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	<title>Comments on: DRM is coming back, says RIAA</title>
	<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874</link>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-495876</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 10:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-495876</guid>
		<description>Dave, I cannot let you back in &#62;:-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I cannot let you back in &gt;:-D</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-495873</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 10:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-495873</guid>
		<description>haha suckers. Couldn't kill mp3 could ya? Not a hope in hell. Too bad ya can't add yer drm crap to that eh? Dream on ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha suckers. Couldn&#8217;t kill mp3 could ya? Not a hope in hell. Too bad ya can&#8217;t add yer drm crap to that eh? Dream on &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-495867</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 10:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-495867</guid>
		<description>Talk about flogging a dead horse. Ah well, let them wallow in their miserable ignorance if it keeps them out of p2p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about flogging a dead horse. Ah well, let them wallow in their miserable ignorance if it keeps them out of p2p</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-462480</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 04:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-462480</guid>
		<description>johnnyg0 

Where have you been? They lisence you to listen to it on a single format, but don't share, lend, or play it so others can hear it. That's against the law.  Then when either the format wears out (record. tape, cd) or they decide to turn off the authorization system (every type of DRM'd formats out there) they expect, no demand that you repurchase it. It's the law, or will be when they are done purchasing said law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>johnnyg0 </p>
<p>Where have you been? They lisence you to listen to it on a single format, but don&#8217;t share, lend, or play it so others can hear it. That&#8217;s against the law.  Then when either the format wears out (record. tape, cd) or they decide to turn off the authorization system (every type of DRM&#8217;d formats out there) they expect, no demand that you repurchase it. It&#8217;s the law, or will be when they are done purchasing said law.</p>
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		<title>By: johnnyg0</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-458017</link>
		<author>johnnyg0</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 12:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-458017</guid>
		<description>So.. the RIAA does not want to sell music anymore I understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So.. the RIAA does not want to sell music anymore I understand?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457857</link>
		<author>Christopher</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 10:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457857</guid>
		<description>Well, let's face it: they want DRM because, as someone on Arstechnica told me, they want you to pay numerous times for numerous formats for numerous players. Once for your phone as a ringtone, once for your mp3 player, once for your computer, etc etc etc.

DRM needs to go the way of the dodo and it needs to be made illegal, period and done with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let&#8217;s face it: they want DRM because, as someone on Arstechnica told me, they want you to pay numerous times for numerous formats for numerous players. Once for your phone as a ringtone, once for your mp3 player, once for your computer, etc etc etc.</p>
<p>DRM needs to go the way of the dodo and it needs to be made illegal, period and done with.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457616</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 06:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457616</guid>
		<description>Too late, Dave. Now that everyone knows of your nefarious plot to enforce DRM, we'll notice it harder than ever before. Nice way to shoot yourself in the foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too late, Dave. Now that everyone knows of your nefarious plot to enforce DRM, we&#8217;ll notice it harder than ever before. Nice way to shoot yourself in the foot.</p>
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		<title>By: Kame</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457605</link>
		<author>Kame</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 06:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457605</guid>
		<description>I cannot let you do that, Dave.

:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot let you do that, Dave.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457318</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457318</guid>
		<description>These people are morons for bringing back this DRM bullshit and not following Nine Inch Nails' example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people are morons for bringing back this DRM bullshit and not following Nine Inch Nails&#8217; example.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457189</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457189</guid>
		<description>MP3, that's the ticket. Kids are better educated these days, so sorry [not]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MP3, that&#8217;s the ticket. Kids are better educated these days, so sorry [not]</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457183</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457183</guid>
		<description>You can beat me up with DRM all you want but I still won't buy it.

This guy looks really sincere huh? BTW has he heard of ties?

^ Reduce prices (a nightmare)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can beat me up with DRM all you want but I still won&#8217;t buy it.</p>
<p>This guy looks really sincere huh? BTW has he heard of ties?</p>
<p>^ Reduce prices (a nightmare)</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457152</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457152</guid>
		<description>Subscription service. I would rather stick red hot pins in my eyes. Another stupid idea, just reduce your f**king prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subscription service. I would rather stick red hot pins in my eyes. Another stupid idea, just reduce your f**king prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457100</link>
		<author>Dreddsnik</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 00:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-457100</guid>
		<description>" “If you make the hassle factor high enough, people will pay.” 

 I hate to sound like a broken record, but AllofMP3 proved that the opposite
 was true.

 Remove all the hassle, and make the price fair, and people will pay, because
 they DO want to support the artists.

 The RIAA sued the right model out of existence.
 They didn't want the proof that they are full of shit to exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; “If you make the hassle factor high enough, people will pay.” </p>
<p> I hate to sound like a broken record, but AllofMP3 proved that the opposite<br />
 was true.</p>
<p> Remove all the hassle, and make the price fair, and people will pay, because<br />
 they DO want to support the artists.</p>
<p> The RIAA sued the right model out of existence.<br />
 They didn&#8217;t want the proof that they are full of shit to exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Mostly Harmless</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-456857</link>
		<author>Mostly Harmless</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 22:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-456857</guid>
		<description>“If you make the hassle factor high enough, people will pay.” WRONG

If you make the hassle factor high enough, people will look elsewhere for their music

