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		<title>By: Don P</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-375631</link>
		<dc:creator>Don P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 06:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then there&#039;s nudist colonies and beaches that children attend. Plus they take photos at these. It&#039;s ok to stand naked in front of a naked child but a crime worth 10 years jail to look at a photo of him/her. Nudists also share their photos online which is ok. Plus it may be ok to photograph or paint a picture of a naked child if it is called art. Where is the logic in all this? There&#039;s also a large trade in pics of scantily clad young girls which is said to be all legal. Legal, yes; but if you are found with these photos it implicates you as a pedophile, no? Yes. Crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then there&#8217;s nudist colonies and beaches that children attend. Plus they take photos at these. It&#8217;s ok to stand naked in front of a naked child but a crime worth 10 years jail to look at a photo of him/her. Nudists also share their photos online which is ok. Plus it may be ok to photograph or paint a picture of a naked child if it is called art. Where is the logic in all this? There&#8217;s also a large trade in pics of scantily clad young girls which is said to be all legal. Legal, yes; but if you are found with these photos it implicates you as a pedophile, no? Yes. Crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Pickles</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-375623</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Pickles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 06:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took years to find the bottom of this page. I&#039;ve known of murderers who spent less time in jail than for the crime outlined. Meanwhile what happens to the actual perpetrators of these sex crimes, and those who deal in it, film it, and post online? Never hear anything about it. What happens to all those of a certain large religious persuasion who believe it acceptable to rape any girl over 3 years of age? The proof is in their book. Nothing ever done to even prevent it? No. A sad perverse world in need of a complete overhaul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took years to find the bottom of this page. I&#8217;ve known of murderers who spent less time in jail than for the crime outlined. Meanwhile what happens to the actual perpetrators of these sex crimes, and those who deal in it, film it, and post online? Never hear anything about it. What happens to all those of a certain large religious persuasion who believe it acceptable to rape any girl over 3 years of age? The proof is in their book. Nothing ever done to even prevent it? No. A sad perverse world in need of a complete overhaul.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-374590</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>=============COMPLETELY READ THIS ARTICLE AND SPECIFICALLY THE PICTURES==============
http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9899151-38.html

The FBI supplied an affidavit showing that his IP had five different accesses.  He attempted to download a file, refreshed, then tried to download another.  Then... SIX HOURS LATER... he returned to the site and tried to access another file two more times.

This is not a random click, this is not curiosity or a spoofed link, this is blatant interest in illegal material.  The FBI used the logs for this to uncover his identity and get a search warrant issued, there was no spontaneous raid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>=============COMPLETELY READ THIS ARTICLE AND SPECIFICALLY THE PICTURES==============<br />
<a href="http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9899151-38.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9899151-38.html</a></p>
<p>The FBI supplied an affidavit showing that his IP had five different accesses.  He attempted to download a file, refreshed, then tried to download another.  Then&#8230; SIX HOURS LATER&#8230; he returned to the site and tried to access another file two more times.</p>
<p>This is not a random click, this is not curiosity or a spoofed link, this is blatant interest in illegal material.  The FBI used the logs for this to uncover his identity and get a search warrant issued, there was no spontaneous raid.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-372938</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^ Never used &#039;I&#039;m feeling lucky&#039; in my life :)

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^ Never used &#8216;I&#8217;m feeling lucky&#8217; in my life <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-372857</link>
		<dc:creator>Rekrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you do a search for âda.ruâ, Google automatically takes you to that site!!!!! grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&quot;

Only for people stupid enough to use Google&#039;s &quot;I&#039;m feeling lucky&quot; button on the front page. A normal search will never take you directly to a web site. Personally, I always go directly to the advanced search page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you do a search for âda.ruâ, Google automatically takes you to that site!!!!! grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Only for people stupid enough to use Google&#8217;s &#8220;I&#8217;m feeling lucky&#8221; button on the front page. A normal search will never take you directly to a web site. Personally, I always go directly to the advanced search page.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-372313</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that is why they will never find Bin Laden cause they are too busy catching people clicking on hyperlinks.  People always click on things for curiousity.  There are sites that you can report other sites that show child porn and child abuse.  Although those sites do say not to be actively looking for sites to report cause it may be illigal in your area to view.

But I agree with it being entrapment cause if it wasnt there then you wouldnt click it.  I dont know why they botehr setting up sites like that.  There are hundreds if not thousands of sites all ready created with huge numbers of members.  They just need to keep raiding those sites and track down the members of those. Cause they have to pay to join those sites and there credit card numbers and address&#039; are logged in.  Kind of hard to beat that in court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that is why they will never find Bin Laden cause they are too busy catching people clicking on hyperlinks.  People always click on things for curiousity.  There are sites that you can report other sites that show child porn and child abuse.  Although those sites do say not to be actively looking for sites to report cause it may be illigal in your area to view.</p>
<p>But I agree with it being entrapment cause if it wasnt there then you wouldnt click it.  I dont know why they botehr setting up sites like that.  There are hundreds if not thousands of sites all ready created with huge numbers of members.  They just need to keep raiding those sites and track down the members of those. Cause they have to pay to join those sites and there credit card numbers and address&#8217; are logged in.  Kind of hard to beat that in court.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-370958</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote: We donât need no freaking FBI!


