There’s one incident, reported in the media, that shows just how little regard Bush has for the law; When told that some of the provisions of the Patriot Act might violate the Constitution, Bush is reported to have screamed, “Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”

Bush set the stage for the showdown with the “no immunity” will equal a veto of any bill. So they haven’t bothered to send him something that will be vetoed. He shouldn’t have a problem with that. (but of course you know he does) Breaking the law and seeking immunity after is only because of the fanatical cover up and hiding of records this administration wants to do constantly. I can only believe that there is some serious law breaking going on to want to have all these public records declared security concerns to keep them from being reviewed. Right down to the visitors logs that have always been public before.

It smells of coverup, whether it is or not. Since the Telcos are wrapped up in “national security” no talks, the courts appear to be the only way for the public to find out actually what is going on. Granting immunity will in essence make it impossible to ever find out how far the government has gone in invading privacy since all records are sealed from the government end. So I very much agree with the no immunity until the bottom of the barrel has been viewed. Even then no immunity as at least one Telco knew enough to say “that’s illegal” and refuse to co-operate. So as a citizen I am interested in just how far this has gone, why what they are doing is illegal, and to what extent.