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	<title>Comments on: Suing file sharers doesn&#8217;t work: RIAA</title>
	<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203</link>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-356024</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-356024</guid>
		<description>"What about books, art work, videos? You can’t compensate music, without everyone else! Which effectively renders it inapplicable."

The Canadian Private Copying Collective is already acting as a collection agency for Big music.
They have been compensating music "without everyone else" since the century turned over.
http://cpcc.ca/english/finHighlights.htm
They have collected $200 million off us so far from recordable CDs. The distribution is based on representative samples of commercial radio airplay and album sales.

When a new indie band hands me their brand new CD they just made and are so proud of, I always think about how they had to pay a tariff (which they probably aren't even aware of) on each blank CD, to a bunch of Parasites... for WHAT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What about books, art work, videos? You can’t compensate music, without everyone else! Which effectively renders it inapplicable.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Canadian Private Copying Collective is already acting as a collection agency for Big music.<br />
They have been compensating music &#8220;without everyone else&#8221; since the century turned over.<br />
<a href="http://cpcc.ca/english/finHighlights.htm" rel="nofollow">http://cpcc.ca/english/finHighlights.htm</a><br />
They have collected $200 million off us so far from recordable CDs. The distribution is based on representative samples of commercial radio airplay and album sales.</p>
<p>When a new indie band hands me their brand new CD they just made and are so proud of, I always think about how they had to pay a tariff (which they probably aren&#8217;t even aware of) on each blank CD, to a bunch of Parasites&#8230; for WHAT?</p>
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		<title>By: x</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-355107</link>
		<author>x</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-355107</guid>
		<description>I DL tons of Linux distros all the time, some are DVD iso files, that's a lot of GBs, I DL these distributions over encrypted connections; now, prove I'm not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I DL tons of Linux distros all the time, some are DVD iso files, that&#8217;s a lot of GBs, I DL these distributions over encrypted connections; now, prove I&#8217;m not.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-355042</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-355042</guid>
		<description>“The shift will be to subscription services costing (high bandwidth users) a fee, as much as $12 a month,” 

In your Dream Buddy!  We are not going to feed parasites like you anyway!

We will oppose and resist any extortion scheme you try to put on the table until you die. 

We need no funking Vivendi Universal, No Bloody Sony/BMG, No Crapy EMI and no moroninc Time Warner because we can and will pay the artists we like directly. 

We don't need no fucking RIAA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The shift will be to subscription services costing (high bandwidth users) a fee, as much as $12 a month,” </p>
<p>In your Dream Buddy!  We are not going to feed parasites like you anyway!</p>
<p>We will oppose and resist any extortion scheme you try to put on the table until you die. </p>
<p>We need no funking Vivendi Universal, No Bloody Sony/BMG, No Crapy EMI and no moroninc Time Warner because we can and will pay the artists we like directly. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need no fucking RIAA!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-354971</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-354971</guid>
		<description>What about books, art work, videos? You can't compensate music, without everyone else! Which effectively renders it inapplicable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about books, art work, videos? You can&#8217;t compensate music, without everyone else! Which effectively renders it inapplicable.</p>
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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-354858</link>
		<author>Rekrul</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-354858</guid>
		<description>What if you don't download music, do you still have to pay? What if you download TV shows? Or movies? All the focus is on music, but the P2P networks and other sources are used for a lot more than just songs. Personally, I hardly ever download music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if you don&#8217;t download music, do you still have to pay? What if you download TV shows? Or movies? All the focus is on music, but the P2P networks and other sources are used for a lot more than just songs. Personally, I hardly ever download music.</p>
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		<title>By: Mostly Harmless</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-354833</link>
		<author>Mostly Harmless</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-354833</guid>
		<description>“Raising awareness of the [questionable] morality [&#38; unabashed hypocrisy] of the RIAA would appear to be working..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Raising awareness of the [questionable] morality [&amp; unabashed hypocrisy] of the RIAA would appear to be working&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael Venegas</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-354829</link>
		<author>Rafael Venegas</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-354829</guid>
		<description>ELIMINATE ALL MIDDLEMAN ROYALTY COLLECTORS

"As the internet enables more and more people to become distributors of their own creations, how will these fees be distributed?"

As a recent story said, RIAA, so they say, has not found a way to distribute the money obtained (earned is not right) from lawsuits,

The songwriter union (ASCAP) has also not found a way other than a radio play sampling system that is just plain fraud.

