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		<title>By: XRumerTest</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-824750</link>
		<author>XRumerTest</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-824750</guid>
		<description>Hello. And Bye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello. And Bye.</p>
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		<title>By: A Teksavvy customer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-380330</link>
		<author>A Teksavvy customer</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-380330</guid>
		<description>Here is a copypasta from the e-mail sent to all Teksavvy customers:


Dear Customers,
As many of you may have heard of late, there have been quite a few
activities through Bell that have caused some negative performance on P2P
and BT traffic for us and all other DSL providers in Ontario and Québec.
TekSavvy is committed to fighting this injustice.
For more details on this matter, go to:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/teksavvy for various discussions.

In trying to bring a little bit of both humour and fun to this stressful
week, we sat down and came up with a fun event to hold/get us through this
challenging time!
We'll be setting up a gaming server to be ready for Saturday morning.

Saturday and Sunday will be practice time only, BUT, as of Monday, March
31st, 9AM, until Sunday, April 6th, 5PM, we will hold a TF2 gamers
Challenge!
Lets call it, as a first competition, "Throttle This! Battle at the Big
Barn!". :)

Rules and such are going to follow but, it will be for TSI DSL customers
only and the winner at the end of the week will receive $1,000 for kicking
A$$!
More to come on this...

To follow activities, rules and gaming details, go to
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20242138-Battle-at-the-Big-Barn

Regards,
Rocky</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a copypasta from the e-mail sent to all Teksavvy customers:</p>
<p>Dear Customers,<br />
As many of you may have heard of late, there have been quite a few<br />
activities through Bell that have caused some negative performance on P2P<br />
and BT traffic for us and all other DSL providers in Ontario and Québec.<br />
TekSavvy is committed to fighting this injustice.<br />
For more details on this matter, go to:<br />
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/teksavvy" rel="nofollow">http://www.dslreports.com/forum/teksavvy</a> for various discussions.</p>
<p>In trying to bring a little bit of both humour and fun to this stressful<br />
week, we sat down and came up with a fun event to hold/get us through this<br />
challenging time!<br />
We&#8217;ll be setting up a gaming server to be ready for Saturday morning.</p>
<p>Saturday and Sunday will be practice time only, BUT, as of Monday, March<br />
31st, 9AM, until Sunday, April 6th, 5PM, we will hold a TF2 gamers<br />
Challenge!<br />
Lets call it, as a first competition, &#8220;Throttle This! Battle at the Big<br />
Barn!&#8221;. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Rules and such are going to follow but, it will be for TSI DSL customers<br />
only and the winner at the end of the week will receive $1,000 for kicking<br />
A$$!<br />
More to come on this&#8230;</p>
<p>To follow activities, rules and gaming details, go to<br />
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20242138-Battle-at-the-Big-Barn" rel="nofollow">http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20242138-Battle-at-the-Big-Barn</a></p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Rocky</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379681</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379681</guid>
		<description>I can't resist after Russel's comment 

"The internet is not a big truck .. it's a series of tubes"