AMEN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote: We donât need no freaking FBI!</p>
<p>AMEN</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-370934</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is easier to catch an inocent than a guilty because an innocent has nothing to hide (or so he think!)

This is why they do this. It is the easy way to pretend doing their job as law enforcement.

This FBI guys are lazy and are just Bowlshiting their way arround.

It is like the RIAA pretending to catch file sharer just by having an IP address! What a fraud! And there is judges stupid enought to believe them!

Another exemple is Gatanamo bay. 90% of those locked in Gatanamo are inocent bystander that have nothing to do with ever ElQuada and the Talibans. This is why they torture them. To Fabricate evedences and once again to pretend that they are efficient against El Quada and the Taliban. 

May be this guys is a pedophile but frankly the evidence are rather thin and in this case their is more than reasonable doubt.

I say that if this is the way they keep us safe let fire all these lazy butts and take care of our safety ourself.

We don&#039;t need no freaking FBI!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is easier to catch an inocent than a guilty because an innocent has nothing to hide (or so he think!)</p>
<p>This is why they do this. It is the easy way to pretend doing their job as law enforcement.</p>
<p>This FBI guys are lazy and are just Bowlshiting their way arround.</p>
<p>It is like the RIAA pretending to catch file sharer just by having an IP address! What a fraud! And there is judges stupid enought to believe them!</p>
<p>Another exemple is Gatanamo bay. 90% of those locked in Gatanamo are inocent bystander that have nothing to do with ever ElQuada and the Talibans. This is why they torture them. To Fabricate evedences and once again to pretend that they are efficient against El Quada and the Taliban. </p>
<p>May be this guys is a pedophile but frankly the evidence are rather thin and in this case their is more than reasonable doubt.</p>
<p>I say that if this is the way they keep us safe let fire all these lazy butts and take care of our safety ourself.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need no freaking FBI!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-370928</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hellllloooo, ppl...

7 = USA Country Code 

812  = Washington D.C. Area Code 

578 = US Government Pre-fix

If you do a search for &quot;da.ru&quot;, Google automatically takes you to that site!!!!! grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hellllloooo, ppl&#8230;</p>
<p>7 = USA Country Code </p>
<p>812  = Washington D.C. Area Code </p>
<p>578 = US Government Pre-fix</p>
<p>If you do a search for &#8220;da.ru&#8221;, Google automatically takes you to that site!!!!! grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-370780</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont&#039; know if this has been said before, but what&#039;s worse is that somebody could create a website (ordinary site about something common (and legal) which people would visit daily like a TV show site or something) with a popup that leads directly to the FBI&#039;s honeypot trapping anyone who visits that site when they had absolutely no ill intentions at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont&#8217; know if this has been said before, but what&#8217;s worse is that somebody could create a website (ordinary site about something common (and legal) which people would visit daily like a TV show site or something) with a popup that leads directly to the FBI&#8217;s honeypot trapping anyone who visits that site when they had absolutely no ill intentions at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-370294</link>
		<dc:creator>Rekrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So someone can post these links in a forum and tell people that they can download a game for free and then every poor sucker who clicks on the link will end up in prison because the FBI thinks that they were looking for kiddie porn?

It scares the crap out of me that any judge would allow such a charge to actually go to trial, or that someone could be convicted on nothing more than visiting a web site. How many truly innocent people will have their lives ruined because of others reposting such links?

Also, the fact that someone can be sent to prison for &quot;attempting&quot; to download child pornography is flat out wrong. So much stuff on the net is mis-labelled that probably 90% of adult porn downloaders could be convicted of such a charge for simply downloading the wrong thing by accident.

Greorge Orwell was right; Now we&#039;re prosecuting people for &quot;thought-crime&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So someone can post these links in a forum and tell people that they can download a game for free and then every poor sucker who clicks on the link will end up in prison because the FBI thinks that they were looking for kiddie porn?</p>
<p>It scares the crap out of me that any judge would allow such a charge to actually go to trial, or that someone could be convicted on nothing more than visiting a web site. How many truly innocent people will have their lives ruined because of others reposting such links?</p>
<p>Also, the fact that someone can be sent to prison for &#8220;attempting&#8221; to download child pornography is flat out wrong. So much stuff on the net is mis-labelled that probably 90% of adult porn downloaders could be convicted of such a charge for simply downloading the wrong thing by accident.</p>
<p>Greorge Orwell was right; Now we&#8217;re prosecuting people for &#8220;thought-crime&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-369920</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s about reasonable doubt? GONE?

