Comments on: UK TV hair ad ‘may offend Christians’ http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243 p2pnet.net - reader powered Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:11:09 -0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Skymt http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243/comment-page-1#comment-358422 Skymt Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:55:04 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243#comment-358422 "First, I’m not a big fan of organized religion. It is easy to cite countless horrible events that can be directly attributable to religious actions and beliefs, however, it is also easy to overlook the positive effects religion has on many people’s lives. Those things are mainly on an individual or family basis and are seldom noted in headlines or history. IMHO it is hypocritical to shove the bad parts of religion in people’s faces and not acknowledge the good bits." Yes, I agree. Religion can help people feel better, and help them feel that they belong. But that is one of the PROBLEMS with religion. This help should come from an uncorrupted source (the sience-oriented medicinal practice of psychology feels appropriate). I mean; you can fight wildfire by burning the fields around it. Does this mean that the burned fields are good? I think not! People should be helped to find a place in reality, not in heaven. “First, I’m not a big fan of organized religion. It is easy to cite countless horrible events that can be directly attributable to religious actions and beliefs, however, it is also easy to overlook the positive effects religion has on many people’s lives. Those things are mainly on an individual or family basis and are seldom noted in headlines or history. IMHO it is hypocritical to shove the bad parts of religion in people’s faces and not acknowledge the good bits.”

Yes, I agree. Religion can help people feel better, and help them feel that they belong. But that is one of the PROBLEMS with religion. This help should come from an uncorrupted source (the sience-oriented medicinal practice of psychology feels appropriate).

I mean; you can fight wildfire by burning the fields around it. Does this mean that the burned fields are good? I think not!

People should be helped to find a place in reality, not in heaven.

]]> By: Skymt http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243/comment-page-1#comment-358389 Skymt Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:37:08 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243#comment-358389 "But of course here we see that lovely modern liberal virtue of tolerance, don’t we? Oh, but wait. . .it’s tolerance for everybody but Christians." I tolerate christians. I do NOT tolerate chistians not tolerating others. Do YOU tolerate muslims? "Evolution? That’s a biological process, not a social endeavor. Or maybe you’re talking about the old will-to-power racism? Cool. So you’re a white supremacist?" How do you know I'm white? And where did this become about racism? I thought we were discussing another brain-disease. "What if this commercial had Jewish overtones? Muslim? Hmm. . .???" What if people looked at the commercial and saw a hair-commercial. "Anyway, you clearly haven’t the first idea about the Christian faith or what the Bible says. How about getting firsthand information instead of parroting some nonsense you read on your atheist fansites?" I don't have to know how to drive a truck, to be killed by it. And you can still see it coming towards you. Break out of your romantic little idea about heaven and hell, and look at the world around you. It's a world torn asunder by religious conflict. The american president is starting wars all over, believing he is told so by an imaginary beeing, and the Muslims.. blowing themselves up, instead of furthering the human race. That is revolting. And I have to re-iterate.. How I long for common sense! “But of course here we see that lovely modern liberal virtue of tolerance, don’t we? Oh, but wait. . .it’s tolerance for everybody but Christians.”
I tolerate christians. I do NOT tolerate chistians not tolerating others. Do YOU tolerate muslims?

“Evolution? That’s a biological process, not a social endeavor. Or maybe you’re talking about the old will-to-power racism? Cool. So you’re a white supremacist?”
How do you know I’m white? And where did this become about racism? I thought we were discussing another brain-disease.

“What if this commercial had Jewish overtones? Muslim? Hmm. . .???”
What if people looked at the commercial and saw a hair-commercial.

“Anyway, you clearly haven’t the first idea about the Christian faith or what the Bible says. How about getting firsthand information instead of parroting some nonsense you read on your atheist fansites?”
I don’t have to know how to drive a truck, to be killed by it. And you can still see it coming towards you.
Break out of your romantic little idea about heaven and hell, and look at the world around you. It’s a world torn asunder by religious conflict. The american president is starting wars all over, believing he is told so by an imaginary beeing, and the Muslims.. blowing themselves up, instead of furthering the human race. That is revolting.

And I have to re-iterate.. How I long for common sense!

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243/comment-page-1#comment-358127 Reader's Write Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:38:39 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243#comment-358127 “Atheism has killed more people with its wars than religion ever could.” i believe it has... if they were following their religious views (talking of Christians and what the Christians believe the bible teaches) then they wouldn't have been going off to slaughter innocents for oil, power and wealth 3 main charges usually brought against Christianity: : -crusades - guy in charge uses religion to cover his lust for power and control, thinking hes doing what god wants -church persecution of witches/unbelievers - guy in charge kills anyone who doesn't agree with him (if you think it was just witches killed during the dark ages, i ask you to read foxes book of martyrs, in it contains numerous accounts of Christians being killed by those who used religion as a cover for their deeds) -current bush war- guy in charge uses religion to cover his lust for power and control, thinking hes doing what god wants looking at history it is evident that christianity has often been used as a scapegoat for heinous crimes against humanity, and yet if those fighting the "holy wars" would just look at the religion they're using as a scapegoat, they would see that it actually teaches things somewhat different. “Atheism has killed more people with its wars than religion ever could.”

i believe it has… if they were following their religious views (talking of Christians and what the Christians believe the bible teaches) then they wouldn’t have been going off to slaughter innocents for oil, power and wealth

3 main charges usually brought against Christianity:
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-crusades – guy in charge uses religion to cover his lust for power and control, thinking hes doing what god wants

-church persecution of witches/unbelievers – guy in charge kills anyone who doesn’t agree with him (if you think it was just witches killed during the dark ages, i ask you to read foxes book of martyrs, in it contains numerous accounts of Christians being killed by those who used religion as a cover for their deeds)

-current bush war- guy in charge uses religion to cover his lust for power and control, thinking hes doing what god wants

looking at history it is evident that christianity has often been used as a scapegoat for heinous crimes against humanity, and yet if those fighting the “holy wars” would just look at the religion they’re using as a scapegoat, they would see that it actually teaches things somewhat different.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243/comment-page-1#comment-357902 Reader's Write Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:54:07 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243#comment-357902 "Atheism has killed more people with its wars than religion ever could." You are an idiot. I'm not going to even bother coming up with anything more than that. “Atheism has killed more people with its wars than religion ever could.”