And yeh Bell, Rogers, Cogeco, Shaw, all bad, and not just recently. At least canada has secondary DSL providers. secondary cable providers would be good too for those out of the "DSL zone"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t resist after Russel&#8217;s comment </p>
<p>&#8220;The internet is not a big truck .. it&#8217;s a series of tubes&#8221;</p>
<p>And yeh Bell, Rogers, Cogeco, Shaw, all bad, and not just recently. At least canada has secondary DSL providers. secondary cable providers would be good too for those out of the &#8220;DSL zone&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Look out Canada</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379390</link>
		<author>Look out Canada</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379390</guid>
		<description>Its all an American plot to take over your commie left wing country</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its all an American plot to take over your commie left wing country</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379343</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379343</guid>
		<description>Heh Tbear did you get paid for that or are you stupid in addition to being an ass?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh Tbear did you get paid for that or are you stupid in addition to being an ass?</p>
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		<title>By: Jude</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379233</link>
		<author>Jude</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 05:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379233</guid>
		<description>Bell has once again shown it's true colors, it is a selfish, greedy  monster that surely  lies, cheats, steals form it's customers to overcome it's visible poor managemment of internet services, for Bell on it's own is non competetive..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bell has once again shown it&#8217;s true colors, it is a selfish, greedy  monster that surely  lies, cheats, steals form it&#8217;s customers to overcome it&#8217;s visible poor managemment of internet services, for Bell on it&#8217;s own is non competetive..</p>
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		<title>By: Tbear</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379211</link>
		<author>Tbear</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379211</guid>
		<description>Waaah waahh waahh ... I am a poor little money sucking subscriber that expects that the world is free and we owe it to you to continue... With no respect or effort, it is a right...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waaah waahh waahh &#8230; I am a poor little money sucking subscriber that expects that the world is free and we owe it to you to continue&#8230; With no respect or effort, it is a right&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379194</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379194</guid>
		<description>So are there any good reliable alternatives to the larger ISPs???

I was looking up Acanac... they look like a bargain, but I don't know anyone that can vouch for their service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So are there any good reliable alternatives to the larger ISPs???</p>
<p>I was looking up Acanac&#8230; they look like a bargain, but I don&#8217;t know anyone that can vouch for their service.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379190</link>
		<author>mark</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379190</guid>
		<description>Keep complaining to the respective places people. 

We've got to fight this!

Need to keep TekSavvy an awesome company!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep complaining to the respective places people. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve got to fight this!</p>
<p>Need to keep TekSavvy an awesome company!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379173</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379173</guid>
		<description>“The controversial practice, called traffic shaping, is meant to stop illegal downloading through BitTorrent."

Bullshit.  It's about one thing:  Paying for bandwidth.  These telecom companies don't give a shit about what's ethical and what isn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The controversial practice, called traffic shaping, is meant to stop illegal downloading through BitTorrent.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bullshit.  It&#8217;s about one thing:  Paying for bandwidth.  These telecom companies don&#8217;t give a shit about what&#8217;s ethical and what isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379123</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379123</guid>
		<description>this month I was a more generous peer :-P
650:25  	96370 MB  	69127 MB/27243 MB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this month I was a more generous peer <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
650:25  	96370 MB  	69127 MB/27243 MB</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379115</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379115</guid>
		<description>thats hours, total, up, down, connections</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats hours, total, up, down, connections</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379111</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379111</guid>
		<description>60 to 90 gigs?! OMFG
how can someone survive with such a low amount?
my router counted last month:
695:20  	225897 MB  	100182 MB/125715 MB  	37</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>60 to 90 gigs?! OMFG<br />
how can someone survive with such a low amount?<br />
my router counted last month:<br />
695:20  	225897 MB  	100182 MB/125715 MB  	37</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379073</link>
		<author>Rob</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379073</guid>
		<description>Forget Bell, as well as Rogers. Leave them, they are a good ISP if you are grannypants that checks her e-mail and reads horoscopes. Otherwise, they suck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget Bell, as well as Rogers. Leave them, they are a good ISP if you are grannypants that checks her e-mail and reads horoscopes. Otherwise, they suck!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379048</link>
		<author>Frank</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379048</guid>
		<description>These idiots are getting away with whatever they want, I just got a notice from rogers that they are limiting their customers to 60gig or 90gigs (depending on which highspeed you have) of traffic per month.  Between that and network fee's its now getting retarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These idiots are getting away with whatever they want, I just got a notice from rogers that they are limiting their customers to 60gig or 90gigs (depending on which highspeed you have) of traffic per month.  Between that and network fee&#8217;s its now getting retarded.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379017</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-379017</guid>
		<description>ISPs around the world refuse to admit that file sharing is now in the vernacular of internet usage. Rather than embrace this technology, they are trying to restrict it's adoption by suggesting only a minority use it. This specious rhetoric is fast becoming trite; And is driven by their antipathy for infrastructural investment.

