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p2pnet news | Off Topic:- Nadia Kajouji, 18, studying at Carleton University in Ottawa and who disappeared from her room on March 9, may have killed herself after talking to a suicidal American woman online, say news reports.
Her body was found along the Rideau River on Sunday.
“Police told the family that Ms. Kajouji was seen wandering the halls, threatening to cut herself with razor blades,” says the Globe and Mail, going on that she’d been taking anti-depressants.
Earlier this month, a “suicidal woman” who chatted online with Kajouji urged her to kill herself on the same day she disappeared, her father told a press conference, says MetroNews.
Mohamad Kajouji said police delivered up to 20 pages of online correspondence including a March 9 MSN Messenger exchange between his daughter and the woman who, “encouraged (Nadia) to take her own life,” says the story, going on to quote him as saying:
“She seemed to know a lot about suicide, ropes and guns. She spent the whole day talking to my daughter.”
The girl’s family say they’re angry the university, “didn’t tell them the young woman was depressed and receiving counselling before her disappearance on March 9,” saysa the Globe and Mail, adding:
“But Suzanne Blanchard, associate vice-president of student support services, said that the university would do so only if students consent to have counsellors speak with their parents about health issues. ‘We reviewed all the different protocols. We really feel that the university did everything it could to support Nadia’,” she said.
More than 2,000 people had signed a Facebook group in her memory by late yesterday afternoon. The picture is from there.
“The body found in the river, “has been positively identified as Nadia Kajouji, who was reported missing on March 9, 2008,” says an Ottawa Police statement.
“Preliminary post mortem results indicate that no foul play was involved in her death.”
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Globe and Mail - School should have told us of teen’s depression, family says, April 23, 2008
MetroNews - Ominous Net chat surfaces, April 8, 2008
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April 24th, 2008 at 6:53 am
so where were all those 2000 persons when that young woman needed one to talk too!
She was obviously in the ambivalentic phase positivly trying to get the human support she needed so much by doing this openly talking about killing herself!
It’s a myth that people who talk about it will not do it!
They are jsut only in the 3rd phase of suicide before they become calm and relaxxed because they already have decided to do it and are therefor seemingly “ok again” for their peers
Those people that activly talk about killing themself will do it eventually too if they don’t get the support while they are still in the ambivalentic phase where their mind is battleing with those contending feelings!
Obviously those 2000 signers either did not know enough about those phases of suicidality and how to do adequate intervention or they simply did not care about this young woman before she killed herself!
It’s a real pity!
A_F
April 25th, 2008 at 11:46 am
zomg another megan.
April 25th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
It can be hard to keep going after realizing how the world really works. The more sheltered the life, the harder it can be. Sadly, some people can live their whole lives without having this epiphany.
April 25th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
What could be the circumstances for which she suicide. Study and boyfriend breakage are not the only results. Does’nt seem that american woman forced her to comit suicide. If she can pur her real circumstances, 1 out of above 2000 can advices her to commit suicide.
April 27th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Its a very confusing thing, the important thing to remember with all of this is that those 2000 people were there for her to talk to, but we do not know the context in which she was talking about hurting herself. Even with that, who’s to say that college students are at all equipped to deal effectively with a trouble person who is their age in their stressful situation. In Universities, suicide rates sky rocket between March and May. I also must add that the globe and mail was the only paper that cited that incident, and its possible that it is misinterpreted based on the information that she was seeing a counsellor and mentioned hurting herself. Who knows? Really though, its not worth pointing blame.
And yes, many people who commit suicide say it with intent to people around them, but still 40 percent do not. It’s always better to er on the side of caution, but and 18 year old dorm mate may not know what to do, and may even been in the same situation and unable to provide alternative support. As far as the counselling staff go, shame on them for not fulfilling their duty to warn those involved in the risk of harm.