p2pnet - rss feed: Add your 2 cents to the Bell throttling fight
p2pnet news | Freedom:- If you’ve been following the Bell Canada scandal and thinking you’d like to contribute, now you can, thanks to Marc Bissonnette of Canadian ISP.com.
For the two or three Canadians living in a cave who don’t know what’s been going on, Bell Canada, the country’s largest ISP, has decided to regulate its customers —- whether they like it or not.
It’s called traffic shaping or bandwidth throttling or consumer management, and it’s being imposed because the company claims P2P application users, 5% of the company’s client base, are ruining things for the remaining 95%.
“Primus Telecommunications Canada has just become the third entity to file a letter of support for CAIP (Canadian Association of Internet Providers), which acts for almost 60 smaller providers,” p2pnet said yesterday.
CAIP filed a submission with the CRTC (Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission) demanding Bell Canada be ordered to cease and desist.
CAIP was followed by Vaxination Informatique.
So here’s how you can add your two cents.
1) click on this link - http://support.crtc.gc.ca/crtcsubmissionmu/forms/Telecom.aspx?lang=e
2) Select “Part VII/PN” from the drop-down list
3) Insert CRTC file number # 8622-C51-200805153 into the “Subject” Line, and then —-
4) Tell the CRTC what you think, and why, by posting your comments text into the “Description / Comments / Questions” box:
Or if you’re at a loss for words, you can use this >>>
I am writing to express my support for the Application that CAIP has filed with the CRTC regarding Bell Canada’s throttling practices.
I believe that these practices contravene Bell Canada’s duties as a common carrier and that the Commission should direct Bell to immediately cease and desist from throttling the traffic of independent ISPs.”
The legal test used in CAIP’s filing for the”cease and desist” uses the “RJR-MacDonald test,” says Ottawa Gal, continuing >>>
CAIP must show:
1. The case must demonstrate a serious question to be tried
2. The applicant is required to demonstrate that irreparable harm will result if the relief is not granted.
3. The 3rd and final test must demonstrate a consideration to the public interest/benefit
And that’s where your online Support for the CAIP filing comes in .
The CRTC is making support comments available. Click here.
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April 18th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Has this ISP provided charts of bandwidth usage, and statstics proving their point about p2p traffic hogging bandwidth?
It’s really hard to believe (based on my bandwidth used for p2p applications) that 5% of the customers can really be that much of a load on the system unless that system is horribly overloaded in the first place.
If they are multiplexing too many clients on a small system, then they need to increase the size of their system, or reduce their client load by refusing more customers. This is a classic problem with Cable ISPs. I had to drop my Cable Internet after several years because they put too many customers on my node, reducing my bandwidth to nearly zero.
If I do not get unfettered bandwidth, like my contract specifies, I do business elsewhere.
April 18th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
@Stray Mongrel
1. Nope they are using 2-year old data from another country sampled in the month of april.
2. Or a way to make their internet offering comparable to the competition. Or trying to prevent another mass loss of clients to the competition, hence the reason to throttle them all.
3. Thats assuming there truely IS an internal network problem. So far no proof of this.
4. People calling in to quite their service are being told this is what they have paid for, and Bell wants them to pay 100-200$ to quit.
April 18th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
I find it hard to believe this ISP can possibly see a profitable future.
April 18th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
This isp (sympatico) is also the largest telcom in Canada (Bell).
1. They throttled all the competition
2. they lease the infrastructure to the comeptition (the phone lines access to the Central office and so forth)
3. They filed in court to have the mandated fixed prices that they must lease this at removed.
So if they can control the entire cost of the competition, and throttle all the competition, where does it leave their ISP division sitting?
Bell-Sympatico the throttled ISP who’s service is 50$+ , 60-gig limit (sky-is the limit B/W pricing) VS. the competition who is unthrottled 30-35$, unlimited B/W
This changes to:
Bell-Sympatico the throttled ISP who’s service is 50$+ , 60-gig limit (sky-is the limit B/W pricing) VS. the competition who is throttled by force, unlimited B/W and now priced the same as them or more.
This then free’s up internal B/W to offer IP-TV a new added service!
Bell content for pay VS competition content for free (which they will slow down to 30kB/s)
After they screw all canadians, they will jack their prices up yet again, and can also jack up the prices of the comeptition by force if they win in court.
There are two fronts being fought.
1. The throttling of the competition when they deem fit.
2. Court filing to eliminate the C R T C (like the F C C) fixed cost of what they can charge the competition to wholesale competition.
win-win for Bell, Bell-sympatico, Bells new IP-TV roll out.
The people of Canada WILL have controlled content.
The people of Canada will no longer have the choice to choose an unthrottled service.
The people of Canada will no longer have the choice to choose a 30$ Internet Service Provider.
30$ internet will be a thing of the past very shortly.
Thats if the people don’t start waking up! And many haven’t got a clue.
The mainstream media doesn’t even have a clue. Their technology deficient editors stop the reporting when they can’t understand whats happening (A recent Montreal Gazette reporter even mentioned this). If the editors don’t understand they say the people won’t understand, and remove it. Such is main-stream media.
Control.
Profitable? Hmmm… What comeptition?
April 19th, 2008 at 2:38 am
It seems obvious that Bell needs to be regulated.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Good point about the IP-TV. The person who owns the network has a choice of letting P2P users eat up all the bandwidth for a paltry fixed monthly price, are reducing the the P2P users, and introducing a new service which people are willing to pay for.
May 4th, 2008 at 2:09 am
you can send your comment way easier here: http://stopthethrottler.ca
May 16th, 2008 at 2:52 am
>>The mainstream media doesn’t even have a clue.
or they does not care to take on Bell after all CTV and the Globe &Mail they are part of Bell… speaking of monopolies, and more governmental regulations here they are now needed too.
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