Really, lets not be naive. There is no way any organization whose owners (or the so called membership) have a profit motive will want to find a way to fairly distribute wahtever income there is and if they find a way, fraud will take over.

Then, what is the solution?

1. The collection process must be socialized. Yes I know, goverment cannot be trusted for such matters. They can be trusted only to produce atomic bombs, armaments and war.

2. Strict record keeping of sales (CD/DVD...). Simple with computers.

3. Strict record keeping of public performances (radio/clubs/concerts/internet) and audience size. Simple with computers.

4. ELIMINATE ALL MIDDLEMAN ROYALTY COLLECTORS such as music publisher, artists managers and record companies. If these are needed by artists and songwriters for promotion, they should be paid by the artists after they are paid.

5. Open all records to public view and public scrutiny. The Internet makes it a breeze. In the old system everything is "confidential" and we know whose (certainly not the artists and sondwriters) idea is to keep everything secret.

Sure, no one wants to be on the work end of record keeping but that is part of commerce, industry, government, payrolls, etc. Record keeping is far easier and automated today thanever.

Respect for performing musicians-artists and songwriters should make the work unobjectionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ELIMINATE ALL MIDDLEMAN ROYALTY COLLECTORS</p>
<p>&#8220;As the internet enables more and more people to become distributors of their own creations, how will these fees be distributed?&#8221;</p>
<p>As a recent story said, RIAA, so they say, has not found a way to distribute the money obtained (earned is not right) from lawsuits,</p>
<p>The songwriter union (ASCAP) has also not found a way other than a radio play sampling system that is just plain fraud.</p>
<p>Really, lets not be naive. There is no way any organization whose owners (or the so called membership) have a profit motive will want to find a way to fairly distribute wahtever income there is and if they find a way, fraud will take over.</p>
<p>Then, what is the solution?</p>
<p>1. The collection process must be socialized. Yes I know, goverment cannot be trusted for such matters. They can be trusted only to produce atomic bombs, armaments and war.</p>
<p>2. Strict record keeping of sales (CD/DVD&#8230;). Simple with computers.</p>
<p>3. Strict record keeping of public performances (radio/clubs/concerts/internet) and audience size. Simple with computers.</p>
<p>4. ELIMINATE ALL MIDDLEMAN ROYALTY COLLECTORS such as music publisher, artists managers and record companies. If these are needed by artists and songwriters for promotion, they should be paid by the artists after they are paid.</p>
<p>5. Open all records to public view and public scrutiny. The Internet makes it a breeze. In the old system everything is &#8220;confidential&#8221; and we know whose (certainly not the artists and sondwriters) idea is to keep everything secret.</p>
<p>Sure, no one wants to be on the work end of record keeping but that is part of commerce, industry, government, payrolls, etc. Record keeping is far easier and automated today thanever.</p>
<p>Respect for performing musicians-artists and songwriters should make the work unobjectionable.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-354724</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-354724</guid>
		<description>maybe not pushing RIAA music sources down our throats might help too. most people I believe would welcome more avenues to find the music they want to listen to including paid subscriptions but napster and rhapsody are their versions they are still trying to cut out any competition even in music subscriptions. Bertelsmann (BMG) put money into the original napster and I am wondering just how many others have invested in the current version of napster and are in rhapsody behind the scenes since these are the only music services they are promoting as legit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe not pushing RIAA music sources down our throats might help too. most people I believe would welcome more avenues to find the music they want to listen to including paid subscriptions but napster and rhapsody are their versions they are still trying to cut out any competition even in music subscriptions. Bertelsmann (BMG) put money into the original napster and I am wondering just how many others have invested in the current version of napster and are in rhapsody behind the scenes since these are the only music services they are promoting as legit.</p>
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		<title>By: Skymt</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-354680</link>
		<author>Skymt</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15203#comment-354680</guid>
		<description>As the internet enables more and more people to become distributors of their own creations, how will these fees be distributed? Based on play-time on the radio as it is today (at least in Sweden). Some gigantic site that keeps track of all downloads is not a feasible solution either, since they can't track the private copying anyway.

Point is, however they chose to distribute the money this fee collects, it WILL be unfair!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the internet enables more and more people to become distributors of their own creations, how will these fees be distributed? Based on play-time on the radio as it is today (at least in Sweden). Some gigantic site that keeps track of all downloads is not a feasible solution either, since they can&#8217;t track the private copying anyway.</p>
<p>Point is, however they chose to distribute the money this fee collects, it WILL be unfair!</p>
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