Comments on: ISP traffic shapping — and bafflegab http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15679 p2pnet.net offers not-your-lamescream news on movies music digital media P2P peer-to-peer TV television file sharing freedom of speech open source product news Wifi mobiles company Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:30:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Joeyjojo http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15679#comment-427600 Joeyjojo Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:04:09 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15679#comment-427600 The "bandwidth hogs" as Bell calls them are their best customers. Internet Max costs $100/month with 100gig up and down and $1/gig over that. If someone wants to keep their P2P up 24/7, they'll pay for it. The fact that all this money isn't enough to increase bandwidth makes me think there's more to the ISPs decision than they're leading on. Traffic shaping is collective punishment. If someone wants to burn through 500gig/month they should pay for it. The “bandwidth hogs” as Bell calls them are their best customers. Internet Max costs $100/month with 100gig up and down and $1/gig over that. If someone wants to keep their P2P up 24/7, they’ll pay for it. The fact that all this money isn’t enough to increase bandwidth makes me think there’s more to the ISPs decision than they’re leading on. Traffic shaping is collective punishment. If someone wants to burn through 500gig/month they should pay for it.

]]> By: Dan http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15679#comment-427466 Dan Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:27:05 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15679#comment-427466 If you're just checking email, what do you need bandwidth for? Basically, we've hit the video age on the internet. If it starts at BT, then what? Streaming video? Hey it MIGHT be pirated, better throw that to the slow lane! VOIP? Hey it MIGHT be copyrighted audio using the protocol, better throttle that too. Japan needs a bigger backbone if it's not enough. Get with the times. If you’re just checking email, what do you need bandwidth for? Basically, we’ve hit the video age on the internet. If it starts at BT, then what? Streaming video? Hey it MIGHT be pirated, better throw that to the slow lane! VOIP? Hey it MIGHT be copyrighted audio using the protocol, better throttle that too.

Japan needs a bigger backbone if it’s not enough. Get with the times.

]]> By: Jake http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15679#comment-426920 Jake Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:51:07 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15679#comment-426920 Net neutrality is a load of bullocks. If P2P applications run wild they chew up all the bandwidth and everything slows down. Take for example, Japan, which does not perform traffic shaping and P2P uses up to 95% of network bandwidth. Japan runs a 500 Gbps backbone with FTTH (Fiber To The Home) so you would think there would be adequate bandwidth for everybody on the network, but there is not, so... where is the net neutrality in that? Net neutrality is a load of bullocks. The video posted on this page... http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15679 ... does not provide any factual information, no statistics regarding reductions in bandwidth, or how much bandwidth is generally used. Unless any facts can be presented as they would need to be in a court of law, there is no case here, only hype and he said / she said Net neutrality is a load of bullocks. If P2P applications run wild they chew up all the bandwidth and everything slows down. Take for example, Japan, which does not perform traffic shaping and P2P uses up to 95% of network bandwidth. Japan runs a 500 Gbps backbone with FTTH (Fiber To The Home) so you would think there would be adequate bandwidth for everybody on the network, but there is not, so… where is the net neutrality in that? Net neutrality is a load of bullocks.

The video posted on this page…

http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15679

… does not provide any factual information, no statistics regarding reductions in bandwidth, or how much bandwidth is generally used. Unless any facts can be presented as they would need to be in a court of law, there is no case here, only hype and he said / she said

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