Muslims demand removal of Wikipedia Mohammed pix
p2pnet news | Freedom:-By 10:42 am today, 115,516 angry Muslims had signed an online petition demanding the Wikipedia delite images of the prophet Mohammed / Muhammad.
“In Islam picture of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and other Humans are not allowed,” says the petition.
One of the images has the face veiled but, that’s still “offensive to Muslims” and, “I request all brothers and sisters to sign this petitions so we can tell Wikipedia to respect the religion and remove the illustrations … specially this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Maome.jpgsays,” it declares.
But Wikipedia editors aren’t caving in to the demands.
“This page was created in response to certain topics being brought up again and again on Talk:Muhammad, wasting many editors’ time and energy by forcing them to respond repeatedly to the same issues,” says a FAQ, also stating:.
If you are offended by the images (and you have an account), you can change your personal settings so that you don’t have to see them, without affecting other users. This is done by modifying your CSS (Cascading Style Sheet) page, which is individual to each user.
The FAQ also says:
The traditional reason given for the Islamic prohibitions on images of prophets is to prevent the images from becoming objects of worship as a form of idolatry, where the image becomes more important than the subject it represents. However, Wikipedia uses the images of Muhammad as examples of how Muhammad has been depicted by various Islamic sects through history and not in a religious context. Therefore, there are no concerns that the presence of the images on the articles will result in the practice of idolatry among Muslims.
[edit] Aren’t the images false?
So are the images used in articles for Homer, Charlemagne, and Jesus. As there are no accurate images, it is best to use images that are historically significant and/or typical examples of popular depictions. Longstanding tradition on Wikipedia favors any images even representing part of a tradition over none at all.
It is important to understand that these depictions do not mean to present the face of Muhammad; rather, they present the person in the way the artist was more comfortable with and hold no immediate religious value on their own. It is of particular interest that these means of portrayal generally convey one and only one aspect of a particular incident, most commonly the event itself, or maybe the act, as is the case with Western depictions of combat training. The depictions are, thus, not meant to have any accuracy to them, and are presented here for what they are: yet another form in which Muhammad was depicted.
None of these pictures are meant to hold a prominent place in the article, as evident by their placement in the article, nor are they meant as an assault to Islam. As an analogy, Jesus has been presented in a multitude of ways, most of which are entirely inaccurate (Jesus being, according to tradition, a Jew, whereas he is generally depicted with distinctively Byzantine or Caucasian features). It is also worth noting that several factions of Christianity oppose the use of hagiographic imagery (which resulted even in hostilities), but the images are still on Wikipedia, exactly for what they are (i.e. existing depictions of said people) - there is no unspoken insult intended.
Muslims were similarly outraged when cartoons of Mohammed which’d originally appeared in a Scandinavian newspaper start showing up on- and offline
“What can be better than greeting this new 2006 year with a bit of happy and joyful laughter,” posted democracyfrontline.org. “Better still, if we can share this happy occasion with our Muslim brothers and sisters and so I decided to re-post the Jyllands-Posten Mohammedan cartoons.
“This is also to answer the request of our great friend American Crusader who apparently haven’t [sic] had the opportunity to see the cartoons.”
They’re still online.
Stay tuned.
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February 8th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
I agree. Let us also take down images of the Jesus, the Pope and George W. Bush.
February 9th, 2008 at 3:41 am
Sorry dude Freeedom of speach there and laicity. Don’t bother us with your believes and we will not bother you with ours. For those 115,516 fanatic morons that does not like that you don’t have to go to Wikipedia. Deue! Theses images have historic value so the Muslim of the past did not bother when representing Mohamad. And there is a good raeson for that. Are they pretending to be more Muslim than the Muslims of 800 years ago?
I am sorry but I dont’ know where did they find in the Koran that you can not represent mohamad!
It’s like the Jihad BS or the believe that it is ok to beat your wife or to crash airplanes into building!
I don’t believe that these fanatics ever bother to actually read the Koran.
Basically the Koran tell you to behave like the bible and the evangile tell you to behave in your daily live save for unimportant details about how to pray and when. Big deal!
Now what if in my religion Mohamad is considered as a demon? How do you know if you are folowing the right religion? Disturbing hum?
February 9th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Reader’s You SUCK!!! You will burn in hell. There is in Quran, Mohammad is the last Prophet, end of story. Why can someone can represent Muhammad anymore? You talk like You know everything. but, actually you know nothing.
News flash!!! 9/11 not the work of Muslim, read the story… If you’re not stupid.
I bet you’re Jews. That why you hate Muslim so much. Look what your people have done to Palestine. Bravo! Your people kill Isa, Prophet given to Jews. Funny, when you realize what are you doing is wrong? You worship him as your god.