It is so easy to click on unwanted links! Many spywares and others malwares are actually relying on this!

This is why most of the time my browser is in high security mode. 

Yet how many times did I clicked unintentionally on unwanted advertisements links! 

A couple of time I did opened this way one of these annoying adults porn site that open 10 or 15 windows faster than you can close them until you raised your firewall to block all incoming traffic. This web sites typically try to hack your computer! To prevent unintentional clicking disable the click taping on your touch pad if you have one and try to avoid mices with more than 3 buttons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s about reasonable doubt? GONE?</p>
<p>It is so easy to click on unwanted links! Many spywares and others malwares are actually relying on this!</p>
<p>This is why most of the time my browser is in high security mode. </p>
<p>Yet how many times did I clicked unintentionally on unwanted advertisements links! </p>
<p>A couple of time I did opened this way one of these annoying adults porn site that open 10 or 15 windows faster than you can close them until you raised your firewall to block all incoming traffic. This web sites typically try to hack your computer! To prevent unintentional clicking disable the click taping on your touch pad if you have one and try to avoid mices with more than 3 buttons.</p>
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		<title>By: x</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-369823</link>
		<dc:creator>x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firefox extension needed here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firefox extension needed here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-369782</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;da.ru is a redirect service&quot;

Thanks :)

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;da.ru is a redirect service&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-369719</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything has its benefits. Hints:

* worms infecting unpatched machines and using IE to download stuff
* blacklists of IP addresses of anti-p2p companies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything has its benefits. Hints:</p>
<p>* worms infecting unpatched machines and using IE to download stuff<br />
* blacklists of IP addresses of anti-p2p companies</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-369715</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345#comment-369715</guid>
		<description>da.ru is a redirect service. YOURNAME.da.ru is the redirect they provide and one of them is mentioned in the source article on CNet. da.ru/closed is shown for a redirect that was cancelled for abuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>da.ru is a redirect service. YOURNAME.da.ru is the redirect they provide and one of them is mentioned in the source article on CNet. da.ru/closed is shown for a redirect that was cancelled for abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: TKsM</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-369658</link>
		<dc:creator>TKsM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what happens when people start flinging those links around as jokes on IM services and/or making joke sites with autoredirects to the sting sites .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what happens when people start flinging those links around as jokes on IM services and/or making joke sites with autoredirects to the sting sites &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-369634</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Whoops, I accidentally clicked the wrong thing, my trackball/mousepad isn&#039;t exactly accurate, it isn&#039;t my fault that it went bonkers on me! I&#039;m innocent!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Whoops, I accidentally clicked the wrong thing, my trackball/mousepad isn&#8217;t exactly accurate, it isn&#8217;t my fault that it went bonkers on me! I&#8217;m innocent!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-369531</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it not ironic that we are outraged that Muslims want to kill and maim people for drawing a picture while here in the so-called civilised West we punish somebody for LOOKING at a picture. Worse, there isn&#039;t any picture but since they were ready to look, punish them all the same.

Will a &quot;download this illegal movie&quot; site be the next outrage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it not ironic that we are outraged that Muslims want to kill and maim people for drawing a picture while here in the so-called civilised West we punish somebody for LOOKING at a picture. Worse, there isn&#8217;t any picture but since they were ready to look, punish them all the same.</p>
<p>Will a &#8220;download this illegal movie&#8221; site be the next outrage?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15345/comment-page-1#comment-369503</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s sad. Human curiosity being punished. I&#039;ve always thought that it is wrong to hold a tall glass of water in front of a thirsty person and punish them for grabbing it and taking a drink. Same thing to having undercover cops posing as prostitutes and nailing (no pun intended) the people who drive up and solicit them. Everyone at some time in their life has done something &quot;wrong&quot; and to punish them so severely for a minor faux pas or a moment of weakness is simply wrong.

This is more than ever proof that EVERYONE needs to download and use a Tor (Vidalia) client for all of their web surfing. Then you don&#039;t need to worry about this kind of invasion of privacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s sad. Human curiosity being punished. I&#8217;ve always thought that it is wrong to hold a tall glass of water in front of a thirsty person and punish them for grabbing it and taking a drink. Same thing to having undercover cops posing as prostitutes and nailing (no pun intended) the people who drive up and solicit them. Everyone at some time in their life has done something &#8220;wrong&#8221; and to punish them so severely for a minor faux pas or a moment of weakness is simply wrong.</p>
<p>This is more than ever proof that EVERYONE needs to download and use a Tor (Vidalia) client for all of their web surfing. Then you don&#8217;t need to worry about this kind of invasion of privacy.</p>
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