Hillary Clinton — caught on tape
p2pnet news | Politics:- Hilllary Clinton is in trouble. Again. And this time, MoveOn.org has to shoulder a large part of the blame.
That’s the message coming across in Celeste Fremon’s Huffington Post post.
“At a small closed-door fundraiser after Super Tuesday, Sen. Hillary Clinton blamed what she called the ‘activist base’ of the Democratic Party - and MoveOn.org in particular - for many of her electoral defeats, saying activists had ‘flooded’ state caucuses and ‘intimidated’ her supporters,” says an audio featured in the story.
“Moveon.org endorsed [Sen. Barack Obama] — which is like a gusher of money that never seems to slow down,” Clinton says in the tape, going on >>>
We have been less successful in caucuses because it brings out the activist base of the Democratic Party.
MoveOn didn’t even want us to go into Afghanistan. I mean, that’s what we’re dealing with.
And you know they turn out in great numbers.
And they are very driven by their view of our positions, and it’s primarily national security and foreign policy that drives them.
I don’t agree with them. They know I don’t agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who actually show up to support me.
But, “Senator Clinton has her facts wrong again,” MoveOn executive director Eli Pariser told the Huffington Post, continuing:
“MoveOn never opposed the war in Afghanistan, and we set the record straight years ago when Karl Rove made the same claim.
“Senator Clinton’s attack on our members is divisive at a time when Democrats will soon need to unify to beat Senator McCain. MoveOn is 3.2 million reliable voters and volunteers who are an important part of any winning Democratic coalition in November. They deserve better than to be dismissed using Republican talking points.”
Clinton’s statement, “disparaging the prominence of party activists in the caucus process,” comes after she, “repeatedly suggested that Obama’s electability had been compromised because he had allegedly offended other key Democratic constituencies,” says the story.
MoveOn.org Political Action is a, “federal PAC, formerly known as MoveOn PAC, mobilizes people across the country to fight important battles in Congress and help elect candidates who reflect our values,” it says, launching a petition centered on this week’s ABC “abysmal” presidential debate.
Huffington Post - Clinton Slams Democratic Activists At Private Fundraiser, April 18, 2008
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April 19th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Parents should monitor their kids online behavior.
Would be nice to see the previous 4 posts deleted.
April 20th, 2008 at 12:42 am
A nice feature would be one to have a rep button and after a post hits so many negative rep hits it gets put into a review mode, which would minimize the post so all the users see is the entry unless clicked upon, that Jon can look at so we don’t have to see crap like this stay on a page. This would also allow Jon to put post back into the page if the rep points hit the negative limit but it is actually a legitimate post. This would be the result of people like the first poster hitting negative rep over and over. Could have it so the same IP cant hit it more than once or have the post reinstated after a number of positive hits.
April 20th, 2008 at 7:50 am
I really hope the Democrats don’t give up the whitehouse by having the party insiders make Hillary their nomination. While Obama has the support from people across the US political spectrum, and from young people who otherwise feel disenfranchised, Hillary really only has strong Democrats who are going to vote Democrat no matter who the nomination is.
If I thought she was electable in November I would be worried, as she is the worst of the 3 candidates on technology policy issue such as copyright and the Internet.
April 20th, 2008 at 9:14 am
@ Stray Mongrel Says
Sadly, I’m not online 24/7. But I trash these kinds of posts when I log on, which is usually around 3:00 in the morning.
Cheers!
April 20th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
The problem is that we need more than the support of democrats for Obama to win. We need also the Independants votes and at least some republicain vote. The president should represent a vast majority of American. In this regard Clinton is better fitted because she is more to the center than Obama. Obama is a novelty and it is hard to know how well he will do compare to Clinton.
After the extensive damage done by Bush to this contry we can not afford a so so presindent. We need a great president and to me it is still hard to know which of the two will be the best.
And as far as Mc Cain is concerned I have a lot of respect for this great man however I am not going to take risk with another republicain candidate after the Bush disaster.
April 21st, 2008 at 7:21 pm
wow, every other thing she does in the election digs a hole. And everything Obama says, they try to make a hole out of.
How many ‘miss-statements’ and ‘miss-speaks’ can one election hold?
Were gonna need some shovels before november.
¡uoods
April 22nd, 2008 at 6:13 am
” The problem is that we need more than the support of democrats for Obama to win. We need also the Independants votes and at least some republicain vote. ”
Obama has this, Hillary doesn’t.
No amount of pretending will change this.
” The president should represent a vast majority of American. ”
I believe, as do many others, that he does.
No amount of denying will change this.
” In this regard Clinton is better fitted because she is more to the center than Obama. ”
Center, left, right ..etc..
All simply labels designed to oversimplify that which CAN’T be simplified.
How many times does Hillary have to lie before supporters that say stuff like this
realize … She will say anything she needs to to win this, regardless if she actually believes
it, or supports it.
” Obama is a novelty and it is hard to know how well he will do compare to Clinton. ”
Really ?
What makes him a ‘novelty’ ?
The fact that he is the first black man to run for president ?
Does this make him more of a novelty than the first woman to run ?
Or is it the fact that he talks to the american people like they are adults ?
That he speaks as though he thinks we are smart enough to handle truths we
may not like ?
This is pretty novel I guess.
More novel than the ‘lie no matter what’ style that Hillary uses, which follows the
old way of doing things, almost to a T.
I guess Barrack IS novel, and Hilary is more of the same old stuff.
Unfortunately, for Hillary that is, the way all of her follishness backfires on her proves
that many of us are tired of the same old stuff.
“Obama is a novelty and it is hard to know how well he will do compare to Clinton. ”
Easy to know, actually, since most of those independent voters of which you speak
have decided to vote Democrat, BECAUSE of Obama.
A large majority of those who have not voted at all in that last 2 elections of of disgust
and ‘bitterness’ toward our political gaming system are coming out en mass to vote
for Obama.
It’s very easy to see how well he will do, no matter how one tries to rationalize away the facts.
” After the extensive damage done by Bush to this contry we can not afford a so so presindent. ”
Now that something true.
We also don’t need more of the same, disguised in a Democrat wrapper, such as
Hilary.
” We need a great president and to me it is still hard to know which of the two will be the best. ”
Also easy.
Not just by their easy to locate on the internet stances on REAL issues, but by watching how
they conduct their politics.
Not hard at all. Really.