You are an idiot. I’m not going to even bother coming up with anything more than that.

]]> By: Mostly Harmless http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243/comment-page-1#comment-357805 Mostly Harmless Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:11:42 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243#comment-357805 "Religion has done NOTHING for humanity..." . First, I'm not a big fan of organized religion. It is easy to cite countless horrible events that can be directly attributable to religious actions and beliefs, however, it is also easy to overlook the positive effects religion has on many people's lives. Those things are mainly on an individual or family basis and are seldom noted in headlines or history. IMHO it is hypocritical to shove the bad parts of religion in people's faces and not acknowledge the good bits. . . "Anyway, you clearly haven’t the first idea about the Christian faith or what the Bible says." There are a LOT of "Christians" you can say the same thing about... “Religion has done NOTHING for humanity…”
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First, I’m not a big fan of organized religion. It is easy to cite countless horrible events that can be directly attributable to religious actions and beliefs, however, it is also easy to overlook the positive effects religion has on many people’s lives. Those things are mainly on an individual or family basis and are seldom noted in headlines or history. IMHO it is hypocritical to shove the bad parts of religion in people’s faces and not acknowledge the good bits.
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“Anyway, you clearly haven’t the first idea about the Christian faith or what the Bible says.”

There are a LOT of “Christians” you can say the same thing about…

]]> By: Tammo McIllheneny http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243/comment-page-1#comment-357630 Tammo McIllheneny Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:03:04 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243#comment-357630 that topic is debatable. SOme of the biggest wars haven't been over religion (im thinking of the world wars here) But for sheer number of wars, religion is FTW. The Crusades were pretty nasty. that topic is debatable.
SOme of the biggest wars haven’t been over religion (im thinking of the world wars here)
But for sheer number of wars, religion is FTW.
The Crusades were pretty nasty.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243/comment-page-1#comment-357627 Reader's Write Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:45:59 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243#comment-357627 > Atheism has killed more people with its wars than religion ever could. O RLY? All recent wars have religion involved in one way or another, mainly Islam. > Atheism has killed more people with its wars than religion ever could.

O RLY? All recent wars have religion involved in one way or another, mainly Islam.

]]> By: dur. . . http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243/comment-page-1#comment-357578 dur. . . Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:53:58 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243#comment-357578 Atheism has killed more people with its wars than religion ever could. Evolution? That's a biological process, not a social endeavor. Or maybe you're talking about the old will-to-power racism? Cool. So you're a white supremacist? But of course here we see that lovely modern liberal virtue of tolerance, don't we? Oh, but wait. . .it's tolerance for everybody but Christians. What if this commercial had Jewish overtones? Muslim? Hmm. . .??? Anyway, you clearly haven't the first idea about the Christian faith or what the Bible says. How about getting firsthand information instead of parroting some nonsense you read on your atheist fansites? Get a grip and get a clue, pal. Atheism has killed more people with its wars than religion ever could. Evolution? That’s a biological process, not a social endeavor. Or maybe you’re talking about the old will-to-power racism? Cool. So you’re a white supremacist?

But of course here we see that lovely modern liberal virtue of tolerance, don’t we? Oh, but wait. . .it’s tolerance for everybody but Christians.

What if this commercial had Jewish overtones? Muslim? Hmm. . .???

Anyway, you clearly haven’t the first idea about the Christian faith or what the Bible says. How about getting firsthand information instead of parroting some nonsense you read on your atheist fansites?

Get a grip and get a clue, pal.

]]> By: Skymt http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243/comment-page-1#comment-357535 Skymt Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:00:01 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15243#comment-357535 Sheesh! Then let those brain-rot infested morons take offense! What is scary is that these people and their imaginary friends get so much attention. Religion has done NOTHING for humanity and civilization but further it's barbarism and stall it's development (evolution!). When you can be forgiven for anything, the consequences of your actions matters no more. And that is both ludicrous and dangerous! Oh how I long for common sense.. not only in this, but also in the war on drugs, the war on terrorism, the file-sharing debate and everywhere! Or at least that the christians follow their own "holy" book, and turn the other cheek when offended. (I wonder how many wars could have been avoided if they did that...) Ah well.. I'm done ranting! Sheesh! Then let those brain-rot infested morons take offense! What is scary is that these people and their imaginary friends get so much attention.

Religion has done NOTHING for humanity and civilization but further it’s barbarism and stall it’s development (evolution!).

When you can be forgiven for anything, the consequences of your actions matters no more. And that is both ludicrous and dangerous!

Oh how I long for common sense.. not only in this, but also in the war on drugs, the war on terrorism, the file-sharing debate and everywhere!

Or at least that the christians follow their own “holy” book, and turn the other cheek when offended. (I wonder how many wars could have been avoided if they did that…)

Ah well.. I’m done ranting!

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