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		<title>By: Dirty Dirty Bell Sympatico &#171; Missing the point?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirty Dirty Bell Sympatico &#171; Missing the point?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Paul Kambulow Says: May 16th, 2008 at 2:32 am [...]</description>
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		<title>By: thenonconformer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15671/comment-page-1#comment-588103</link>
		<dc:creator>thenonconformer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of false partiality the Canadian federal government itself  has left the internet unregulated..  at least in part only.. we know that child molesters, child pornography on internet in Canada can be and are often rightfully prosecuted, and that some internet bullies are now being rightfully prosecuted by some provincial human rights commissions, even by some of the courts for slander, abuse  now too.. but not all of the the  human rights, verbal abusers even now too, and  the internet service providers who lie, are clearly now guilty of being abusive, falsely restrictive, censorship, privacy invasions, guilty false misleading advertising, restrictive business practices, bait and switch approach are not and this is unacceptable, a falsely discriminatory practice  now still always too and needs to be fully dealt with too.

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/13/misapplications-of-the-laws-in-canada/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of false partiality the Canadian federal government itself  has left the internet unregulated..  at least in part only.. we know that child molesters, child pornography on internet in Canada can be and are often rightfully prosecuted, and that some internet bullies are now being rightfully prosecuted by some provincial human rights commissions, even by some of the courts for slander, abuse  now too.. but not all of the the  human rights, verbal abusers even now too, and  the internet service providers who lie, are clearly now guilty of being abusive, falsely restrictive, censorship, privacy invasions, guilty false misleading advertising, restrictive business practices, bait and switch approach are not and this is unacceptable, a falsely discriminatory practice  now still always too and needs to be fully dealt with too.</p>
<p><a href="http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/13/misapplications-of-the-laws-in-canada/" rel="nofollow">http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/13/misapplications-of-the-laws-in-canada/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kambulow</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15671/comment-page-1#comment-520043</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Kambulow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have openly rightfully shared with the Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper&#039;s office that Bell Sympatico undeniably is one of the most dirty, immoral, abusive Corporation, firm I have dealt in Canada  in my lifetime. One that even falsely   suppressed my complaints against it, my right of free speech as well. 
 
Because Bell Sympatico has UNACCEPTABLY TOO often HAD breached my ISP contractual agreement  and  NEXT Bell Sympatico had forcibly falsely disconnected my ISP service with them too thus next  I have been forced to switch over to the Canadian   www.acanac.ca/  -Residential High Speed ADSL without any Limits and  No Blocked Ports or Traffic Shapping, plus Unlimited Downloading 100 GB of Online Storage Up to 5 Mbps Download and 800 Kbps Upload  $18.95 per month  This offer is available on a 1 year term and the first year of service. www.acanac.ca/Webhosting.html Call Tel:  1-866-281-3538 ,  1-416-849-8520 On top of that I repeatedly do ask why Bell is now so expensive in comparisons to it&#039;s competitor that uses the same TROUBLED EVEN Bell internet lines..
 
I also find it really hypocritical, how basically unfair, totally unacceptable, one sided  too it still is that that Bell Sympatico very loudly still demands full payments for their supposed services from all of their customers, when they Bell Sympatico clearly too often and unacceptably Bell Sympatico  did not meet it contractual obligations to many of it&#039;s customers, even when Bell Sympatico have not only provided a very poor, inadequate, incomplete  services to many of their net customers, but in the process Bell Sympatico had also lied to, and had abused their customers. 
 
It is undeniably also  that rather than initially honestly admitting the truth in Canada that Bell Sympatico lacked their advertised capabilities to provide adequate ISP, actually  high speed internet services. Bell Sympatico when confronted with their failure to deliver the speeds as promsied to it&#039;s cusomers had instead resorted to misleading statements, and lying to too many of the customers. Bell Sympatico  had abused them further by falsely and lying in Canada diverting the blame on the customers own equipment, local connections, and the customer&#039;s operating software as well. And finally when confronted by technical knowledgeable, competent persons with the undeniable proof that Bell Sympatico had been guilty of false, misleading business practices, Bell Sympatico next tries to screw the customers some more by Bell Sympatico trying next to charge them extra monies for the services they Bell Sympatico had promised long time ago to start of with too and had not delivered, their high speed downloads sites and adequate support services now too.. You can readily check your actual downloads speeds at http://2wire.com/bandwidth/ or many other similar sites too. Such witnessed by even me immoral acts, behaviors by Bell Sympatico has never been denied back to me and is never acceptable now still too and Bell needs to be fully regulated by the federal Consumer Affairs Ministers, even confronted, punished appropriately by the justice ministers as well for it&#039;s much too many unacceptable bad, immoral acts too.
 
