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	<title>Comments on: Net Neutrality? Load of bollocks! Virgin Media</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15604/comment-page-1#comment-970974</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am of the opinion, that this man, can go fuck himself</description>
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		<title>By: A virgin customer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15604/comment-page-1#comment-541891</link>
		<dc:creator>A virgin customer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We.. sh**! I thought I was safe with Virgin

Also, BT customers, Don&#039;t think you are safe, BT use illegal software to watch what you are doing already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We.. sh**! I thought I was safe with Virgin</p>
<p>Also, BT customers, Don&#8217;t think you are safe, BT use illegal software to watch what you are doing already.</p>
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		<title>By: Net leecher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Net leecher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear god.. i knew that it&#039;d come down to this one day.... If Virgin does this on top of their traffic shaping policies, (Bandwitdh is HALVED daily from 430pm to approx 10pm for all net related activities), i will be forced to go back to BT, gawd i never thought i&#039;d say this.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear god.. i knew that it&#8217;d come down to this one day&#8230;. If Virgin does this on top of their traffic shaping policies, (Bandwitdh is HALVED daily from 430pm to approx 10pm for all net related activities), i will be forced to go back to BT, gawd i never thought i&#8217;d say this&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15604/comment-page-1#comment-416637</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If i was competition, I would be extatic over this unbelievably stupid remark!  It would go streight to my marketing department!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If i was competition, I would be extatic over this unbelievably stupid remark!  It would go streight to my marketing department!</p>
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		<title>By: dude</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15604/comment-page-1#comment-415940</link>
		<dc:creator>dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This cannot happen!! If Virgin is allowed to do this, other isp&#039;s will follow suit and the internet as we know will be over, gone, f*ckked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This cannot happen!! If Virgin is allowed to do this, other isp&#8217;s will follow suit and the internet as we know will be over, gone, f*ckked.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15604/comment-page-1#comment-415750</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are all too happy to sign you up, but god forbid you use your full bandwidth potential, lest you suffer the wrath of the FPU (fair use policy / panacea of clauses).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are all too happy to sign you up, but god forbid you use your full bandwidth potential, lest you suffer the wrath of the FPU (fair use policy / panacea of clauses).</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey D. Luffy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15604/comment-page-1#comment-415695</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey D. Luffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another arrogant, asshole CEO announcing he is going to screw people. What a surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another arrogant, asshole CEO announcing he is going to screw people. What a surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15604/comment-page-1#comment-415586</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Search for virgin on recordingindustryvspeople site - it comes TOO often!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Search for virgin on recordingindustryvspeople site &#8211; it comes TOO often!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15604/comment-page-1#comment-415500</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue of p2p draining the b/w is a red herring set up by the corporations to justify a method to increasing income off the same resources. Just out last night was an editorial on this very subject with an interview of Dr. Andrew Odlyzko, one of the top experts of internet traffic usage over at ARS Technica and is still on the front page. 

According to Dr. Odlyzko, the idea of a tsunami of internet traffic isn&#039;t a new idea. It&#039;s one that has been with us, like an urban legend that won&#039;t die, for some time. He sees the problem isn&#039;t with the traffic on the net, that the growth rate has actually slowed down and while the usage b/w is expanding the growth of the net is slowing down. That the main issue isn&#039;t expansion abilities of the communications companies, nor the increasing of the backbone size but rather the last mile connections. Those biggest companies that connect at the last mile are were the problems are. The cost to straighten out the limited amount of traffic over old copper wires and nodes from cable companies is the biggest factor and those corporations are not wanting to invest to cure this. They want to be paid to do it. 

So the red herring is a passable sounding reason to delay until either the customer finances any changes or the government comes along to fill the swill trough with more money. Korea is a far smaller country than the US yet it handles day to day as much internet traffic as the US. Japan, where infrastructure is cheaper to install fiber to the apartment complex is doing just fine. Both of these countries are well known for both their internet usage as well as their high speeds available at cheap prices. Something the US lacks from no competition in the market to the monopolies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue of p2p draining the b/w is a red herring set up by the corporations to justify a method to increasing income off the same resources. Just out last night was an editorial on this very subject with an interview of Dr. Andrew Odlyzko, one of the top experts of internet traffic usage over at ARS Technica and is still on the front page. </p>
<p>According to Dr. Odlyzko, the idea of a tsunami of internet traffic isn&#8217;t a new idea. It&#8217;s one that has been with us, like an urban legend that won&#8217;t die, for some time. He sees the problem isn&#8217;t with the traffic on the net, that the growth rate has actually slowed down and while the usage b/w is expanding the growth of the net is slowing down. That the main issue isn&#8217;t expansion abilities of the communications companies, nor the increasing of the backbone size but rather the last mile connections. Those biggest companies that connect at the last mile are were the problems are. The cost to straighten out the limited amount of traffic over old copper wires and nodes from cable companies is the biggest factor and those corporations are not wanting to invest to cure this. They want to be paid to do it. </p>
<p>So the red herring is a passable sounding reason to delay until either the customer finances any changes or the government comes along to fill the swill trough with more money. Korea is a far smaller country than the US yet it handles day to day as much internet traffic as the US. Japan, where infrastructure is cheaper to install fiber to the apartment complex is doing just fine. Both of these countries are well known for both their internet usage as well as their high speeds available at cheap prices. Something the US lacks from no competition in the market to the monopolies.</p>
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