February 9th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
You religious types are all the same…why the fk cant you all just practice your own beleifs without all this bs??? My god when you get down to it religion is just a way to live your life, at the core there all the same..be nice, respect other people ect ect But ohhh no its always the same you all gotta take it upon yourselves to point out whats wrong with every other religion, makes me glad i dont fall for all that shit, i live my life well without all the dumbass crap
February 9th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
According to my religion, where I worship the withered remains of an old peach, it is fobidden to show the color green. I therefore insist that the color green be removed from the entire internet. Additionally, I am offended by things such as grass and trees. I hereby order that every plant on the planet be destroyed so as not to offend my faith. Praise the pit!
February 9th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
“Reader’s You SUCK!!!”
I know. I do. Ad I am glad I do for people like you.
And you are right. September 11 was not done by Muslim since real Muslim would never do this as writen in the Koran. I am not religious but I read the Koran unlike you. This is ironnical. Also real Muslim will not force every women to wear a shador like in Iran for exemple or put a woman to death because she has been raped.
Real jew would not persecute the palestinian people because the Tora forbid this.
Real Christian would never start a war in Iraq based on lies in order to control the world oil reserve killing at least half million people in the process because not only the Bible forbid it but the Evangile forbid it as well.
I simply hate people that persecute the others particularly when they use religion as an excuse for doing so and in violation of the same religions they pretend to folow.
My point is that you people must stop telling others what they can do and not do. You don’t have the monopol on Mohamed and Mohamed is not copyrigthed.
If you don’t like this go back to a cave like Ben Laden and don’t use internet because internet is trully for every one not just Muslim.
By the way my Real Muslim friends does not care about images representing Mohamed on internet nor do they object when women are not wearing a Shador even those that fell like wearing one.
My Real jew friends object of what is done in their name in the middle East.
My real Christian friends are outraged as I am by what Bush who pretend to be a Christian have done killing countless people most of them Muslim.
You are not helping by making people believe that Islam is a religion of intolerance which it is not.
So pipe down!
February 10th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Much of the activities of religions are credited to those religions while it is the actual people behind the scenes that have some motive other than what the religion claims to have at it’s heart that give religion a bad name. There seems to be no tolerance within the enforced religions to conform to people.
It is the zealots, people that think it is ok to blow someone up because they have different beliefs that give religion a bad name. It’s the lack of tolerance for other beliefs that do that.
On the whole I am sure that the Muslim peoples are good folk. But when you get the activists, the zealot, and the puritian involved it turns the good word into something that apparently you have to war over. But this is not just pointed at the Muslim, change the word to Christian, it still reads the same way.
At present I don’t give a diddly about either religion when it is espouted by such individuals that think the whole world must revolve around their particular beliefs. The lack of tolerance in that ensures I won’t be part of it and will look at those pushing such ideas with distain because of those stances.
February 10th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Say what countries do some of you people come from ?
Listen i can not have much respect for people who can’t read or write english.
I was born and raised in america and i am sick of every diaperhead ranting and raving about his phony religion of peace.
As far as i am concerned The so called “Prophet Muhammad” was a dirty old man with a dirty beard who was a fake and a charlatan.
Islam is phony cult that treats women like camels and participates in violence and murder of women in the sick practice of honor killing and sends young men off to their deaths in the name of allah.
Either muslims want to covert other people to their phony religion or kill them.
February 11th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Thegreatdeceiver is as ignorant as they come.
First off, ‘diaperheads’ are Indians with turbins and they are of the Sikh religion, not Islam.
Second, Christianity is responsible for more death and blood than Islam, Judaism, and Buddhism combined.
All these self righteous Christian scumbags…I’d love to see their reaction if Wikipedia changed all it’s pictures of Jesus to pictures of Jesus that portray him as a black man.
You really have to be stupid to think that Jesus was white.
Continue on with your ignorant Eurocentric view of the world. The Truth will always be here to beat you down.
February 11th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
THE SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST!
He! Greatdeceiver!
You know what is the problem with bigots like you?
You are a minority of missadapted!
Most of us, Christian, Jew, Muslim or those without religion are tolerating each other and we want to live together.
Unlike you, we are not unsecured in our believes and actions. We know that, by banding together and supporting each other, we are doing the right thing.
Now some of us, including myself, are moderate in our opinions, but are not neccessary moderate in our actions.
This mean that one day once we will have enought of bigot liike you and others Ben Ladens, Sharons or Bushs, we will catch all of you and lock you in jail togethers.
Then you can kill each others as long as you want too.
While you will probably become extinct the rest of us will prosper.
