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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15431/comment-page-1#comment-383103</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Much of the Internet is being clogged up with stolen goods,” he said at a technology policy conference. “Basically you have a bunch of free riders who are hogging the bandwidth (and taking) it away from legitimate consumers.”

Sure, and speaking of stolen goods.....

As a songwriter heir who and righs holder of copyrights that has never (I swear this is true) been paid any royalries (not a single cent, and the music is very good indeed), why should I care or object if the hundreds pirate recordings (about one half by RIAA member record companies) are moving over the Internet?

Why should RIAA pirates objet to the sharing of their songs if they, along with the music publishers, are themselves the major pirates and royalty thieves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Much of the Internet is being clogged up with stolen goods,” he said at a technology policy conference. “Basically you have a bunch of free riders who are hogging the bandwidth (and taking) it away from legitimate consumers.”</p>
<p>Sure, and speaking of stolen goods&#8230;..</p>
<p>As a songwriter heir who and righs holder of copyrights that has never (I swear this is true) been paid any royalries (not a single cent, and the music is very good indeed), why should I care or object if the hundreds pirate recordings (about one half by RIAA member record companies) are moving over the Internet?</p>
<p>Why should RIAA pirates objet to the sharing of their songs if they, along with the music publishers, are themselves the major pirates and royalty thieves?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15431/comment-page-1#comment-383102</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently only very short posts get throgh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently only very short posts get throgh.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15431/comment-page-1#comment-383100</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Original post did not get through.
Please fix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Original post did not get through.<br />
Please fix.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15431/comment-page-1#comment-381554</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If ISPs &quot;unplugged&quot; file sharers, they&#039;d lose so much money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If ISPs &#8220;unplugged&#8221; file sharers, they&#8217;d lose so much money.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15431/comment-page-1#comment-380347</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone should filter out the peer Guardian blocking list not only on thier client but on their server too. This would effectively shutdown the only interesting part of  internet (the part produced by the people and not the corporations) for the entertainement industry. Let&#039;s do it!

Corporations are the enemies. To save our democracies we have to detroy most corporations , starting with the most outrageous. 

Target number one: Vivendi/Universal.

Once it is destroy we will focus on target number two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone should filter out the peer Guardian blocking list not only on thier client but on their server too. This would effectively shutdown the only interesting part of  internet (the part produced by the people and not the corporations) for the entertainement industry. Let&#8217;s do it!</p>
<p>Corporations are the enemies. To save our democracies we have to detroy most corporations , starting with the most outrageous. </p>
<p>Target number one: Vivendi/Universal.</p>
<p>Once it is destroy we will focus on target number two.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15431/comment-page-1#comment-380340</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations Jon,
You, at least, are beginning to make a big difference for internet freedom.  Your story was quoted in an ongoing court case Lava vs. Amurao at http://www.ilrweb.com/viewILRPDFfull.asp?filename=lava_amurao_080326DeftsReplyMemoDiscovInLimine
thusly:

The issue, moreover, is not of significance only to the parties to this action. It has been raised
in many other cases around the country. “The Massachusetts State police have banned the company,
it’s been accused of operating without a licence in Oregon, Florida, Texas and New York, and
similar charges have been levelled at it in Michigan.” MediaSentry: have you checked your state?,
at http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15391 (last visited March 26, 2008). A judicial declaration in this
state would have significant impact not only on this case but many others.

Keep up the fight for the quiet millions like me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Jon,<br />
You, at least, are beginning to make a big difference for internet freedom.  Your story was quoted in an ongoing court case Lava vs. Amurao at <a href="http://www.ilrweb.com/viewILRPDFfull.asp?filename=lava_amurao_080326DeftsReplyMemoDiscovInLimine" rel="nofollow">http://www.ilrweb.com/viewILRPDFfull.asp?filename=lava_amurao_080326DeftsReplyMemoDiscovInLimine</a><br />
thusly:</p>
<p>The issue, moreover, is not of significance only to the parties to this action. It has been raised<br />
in many other cases around the country. “The Massachusetts State police have banned the company,<br />
it’s been accused of operating without a licence in Oregon, Florida, Texas and New York, and<br />
similar charges have been levelled at it in Michigan.” MediaSentry: have you checked your state?,<br />
at <a href="http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15391" rel="nofollow">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15391</a> (last visited March 26, 2008). A judicial declaration in this<br />
state would have significant impact not only on this case but many others.</p>
<p>Keep up the fight for the quiet millions like me.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15431/comment-page-1#comment-380313</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we need an ISP tax on music.  People who buy music have to pay a mandatory tax to prop up the failing internet industry.  After all, if people are buying music, they&#039;re certainly not downloading.