Bell Sympatico now even  wants an extra payment of 75 dollars if I do not return ASAP their high speed modem as soon as possible, conveniently forgetting that they themselves had wrongfully had breached my ISP contract, and also that they had falsely refused to refund me for an  overcharge of an  extra 55 dollars, to me for this  high speed modem that I had never even requested from Bell Sympatico in the first place, and they too easily seem to forget that  fact they Bell Sympatico had falsely also now tried 4 times to withdraw, steal my  money from my bank account even during the time I as supposed to have  free 6 months high speed unlimited internet as well. An agreement they too had falsely breached now.
 
Now Bell Sympatico&#039;s executive care  Sasha Rollins had  complained to me in writing 3 times back that in the last 18 months I have written 280 letters of rightful complaints to Bell about their inadequate, pretentious, services, even their false breach of their contract obligations. Me I am even next still even rightfully complaining to Bell Sympatico now that I had even firstly to to write any of these 280 letters of complaints to Bell Sympatico, and I as a direct result do even rightfully still do demand full payment of 2500 dollars from Bell Sympatico NOW  for all my wasted time in even having now to do so now as well, plus further payment for the many years I had paid for a high speed internet services but never got one from Bell Sympatico as well. And I rightfully still expect this rightful  2500 dollars payment to me now from Bell Sympatico ASAP AS WELL , and  so also  NEXT  I too will demand an extra 250 dollars in payment  if they do not pay me my 2500 dollars COMPENSATION as soon as possible.
 
And so the Circus with Bell Sympatico continues..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have openly rightfully shared with the Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper&#8217;s office that Bell Sympatico undeniably is one of the most dirty, immoral, abusive Corporation, firm I have dealt in Canada  in my lifetime. One that even falsely   suppressed my complaints against it, my right of free speech as well. </p>
<p>Because Bell Sympatico has UNACCEPTABLY TOO often HAD breached my ISP contractual agreement  and  NEXT Bell Sympatico had forcibly falsely disconnected my ISP service with them too thus next  I have been forced to switch over to the Canadian   <a href="http://www.acanac.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://www.acanac.ca/</a>  -Residential High Speed ADSL without any Limits and  No Blocked Ports or Traffic Shapping, plus Unlimited Downloading 100 GB of Online Storage Up to 5 Mbps Download and 800 Kbps Upload  $18.95 per month  This offer is available on a 1 year term and the first year of service. <a href="http://www.acanac.ca/Webhosting.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.acanac.ca/Webhosting.html</a> Call Tel:  1-866-281-3538 ,  1-416-849-8520 On top of that I repeatedly do ask why Bell is now so expensive in comparisons to it&#8217;s competitor that uses the same TROUBLED EVEN Bell internet lines..</p>
<p>I also find it really hypocritical, how basically unfair, totally unacceptable, one sided  too it still is that that Bell Sympatico very loudly still demands full payments for their supposed services from all of their customers, when they Bell Sympatico clearly too often and unacceptably Bell Sympatico  did not meet it contractual obligations to many of it&#8217;s customers, even when Bell Sympatico have not only provided a very poor, inadequate, incomplete  services to many of their net customers, but in the process Bell Sympatico had also lied to, and had abused their customers. </p>
<p>It is undeniably also  that rather than initially honestly admitting the truth in Canada that Bell Sympatico lacked their advertised capabilities to provide adequate ISP, actually  high speed internet services. Bell Sympatico when confronted with their failure to deliver the speeds as promsied to it&#8217;s cusomers had instead resorted to misleading statements, and lying to too many of the customers. Bell Sympatico  had abused them further by falsely and lying in Canada diverting the blame on the customers own equipment, local connections, and the customer&#8217;s operating software as well. And finally when confronted by technical knowledgeable, competent persons with the undeniable proof that Bell Sympatico had been guilty of false, misleading business practices, Bell Sympatico next tries to screw the customers some more by Bell Sympatico trying next to charge them extra monies for the services they Bell Sympatico had promised long time ago to start of with too and had not delivered, their high speed downloads sites and adequate support services now too.. You can readily check your actual downloads speeds at <a href="http://2wire.com/bandwidth/" rel="nofollow">http://2wire.com/bandwidth/</a> or many other similar sites too. Such witnessed by even me immoral acts, behaviors by Bell Sympatico has never been denied back to me and is never acceptable now still too and Bell needs to be fully regulated by the federal Consumer Affairs Ministers, even confronted, punished appropriately by the justice ministers as well for it&#8217;s much too many unacceptable bad, immoral acts too.</p>
<p>Bell Sympatico now even  wants an extra payment of 75 dollars if I do not return ASAP their high speed modem as soon as possible, conveniently forgetting that they themselves had wrongfully had breached my ISP contract, and also that they had falsely refused to refund me for an  overcharge of an  extra 55 dollars, to me for this  high speed modem that I had never even requested from Bell Sympatico in the first place, and they too easily seem to forget that  fact they Bell Sympatico had falsely also now tried 4 times to withdraw, steal my  money from my bank account even during the time I as supposed to have  free 6 months high speed unlimited internet as well. An agreement they too had falsely breached now.</p>
<p>Now Bell Sympatico&#8217;s executive care  Sasha Rollins had  complained to me in writing 3 times back that in the last 18 months I have written 280 letters of rightful complaints to Bell about their inadequate, pretentious, services, even their false breach of their contract obligations. Me I am even next still even rightfully complaining to Bell Sympatico now that I had even firstly to to write any of these 280 letters of complaints to Bell Sympatico, and I as a direct result do even rightfully still do demand full payment of 2500 dollars from Bell Sympatico NOW  for all my wasted time in even having now to do so now as well, plus further payment for the many years I had paid for a high speed internet services but never got one from Bell Sympatico as well. And I rightfully still expect this rightful  2500 dollars payment to me now from Bell Sympatico ASAP AS WELL , and  so also  NEXT  I too will demand an extra 250 dollars in payment  if they do not pay me my 2500 dollars COMPENSATION as soon as possible.</p>
<p>And so the Circus with Bell Sympatico continues..</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kambulow</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15671/comment-page-1#comment-470018</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Kambulow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 08:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;the latest customer service mail out today from Bell: “Download movies at warp speed. Nothing is more important than speed when it comes to downloading movies and music. Don’t let viruses, Trojans and worms slow down your computer. We have tips to put your PC in overdrive.” as if it were viruses, Trojans and worms who were slowing down music and movie downloads…