We only have to look to the south Korean or Japanese paradigm; they recognise the importance of continual growth and investment in technology. Our ISPs pale in comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ISPs around the world refuse to admit that file sharing is now in the vernacular of internet usage. Rather than embrace this technology, they are trying to restrict it&#8217;s adoption by suggesting only a minority use it. This specious rhetoric is fast becoming trite; And is driven by their antipathy for infrastructural investment.</p>
<p>We only have to look to the south Korean or Japanese paradigm; they recognise the importance of continual growth and investment in technology. Our ISPs pale in comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: TTFD</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-378920</link>
		<author>TTFD</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-378920</guid>
		<description>I work for a video game publisher in Toronto, we distribute our demos and patches through Bit Torrent, completely valid uses, yet we're hampered by the 'blazing' fast speeds of the major ISPs....what a tragic waste of technology</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for a video game publisher in Toronto, we distribute our demos and patches through Bit Torrent, completely valid uses, yet we&#8217;re hampered by the &#8216;blazing&#8217; fast speeds of the major ISPs&#8230;.what a tragic waste of technology</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-378918</link>
		<author>George</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-378918</guid>
		<description>If people are pissed with Bell and their throttling they should be voicing their concerns.  Call customer service, write to Bell, the CRTC, their MP, their MPP, join a facebook group, post on internet forums.  Transfer your services - tell them why; maybe the 3rd party ISPs are throttled but at least they aren't Bell.  We need to come together and quit being so passive with Bell, Rogers and this whole throttling business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people are pissed with Bell and their throttling they should be voicing their concerns.  Call customer service, write to Bell, the CRTC, their MP, their MPP, join a facebook group, post on internet forums.  Transfer your services - tell them why; maybe the 3rd party ISPs are throttled but at least they aren&#8217;t Bell.  We need to come together and quit being so passive with Bell, Rogers and this whole throttling business.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-378901</link>
		<author>Tim</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-378901</guid>
		<description>I have Cogeco and my combined Download and Upload is limited to 60 gigabytes per month for Standard service.  I checked Rogers and Bell Sympatico who, interestingly enough, have the exact same limitation.

Realistically, I do not have a huge issue with a limit on how much "Bandwidth" as 60 gb is almost reasonable.

I do however, have an issue with an effort by these companies to manipulate with what we download.

What really is going on here is that these large companies (Bell, Rogers and Cogeco) want people to purchase Cable TV or Satelite TV to watch the shows and movies.

I for one do not want the TV services that they offer, just an unimpeded Interent connection and I can live with the 60 gb limit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have Cogeco and my combined Download and Upload is limited to 60 gigabytes per month for Standard service.  I checked Rogers and Bell Sympatico who, interestingly enough, have the exact same limitation.</p>
<p>Realistically, I do not have a huge issue with a limit on how much &#8220;Bandwidth&#8221; as 60 gb is almost reasonable.</p>
<p>I do however, have an issue with an effort by these companies to manipulate with what we download.</p>
<p>What really is going on here is that these large companies (Bell, Rogers and Cogeco) want people to purchase Cable TV or Satelite TV to watch the shows and movies.</p>
<p>I for one do not want the TV services that they offer, just an unimpeded Interent connection and I can live with the 60 gb limit.</p>
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		<title>By: Rita Nikas</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-378887</link>
		<author>Rita Nikas</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15418#comment-378887</guid>
		<description>I'm sure glad that Shaw doesn't throttle ... yet.  I'm getting over 600kB/s for Next Great Prime Minister.

I'm pretty sure that Shaw will follow Bell and Rogers soon enough though.

Alas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure glad that Shaw doesn&#8217;t throttle &#8230; yet.  I&#8217;m getting over 600kB/s for Next Great Prime Minister.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that Shaw will follow Bell and Rogers soon enough though.</p>
<p>Alas.</p>
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