Comments on: Britain to turn ISPs into corporate copyright cops

By: Fassbender

Fassbender — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:50:50 +0000

Yes, it’s about time that something was done to enforce the rights of users. This can only be a good thing in the long run.

Of course, some completely innocent people will occasionally get banned, but they are only a few, don’t have much power to do anything about it and can be considered collateral damage in the wider war.

In the end, all of us will benefit, people.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:56:55 +0000

“b) this law is amended to require proof, and everyone encrypts torrent traffic, and my harddrive is also encryptedâ¦ then you canât prove shit.”

The UK has a law requiring you to give encryption keys or face jail (there is no “Im not telling you” or “I forgot” option to it) , they`ll probably think you have under age pwn on your HD as well btw .

By: 24 hour man

24 hour man — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:20:55 +0000

Go to Hull if you want (no)choice. If they bring this shit in, then the isp can shove their connection up their arse. I will go back to nude badger watching ha-ha.

By: x3style

x3style — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:46:56 +0000

Btw the link above is a direct link to the providers explanation page with updated statistics and rules witch they can change whenever they want. Seems mine are outdated the’ve lowered the peak interval and raised the cap time and now shape for upload too.

By: x3style

x3style — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:43:51 +0000

Yeah its true its allover the place i pay for a 10Mb connection so i can have a 5mb one, sadly theres no other choices all other providers have a even crappier fair use policy it means if u get a 4 MB connection and actually used it for a change u get penalized because u are limiting other users WTF?!?!

Just reinformed myself seems they’re cutting for upload too.

They traffic shaped everyone so they can bring out the 20MB service. Overselling FTL!!

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/traffic.html

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:27:22 +0000

aww got cut of by my not smiling smiley
anyways rest:

doing that would be illigal here, ISPs are not allowed to throttle because of false adverticing case, or somehting like it unless they updated their licences and gave people time to switch supplier.

Cant imagine any small/medium buisseness using Virgin Media.. or heavy users of streaming video and filesharing with friends (that is LEGAL).

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:22:33 +0000

x3style is that shit true? why not go back to selling K56 modems >.

By: x3style

x3style — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:47:11 +0000

Virgin Media already had a hard time keeping its customers after the purchase of a few major isp’s like telewest/ntl because they introduced traffic shaping on they’re unlimited offers that users didn’t have before. Also the implementation of the traffic shaping was totally retarded.
” All these last for 4 hours after witch they apply again the shaping occurs between 4PM-00 Midnight if u get shaped at 11:59 tough luck ur out for the next 4 hours the shaping doesn’t reset at midnight.
Broadband: M 2Mbps
Anyone caught downloading more than 350 MB will have their connection slowed to 1 Mbps download and 128K upload.

Broadband L 4Mbps
Anyone caught downloading more than 750 MB will have their connection slowed to 2 Mbps and 192K upload.

Broadband XL 10Mbps-20Mbps
This tier is getting hit hardest, with the download speed quartered (to 5 Mbps) and the upload slowed to 256K, when the user downloads 3 gig or more in the peak hours.”

Broadband M 22 Minutes of full speed download to get u traffic shaped.
Broadband L 24 Minutes of full speed download to get u traffic shaped.
Broadband XL 10Mbit 39 Minutes of full speed download to get u traffic shaped.

Broadband XL 20Mbit 19 Minutes of full speed download to get your speed QUARTERED (Just because your service is more expensive u receive the extra of not having your speed halved but quartered)”

So welcome to Virgin Media buy your BROADBAND UNLIMITED LIMITED. Where u get to download with what u payed for for 19 to 39 minutes.
For the masochists we recommend broadband XL where u get only 1/4 of what u payed for.
Virgin Media if when u are just doing too well come to us.We promise to screw you over like you’ve never been screwed before.

Also John i think this could do good as an article. Since most of the companies miss advertise they’re products.

By: I AM ISP!

I AM ISP! — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:22:12 +0000

It is a green paper.
It is very unlikely to pass anywhere except through a lords colon.
And finally, the anus.
Where it meets with the white paper.
And finally, flushed by Brown

By: Orson

Orson — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:06:59 +0000

CD’s and DVD’s are on the way out. I would be willing to pay a couple of pounds for a movie download but no more. The movie/music industry have to adapt to the way thing are. They can’t keep paying themselves Mega-wages. I too would go back to using a cheap connection if this comes about.

By: Josh

Josh — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:46:27 +0000

“Users suspected of wrongly downloading films or music will receive a warning e-mail for the first offence, a suspension for the second infringement and the termination of their internet contract if caught a third time, under the most likely option to emerge from discussions about the new law.”

User’s suspected of? That’s the most retarded thing I’ve heard… what if someone legitimately uses BT for transferring things… is their internet gonna be cut off too?

I think ISP’s should have to show proof that they caught you pirating… remind me never to use the internet in Britian, unless
a) this law is revoked, or
b) this law is amended to require proof, and everyone encrypts torrent traffic, and my harddrive is also encrypted… then you can’t prove shit.

By: rodabbey

rodabbey — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:18:16 +0000

This will cost british ISP’s dearly because without being able to use filesharing software i wont need my present expensive unlimited broadband package and will downgrade to an inexspensive alternative mabe even go back to 56k internet connection as will all 8,000,000 fileshare users in UK. GOODBYE BT I NO LONGER NEED YOU…