I believe that you call this the survival of the fittest! Is’n it?
February 11th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Ps: I am mentionning only these 3 religions (Christian, Jew, Muslim) not by disrespect for others religions but because they are the 3 that are giving us the most problems right now.
February 11th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
“. . . Wikipedia changed all it’s pictures of Jesus to pictures of Jesus that portray him as a black man.”
Yo are very right.
Although most people believe that Jesus was probably Arabic it is very possible that he was actually black since palestine has always has a substantial black population too.
February 11th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Anonymous’ new targets?
February 11th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
I’m a bigot ?!!? LOL !!
Listen i have as much disdain for christianity and Judaism and satanism.
Satan is merely an extension of the christian hoax.
Satan is an adversarial character christians cooked up to subjugate disbelievers by horrible death and execution.
You are perfectly correct.
The catholic church was responsible for the murder of millions of innocent people during the spanish inquisition.
I have nothing nothing but disdain for the catholic church and the homo pedophile priests,
Satanism is a legitimate religion and culture much like christianity and judaism and islam.
Here is the satanic commandments.
The Nine Satanic Statements
from The Satanic Bible, ©1969
by Anton Szandor LaVey
1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
February 12th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
sunni muslim does not believe in images so i think it is best to take image down that is my opinion
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February 13th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
I believe that insulting any faith, religion is a crime. there is enough hatred and bloodshed in the world to live with and it is all bcoz of the fact that we have lost respect for other peoples’ beliefs, ideologies and point of views. for the sake of peace and humanity plz show some respect for all who don’t agree with you.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
just remove all this it is not good to do any thing wrong abt any religon
February 16th, 2008 at 8:46 am
All can see the end of that DEVIL who made the cartoon of MUHAMMAD (SAW) and published in the newspaper of NORVAY. He died by fire in his house and got a horrible sight in the hell.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:26 am
Wise man once said: do not engage in talk of religion, politics or child-rearing. With that said, this is an interesting thread showing a lot of emotion and ignorant people….then, luckily, flavored with a few balanced writers and some comedians! I am a practicing Muslim and wish the pictures were not on the site, however, it will NOT effect me nor my religion as I/we do not engage in any idolitry of any of God’s prophets in pictures or statues. Muslims are not allowed to depict ANY prophet including the revered Jesus (Issa) peace-be-upon-him.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:43 am
And hey….a little bit of respect and tolerance could go a long way in a “perfect” world.
February 28th, 2008 at 7:12 am
I was looking at a picture on wikipedia that says “NAZI propaganda”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nazi_Anti-Semitic_Propaganda_by_David_Shankbone.jpg
And I saw the pictures directed against the prophet Mohamed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Jyllands-Posten-pg3-article-in-Sept-30-2005-edition-of-KulturWeekend-entitled-Muhammeds-ansigt.png
The first picture is dubbed “Anti-Semitic” and is assumed to be the work of the devil himself. The second picture is supposed to be some sort of manifestation of freedom and a sign of a healthy democracy. I’m not sure that I understand the absolute wisdom behind this paradox, because they both look the same to me.
After all, world wars usually do not start because of lack of justice but, rather, because of bi-standards.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:38 am
HEY READER :
IF YOU REALLY READ THE KURAN , THEN YOU WOULD KNOW WHY DO WOMEN WEAR SHADOR!!!!!!!AND WHEN THEY WEAR IT AND WHEN THEY DON’T………..THAT MEANS THT YOU ARE A BIG LIER YOU DIDN’T READ THE KURAN …….AND IF YOU DID THEN YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IN IT ……BESIDES THERE ALOT OF THINGS IN YOU’R RELEGION THAT YOU HAVE TO DO AND I CAN’T SEE THAN YOU’R DOING IT I DONT EVEN BELEIVE THAT YOU WHAT IS YOU’R RELIGION IS TALKING ABOUT………AND IF YOU DON’T LIKE MUSLIMS THEN THEM ALONE EVERY ONE HAS HIS OWN BELIVES…….YEAH ONE LAST POINT JUST GIVE YOU’R SELF MOMENT AND THINK ABOUT WHAT’S IN IT THAT MIRACLES THAT HAPPENED AND STILL HAPPENING ………
March 16th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
this is not fair.. islam dont allow any body to make picture of living things …. and we should also respect other religions….. these picture sold be removed
March 17th, 2008 at 8:56 am
these fucky wikipedia should be killed… those who have made these pic are bitch, bloody bastered, fucken,,,,,,,,………….
May 19th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
GO TO HELL WITH DIRTY BELIEFS
September 1st, 2008 at 9:43 pm
these pictures sold be removed