not only is this  a typical Bell misdirection, another false Bell diversion but it is a misleading Bell ploy merely to earn more money by selling more of Bell  services, for Bell  they really do care about the customer&#039;s best interest firstly but only their own... as we Bell customers all seem to know firsthand too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;the latest customer service mail out today from Bell: “Download movies at warp speed. Nothing is more important than speed when it comes to downloading movies and music. Don’t let viruses, Trojans and worms slow down your computer. We have tips to put your PC in overdrive.” as if it were viruses, Trojans and worms who were slowing down music and movie downloads…</p>
<p>not only is this  a typical Bell misdirection, another false Bell diversion but it is a misleading Bell ploy merely to earn more money by selling more of Bell  services, for Bell  they really do care about the customer&#8217;s best interest firstly but only their own&#8230; as we Bell customers all seem to know firsthand too.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kambulow</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15671/comment-page-1#comment-470012</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Kambulow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 08:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has also been decades of my own experiences in rightfully complain about unacceptable negatives that still a written letter sent to the right party works best, a letter sent to the the people who have the power to make changes, and that includes all of the news editors  and the elected representatives too, for  that public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons serves everyone&#039;s best interest. I am a prolific writer who has now for decades written a wide range of social, moral, political  issues  but I too  was surprised as to how much attention comparatively the the Bell posts  are getting now. But for some reasons Bell  still is not getting enough attention by the government..  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com

My Blog&#039;s most common Search Words used related to Bell Sympatico

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My own Most Active Blog Posts, Issues

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has also been decades of my own experiences in rightfully complain about unacceptable negatives that still a written letter sent to the right party works best, a letter sent to the the people who have the power to make changes, and that includes all of the news editors  and the elected representatives too, for  that public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons serves everyone&#8217;s best interest. I am a prolific writer who has now for decades written a wide range of social, moral, political  issues  but I too  was surprised as to how much attention comparatively the the Bell posts  are getting now. But for some reasons Bell  still is not getting enough attention by the government..  <a href="http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com</a></p>
<p>My Blog&#8217;s most common Search Words used related to Bell Sympatico</p>
<p>bell sympatico compliants<br />
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basic contract terms<br />
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bell sympatico complaints website<br />
bell &#8220;unlimited internet usage plans&#8221;<br />
rogers high speed internet complaints<br />
sympatico complain customer department<br />
sympatico internet total disadvantages<br />
bell throttling between 4pm<br />
high speed internet bell bad quality<br />
too many connections to server</p>
<p>My own Most Active Blog Posts, Issues</p>
<p>Basic Contract law,<br />
Bell Sympatico,<br />
CHRISTIAN &amp; MISSIONARY ALLIANCE,</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15671/comment-page-1#comment-448944</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 22:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the latest customer service mailout today from Bell:

&quot;Download movies at warp speed.
Nothing is more important than speed when it comes to downloading movies and music. Don&#039;t let viruses, Trojans and worms slow down your computer. We have tips to put your PC in overdrive.&quot;

as if it were viruses, trojans and worms who were slowing down music and movie downloads...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the latest customer service mailout today from Bell:</p>
<p>&#8220;Download movies at warp speed.<br />
Nothing is more important than speed when it comes to downloading movies and music. Don&#8217;t let viruses, Trojans and worms slow down your computer. We have tips to put your PC in overdrive.&#8221;</p>
<p>as if it were viruses, trojans and worms who were slowing down music and movie downloads&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ottawa Gal</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15671/comment-page-1#comment-431791</link>
		<dc:creator>Ottawa Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I read that also and did a small article on it and gave it to Jon.

It &quot;should&quot; be up tomorrow (the 25th)...if he likes it! Sometimes Jon tosses them back to me and tells me to redo everything in 10-minutes to make his deadlines  :(  poor me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I read that also and did a small article on it and gave it to Jon.</p>
<p>It &#8220;should&#8221; be up tomorrow (the 25th)&#8230;if he likes it! Sometimes Jon tosses them back to me and tells me to redo everything in 10-minutes to make his deadlines  <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   poor me</p>
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		<title>By: Sikakoira</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15671/comment-page-1#comment-430437</link>
		<dc:creator>Sikakoira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could find the contact info on these pages since I can&#039;t find a story about something quite yet. It seems that Bell is stretching the truth a bit more than we thought about why traffic shaping is supposedly needed.

http://gigaom.com/2008/04/22/shocking-new-facts-about-p2p-and-broadband-usage/
Here&#039;s an interview of Arbor Networks CTO Danny McPherson. Arbor Networks makes network management and traffic shaping tools for the ISPs so he has interesting data on bandwidth usage.

According to his interview, only 20 percent of traffic is P2P applications. During peak-load times, 70 percent of subscribers use http while 20 percent are using P2P. Http still makes up the majority of the total traffic, of which 45 percent is traditional web content that includes text and images. Streaming video and audio content from services like YouTube accounts for nearly 50 percent of the http traffic.

That would mean, from a traffic shaping point of view it&#039;s not even a that useful to bug p2p users since most of the lag is caused by youtube and it&#039;s cousins - and Bell certainly has these statistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could find the contact info on these pages since I can&#8217;t find a story about something quite yet. It seems that Bell is stretching the truth a bit more than we thought about why traffic shaping is supposedly needed.</p>
<p><a href="http://gigaom.com/2008/04/22/shocking-new-facts-about-p2p-and-broadband-usage/" rel="nofollow">http://gigaom.com/2008/04/22/shocking-new-facts-about-p2p-and-broadband-usage/</a><br />
Here&#8217;s an interview of Arbor Networks CTO Danny McPherson. Arbor Networks makes network management and traffic shaping tools for the ISPs so he has interesting data on bandwidth usage.</p>
<p>According to his interview, only 20 percent of traffic is P2P applications. During peak-load times, 70 percent of subscribers use http while 20 percent are using P2P. Http still makes up the majority of the total traffic, of which 45 percent is traditional web content that includes text and images. Streaming video and audio content from services like YouTube accounts for nearly 50 percent of the http traffic.</p>
<p>That would mean, from a traffic shaping point of view it&#8217;s not even a that useful to bug p2p users since most of the lag is caused by youtube and it&#8217;s cousins &#8211; and Bell certainly has these statistics.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15671/comment-page-1#comment-424561</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m going to tell Henry about this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m going to tell Henry about this</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15671/comment-page-1#comment-424229</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^ &#039;Add your 2 cents to the Bell throttling fight &#039; - http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15659</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^ &#8216;Add your 2 cents to the Bell throttling fight &#8216; &#8211; <a href="http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15659" rel="nofollow">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15659</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bell User</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15671/comment-page-1#comment-424213</link>
		<dc:creator>Bell User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would very much like the opportunity to sign myself as an Ex-Bell User but there is no alternative in this area except for dial-up.  And that is why the bastards feel free to abuse us. The only real option for this i-addict is to get onboard with the protests and sign the petitions. Sadly, at this point, even the government won&#039;t listen.  Oy Canada!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would very much like the opportunity to sign myself as an Ex-Bell User but there is no alternative in this area except for dial-up.  And that is why the bastards feel free to abuse us. The only real option for this i-addict is to get onboard with the protests and sign the petitions. Sadly, at this point, even the government won&#8217;t listen.  Oy Canada!</p>
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		<title>By: Ex-Bell User</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15671/comment-page-1#comment-423388</link>
		<dc:creator>Ex-Bell User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s quite a collection Jon. Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s quite a collection Jon. Well done.</p>
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