Man gets 2 years for raping 11-year-old
p2pnet news | Crime:- A 25-year-old man who picked up an 11-year-old girl the Swedish website hamsterpaj.se and later allegedly raped her has been sentenced to two years in prison.
The girl had been given her first computer with a web camera for Christmas and, "The man met the girl twice, once in a park in Stockholm and then once in his apartment, where they had sex several times, Dagens Nyheter reports," according to The Local, which goes on:
"The man was convicted of child rape and sexual exploitation of a minor. In addition to the two year prison sentence the 25-year-old was ordered to pay 75,000 kronor ($11,881) in compensation.
The story has the girl’s father saying he believes the sentence was light because, "there was no attack. He has manipulated her into this."
The jailed men claimed the girl was the instigator, the girl’s father told Dagens Nyheter, says the post, adding:
"Johan Höglund at hamsterpaj.se concedes that the site has a moral responsibility to prevent and hinder such things occurring but argues that they ‘can not act as baby-sitters.’ Höglund points out to Dagens Nyheter that thousands of children under 13 years of age visit the site every week."
Also See:
The Local – Prison for rape of 11-year-old, February 23, 2008
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February 25th, 2008 at 8:07 am
This shows how upside down the laws are. This guy rapes an 11yr old and gets two years in jail and pays $11,000 in fines, yet someone uploads a movie and they get up to five years and hundred of thousands in fines. The system is totally backwards anymore.
You can see the laws that an actual court sets up and the laws that corporations have thier hands in. The courts worry about human rights and such so you end up with seemlying lower jail time and fines. The corporations are about money money and greed and so you have outlandish amount of fines and jail time for something like copyright infringement.
Castrate this guy and make the copyright infringer promise never to buy or download corporate garbage ever again.
To me those would be proper punishment for the above crime and the so called infringement.
February 25th, 2008 at 8:54 am
Very well said, I agree!!
February 25th, 2008 at 10:00 am
The guy should have been given 25 years to life and have his balls cut off.
February 25th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Ehm, this has actually spurred some controversity in Sweden, because appearantly, the initiator was the child, and the sex was voluntary. It’s the Swedish law who defines sex with a person under the age of 15 as rape, regardless!
So, for something she did out of curiosity, she has now been stigmatized.
I prefer reading about file sharing, so I haven’t really examined this topic and, alas, I have no English sources. But for those who know Swedish, I can recommend this blog entry:
http://tianmi.info/blogge/posts/08/02/23/Det-gor-ont-nar-knoppar-brister/
February 25th, 2008 at 11:28 am
^^ Known in the US as statutory rape, I believe.
And, a by the way: the link provided translates as “It-hurts-when-buds-burst”…
February 25th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
I don’t care how this story gets spun by the defense of this loser, I have an 11 year old daughter and if this were my child the monster would not be breathing. An 11 year old child does not have the maturity to initiate sex and for anyone to suggest it it is crazy. This child was manipulated by an adult and he should be paying for his crime not getting a little slap on the wrist. It just makes me sick!! What the hell is wrong with people??
February 25th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
^^ I have an 11-year-old daughter as well and I wholeheartedly agree with Stacey’s views.
Cheers!
February 25th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
the guy deserves ALOT more than 2 years and a small fine. this is a case where if this happened in the US, he would have gotten a far worse punishment. wheres chris hanson on this?
February 25th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
This story and its responses worry me greatly. I worry that people feel “safe” to be as irrational as they please against the ‘monster’ because no one dares argue, even to the point of hinting at murder. I worry that the girl will be hurt psychologically by the implication that what she did was wrong (but it won’t matter, because later on, any problems she has will be pinned to the ‘monster’) and I worry about how she feels about this becoming a national issue (even if her identity is secret). In falling over ourselves to hate the ‘monster’, it seems that no one actually cares about what happens to the kid.
And Jon, you champion against those who would inflame the offence of Copyright Infringement to a Felony of Theft – what about calling this by a more rational term – maybe “illegal seduction”? People who call this “rape” do a disservice to those who have actually been raped. Rape is on a par with torture; if you don’t understand this, read the story of someone who really was raped.
Two years seems low to fair. It’s non-trivial, and yet it sufficiently less than a murder sentence to encourage perpetrators not to simply dismember and incinerate their victims.
And I guess people will disagree with me – that’s the price of standing up for what you believe in. It’s okay. It’s a free country.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Children mature at different times. You can’t simply say she didn’t know what she was doing because of her age. The children of today are not the ones found in your youth. Though, I am in no way advocating what he did.
February 25th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
“Children mature at different times. You canât simply say she didnât know what she was doing because of her age. The children of today are not the ones found in your youth. Though, I am in no way advocating what he did.”
Spoken by someone who obviously doesn’t understand genetics. Just because children “seem” different to you doesn’t mean they are. You are rationalizing by implying “I’m the same, it’s everyone else that’s different.”
It is our duty to give every child to grow in an environment where they can learn appropriate ways to act without being preyed on by those whom would take advantage of their naivety.
Additionally, we need to recognize that it doesn’t matter at what rate someone may believe a child is maturing. There are certain acts that harmful to children whether or not their hormones are starting to kick in.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:33 am
I don’t believe anything, the truth is in the world we live in. We are forcing our children to grow up faster but still expect them to act like children when past norms say they should. Intelligence does not go hand in hand with childhood innocence. Ignorance is bliss, remember? Should I go on? I can go further and ruin your argument more.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Hey, this is the world you wanted without God. Hope you like it.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
PRAISE JESUS! Nah, just kidding. Keep your faith comments to yourself.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
“I donât believe anything, the truth is in the world we live in. We are forcing our children to grow up faster but still expect them to act like children when past norms say they should. Intelligence does not go hand in hand with childhood innocence. Ignorance is bliss, remember? Should I go on? I can go further and ruin your argument more.”
Your lack of common sense and willingness to make excuses for those whom prey on children sickens me.
February 28th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
“There are certain acts that harmful to children whether or not their hormones are starting to kick in.”
Can you site a reference that proves that sex is harmful to children, even when there is no force *AND* when adults don’t later drill it into their heads that they were “harmed” by what they did?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 am
Are you defending the perpetrator Rekrul? Even the law recognizes the need to protect children from sexual abuse,
and it is termed ‘rape’ because a virgin or non-virgin child has little concept of sexuality or the effects.
Of the nine coping methods used by one group of adult survivors studied in England, the ones who denied, avoided,
or suppressed the issue suffered the greater emotional maladjustment and distress in adult life.
This case also illustrates the criminal disparity between serious offenses and petty. It seems every effort is made to
severely punish the innocent, whilst they bend over backwards to defend the “rights” of the criminal and lighten his load.
This is no justice at all, and that guy should receive 25 years non-parole. If it were my daughter I’d be plotting to have
the castration done as well, although I guess he’d still have a great oral time in prison.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:25 am
BTW Jon’s a good egg. Onya Jon
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:31 am
“The story has the girlâs father saying he believes the sentence was light because, “there was no attack. He has manipulated her into this.”
Is the father explaining why he feels the sentence was light, or is he saying it was too light because the manipulation made it worse?