of that happening aren’t high.

“News of the case was welcomed by representatives of the entertainment industry, who said that there was evidence the site made £1.5m per year,” says Guardian Unlimited, quoting John Kennedy, the man who runs the Big 4’s IFPI (International Federation of Phonographic Industry).

“We welcome the filing of these charges,” he goes on. “The Pirate Bay has managed to make Sweden – normally the most law abiding of EU countries – look like a piracy haven.”

It would have been more accurate for Kennedy to have thanked Swedish government for all the help it’s given the cartels in their pursuit of this, relatively speaking, tiny online operation.

Because the entertainment industry has been behind Sweden’s attacks on The Pirate Bay from day one so the news should indeed be welcomed to Kennedy and the other cartel figureheads for wholly responsible for it.

Sweden’s attack on The Pirate Bay represents hundreds of millions of corporate lobbying (and other) dollars well spent.

Good luck, Neij, Svartholm, Sunde and Lundström.

Jon Newton – p2pnet

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14 Responses to “The Pirate Bay, p2pnet and linking”

  1. Reader's Write Says:

    In America the supreme court, in a landmark case, unequivocally stated that any technology which has substantial non-infringing uses cannot be made illegal. It is a succinct, plain statement in black and white. I don’t know if Sweden has a similar law but that is certainly the tactic I would take in a defense. You can not make something illegal if it can be used for both good and evil; as much as the anti-gunners try to do with personal firearm ownership in the U.S. they will never succeed. You can not hold a firearm manufacturer liable if someone uses a gun to murder; the exact same thing could be said of a car manufacturer being held liable if a car is used to run over someone. That is just silly. The Internet is, by its very nature, an interconnected web of links to various content, some good, some bad. Freedom of speech, at least in America, remains our biggest defense against this lunacy. Let’s hope those ideals will bring lucidity to this Swedish idiocy.

  2. Reader's Write Says:

    “Even if The Pirate Bay is found guilty and goes out of business. . .” The pirate bay is not in business in the sens that they are making money. They are not.

    This is more lies spread by the parasites at the entertainement industry.

    But not to worry because there is a pest killer company willing to work for the pirate bay for Free and they are on there way righ now with their equipments!

  3. Reader's Write Says:

    To prevent fill sharing they would have to make illegal both computers and computer networking. If they want to take any of these from me just come in but you must know that I have the right to bear do and I do. Comme on little brain less parasites! Make my day as you say!

  4. Reader's Write Says:

    It’s a very careful dance they are doing. Trying to sue for infringement based on hyperlinking could get the major heavy weights of the internet involved. You can’t get anywhere on the net without a link. Links themselves have no copyright infringing in and of themselves. That is after all, what TPB itself offers is links, not the material itself.

    Just as almost everyone is familar with, claiming inflated figures tries to justify the time and expense spent to make a case. Drug busts are figured in street value. Who is to say what street value is other than what they claim it to be? Wanna say no, those drugs are X in value very likely places you in the know as someone else they would be interested in looking into the background of.

    As always, it’s been a real stretch to show the profit motive as ads or donations, neither of which is a full time income earner of dependable nature. Site’s such as Oink, if they are run as most forums are run, never requires a donation to be there. Recognising a donator by some extra benefit is a normal reaction of sites. That doesn’t mean they made their fortune off the donation; hardly. In almost all cases, they were not profit ventures but rather a way to meet the bills. Bandwidth and server hosting is expensive. So that is a real stretch to say “the profit motive”.

  5. Reader's Write Says:

    Yeah right! Like they could sink that Pirate Ship!

    Good Luck/Job PirateBay!

  6. Odin Says:

    Long live the piratebay!

  7. Reader's Write Says:

    If you carry the kind of traffic pulled in by the Pirate Bay (in the top 200) you need some serious income just to pay for it. This is why PB is advertising on his web site.

    Claiming that they are for profit is pure propaganda that the entertainment industry learned from their evil spiritual masters, the Joseph Brothers:

    Joseph Goebbels and Joseph Staline!

  8. Reader's Write Says:

    I am sur they are going to BS the judge into trying to make him/her believe (under oath!) that PB is a commercial operation!

    Yes you Honor I swear under Oath (Crossed finger behind their back!) that at PB THEY ARE MAKING TONS OF MONEY!

    And as far as communism propaganda is concerned read what the swedish newspaper Svenska Dagbladet
    Wrote about PB: http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/08/71543

    This is what you call journalistic integrity!

  9. Reader's Write Says:

    “. . .they figure, already handily disposed of Russia’s AllofMP3.com.” Actually they are still in business and the latest court decision was in their favor.

  10. Reader's Write Says:

    Håkan Roswall has been pay by the IFPI to do this dirty job. He is a traitor and should be put in jail!

  11. Reader's Write Says:

    Wayne Crookes is a bag of [four-letter expletive deleted in the interests of cowardice. ;) ]

  12. Reader's Write Says:

    “They could, even at this late date, retrieve the situation by simply going back to square one to start working with people”

    No. It is too late. They got multiple warning from us about what will hapen if they continued their criminals activities.

    They thought taht since they could corrupt a bunch of governement and their justice system they could go away with conducting themselves as the anti-social parasites they are with impunity. WRONG!

    We the customers hold the money and decide who get it. Most of us has decided a while ago to never support these lowlife ever again! As tyhey see their business go down in flame they can keep screaming that it is because of file sharing it will not do anything to save them since most of us want them dead!

    We are getting what we want right now as we speak.In few years from now or sooner all these toxic business will be extinct and the lawsuits will stop.

  13. smithy953 Says:

    its impossible to ever get rid of file shareing totaly, id love to see some one try and take my personal torrent tracker away, ok so its not tht big and it has only one member…. me but ya can think again if ya, hollywood is gttin scared cos they know that if they acctualy do bring down tpb theyl have a whole army of hackers and coders redy and willing to bring them down

  14. j Says:

    Comment in Polish.
    Przyznam, ze mam male wyrzuty sumienia po miesiecznym nie w pelni swiadomym uzywaniu The Pirate Bay, lecz “wkopujac” sie glebiej w temat kto wie czy rzeczywiscie wymiana plikow (sharing files) nie jest przyszloscia netu i wszelkie ograniczenia w ramach copyrights powinny raczej dotyczyc pewnego trybu, okresu obowiazywania restrykcji.
    Pozdrawiam
    Regards

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