Anyway, I wonder if people can claim that deep packet inspection is a form of wiretapping?  Hmmm...  Might not fly, but might be fun to try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we need an ISP tax on music.  People who buy music have to pay a mandatory tax to prop up the failing internet industry.  After all, if people are buying music, they&#8217;re certainly not downloading.</p>
<p>Anyway, I wonder if people can claim that deep packet inspection is a form of wiretapping?  Hmmm&#8230;  Might not fly, but might be fun to try.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15431/comment-page-1#comment-380078</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what would happen if an ISP said ok, that they&#039;ll do it, but that they&#039;ll pass the MAFIAA all the associated bills, including the one with the deficit in income from all the people who dump the ISP for another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what would happen if an ISP said ok, that they&#8217;ll do it, but that they&#8217;ll pass the MAFIAA all the associated bills, including the one with the deficit in income from all the people who dump the ISP for another.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15431/comment-page-1#comment-380028</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;More capacity for their paying customers&quot;.

Umm... Can anyone tell me a way to use a company&#039;s network without paying for it? Cause by the way the MAFIAA makes it sound, there are millions of people hacking their internet connection and receiving free internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;More capacity for their paying customers&#8221;.</p>
<p>Umm&#8230; Can anyone tell me a way to use a company&#8217;s network without paying for it? Cause by the way the MAFIAA makes it sound, there are millions of people hacking their internet connection and receiving free internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15431/comment-page-1#comment-380009</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always it is do it for us. Get someone else to pick up the tab for what they want. Notice that you don&#039;t see them offering to pay for the supposed service. 

Canadian ISPs have already found out that doing this network filtering is costing them a bundle. Comcast has in it&#039;s wisdom decided it better return to the old ways of letting through bit torrent or legislation is going to make them do it. With businesses discovering that the reduction in costs is well worth the use of torrents to spread their apps and reduce their costs, the filtering is coming into direct problems with other businesses besides that of what the MPAA and RIAA want done. 

I have yet to hear something on the lines of returning fair use laws to their past stature from the megacorporations. They push their agendas which none of the public wants. That they are not putting up with it as customers is why the music labels have been forced to removed DRM. Movies time is limited before they too will have to face the idea that DRM is an expensive solution that isn&#039;t working, won&#039;t work, and isn&#039;t worth the trouble. Improving the quality, the customer experience, and providing what can not be gotten elsewhere is the only key to their survival in the long term. If they can&#039;t do that, protectionism will not help them to stay afloat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always it is do it for us. Get someone else to pick up the tab for what they want. Notice that you don&#8217;t see them offering to pay for the supposed service. </p>
<p>Canadian ISPs have already found out that doing this network filtering is costing them a bundle. Comcast has in it&#8217;s wisdom decided it better return to the old ways of letting through bit torrent or legislation is going to make them do it. With businesses discovering that the reduction in costs is well worth the use of torrents to spread their apps and reduce their costs, the filtering is coming into direct problems with other businesses besides that of what the MPAA and RIAA want done. </p>
<p>I have yet to hear something on the lines of returning fair use laws to their past stature from the megacorporations. They push their agendas which none of the public wants. That they are not putting up with it as customers is why the music labels have been forced to removed DRM. Movies time is limited before they too will have to face the idea that DRM is an expensive solution that isn&#8217;t working, won&#8217;t work, and isn&#8217;t worth the trouble. Improving the quality, the customer experience, and providing what can not be gotten elsewhere is the only key to their survival in the long term. If they can&#8217;t do that, protectionism will not help them to stay afloat.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15431/comment-page-1#comment-379978</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well
I want the ISP&#039;s to unplug the MPAA and the RIAA from online access.
I don&#039;t think they should have websites, email, porn and online gambling either</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well<br />
I want the ISP&#8217;s to unplug the MPAA and the RIAA from online access.<br />
I don&#8217;t think they should have websites, email, porn and online gambling either</p>
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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15431/comment-page-1#comment-379924</link>
		<dc:creator>Rekrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words, the MPAA wants to avoid the legal costs and the bad PR associated with suing people, and instead make the ISPs look like the bad guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words, the MPAA wants to avoid the legal costs and the bad PR associated with suing people, and instead make the ISPs look like the bad guys.</p>
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