IMHO if you simply give people what they want (good music) in a form that lets them us it in the ways they want to (without DRM infection) enough people will pay to make the music business a reasonably profitable enterprise. The kicker there is "reasonably profitable". There will never be enough money to satisfy the greedy a-holes we are talking about. And that's really THE problem, and not just with the music biz...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“If you make the hassle factor high enough, people will pay.” WRONG</p>
<p>If you make the hassle factor high enough, people will look elsewhere for their music</p>
<p>IMHO if you simply give people what they want (good music) in a form that lets them us it in the ways they want to (without DRM infection) enough people will pay to make the music business a reasonably profitable enterprise. The kicker there is &#8220;reasonably profitable&#8221;. There will never be enough money to satisfy the greedy a-holes we are talking about. And that&#8217;s really THE problem, and not just with the music biz&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-456777</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-456777</guid>
		<description>It doesn't matter how inconvenient it is.  All it takes is one person to rip it, and release it as an mp3, and all there DRM is meaningless.

If people can't do what they want with the music they buy, then they will probably stop buying and go back online to get the "good version".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter how inconvenient it is.  All it takes is one person to rip it, and release it as an mp3, and all there DRM is meaningless.</p>
<p>If people can&#8217;t do what they want with the music they buy, then they will probably stop buying and go back online to get the &#8220;good version&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: myname</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-456757</link>
		<author>myname</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-456757</guid>
		<description>If people are stupid enough to pay for DRM, then they deserve exactly what they get. 'nuff said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people are stupid enough to pay for DRM, then they deserve exactly what they get. &#8217;nuff said!</p>
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		<title>By: g-money</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-456717</link>
		<author>g-money</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-456717</guid>
		<description>DRM is laughable to me. People are getting smarter and finding more and more ways to beat the system. Everybody at least knows someone with limewire. I remember I tried to rip the first velvet revolver cd from my friend and then burn a copy before i had an mp3 player, and I had my first contact with a DRM protected CD. With a little research on the web, I figured out that there are programs that record your pc's audio output in real-time - I downloaded the program, played &#38; recorded each track and voila! my own homemade DRM-free mp3's. DRM won't stop anyone with the will and enough intelligence from circumventing it. Now if I want something I'll just do a google search and download to my ears' content. I don't even need p2p programs to do it, it's all out there on the internet. The people DRM is capable of stopping are probably not the people who are trying to get music illegally. So imo, it is a collosal waste of time and money. Whoever is going to pirate will pirate, and whoever is going to pay will pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DRM is laughable to me. People are getting smarter and finding more and more ways to beat the system. Everybody at least knows someone with limewire. I remember I tried to rip the first velvet revolver cd from my friend and then burn a copy before i had an mp3 player, and I had my first contact with a DRM protected CD. With a little research on the web, I figured out that there are programs that record your pc&#8217;s audio output in real-time - I downloaded the program, played &amp; recorded each track and voila! my own homemade DRM-free mp3&#8217;s. DRM won&#8217;t stop anyone with the will and enough intelligence from circumventing it. Now if I want something I&#8217;ll just do a google search and download to my ears&#8217; content. I don&#8217;t even need p2p programs to do it, it&#8217;s all out there on the internet. The people DRM is capable of stopping are probably not the people who are trying to get music illegally. So imo, it is a collosal waste of time and money. Whoever is going to pirate will pirate, and whoever is going to pay will pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey D. Luffy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-456711</link>
		<author>Monkey D. Luffy</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-456711</guid>
		<description>I haven't seen any evidence of "kinder gentler" DRM. Most of the DRM scams seem to have some kind of repeat "phone home" component, which means you are screwed the moment the company that sold you that software(or "licensed it's use" as they put it) shuts down their servers, unless they decide to release a patch to no longer require the software to check in to work, which is very unlikely. Even paying customers would be advised to dl some kind of crack to get rid of this turd. Please note I'm NOT referring to a rental service, that is a different animal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen any evidence of &#8220;kinder gentler&#8221; DRM. Most of the DRM scams seem to have some kind of repeat &#8220;phone home&#8221; component, which means you are screwed the moment the company that sold you that software(or &#8220;licensed it&#8217;s use&#8221; as they put it) shuts down their servers, unless they decide to release a patch to no longer require the software to check in to work, which is very unlikely. Even paying customers would be advised to dl some kind of crack to get rid of this turd. Please note I&#8217;m NOT referring to a rental service, that is a different animal.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-456658</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-456658</guid>
		<description>Forget DRM. You will not sell me the first DRMed file. For my lifestyle, I refuse to accept DRM as part of the package. So that means I won't buy these "things". Why buy DRMed files that reward you will a hassle factor for your time and money, when you can go download it without having to deal with this crap?

Something the industry has not figured out yet. Give the customer what s/he wants, the way they want it, or lose out on the sales. Rental is not in the picture. Not today, not tomorrow. If the only were rental or nothing; I'll pick nothing and keep my money. Simply it is not worth it. Paying a month subscription, which the corporations drool over, isn't gonna happen. Not when at the first sign of the idea of a change, the corporations selling DRM will close shop locking you out of the use of your purchase. 

If and when I spend money on a product it is mine to do with as I see fit. If it isn't that way, then no money is leaving my pocket for it. Get over the idea of lock out is where it is at, isn't going to happen when it comes to paying for something. 

No matter how much the majors want to sell it their way, the product is only worth what the customer will pay for it. I don't see anything worth paying for in this sort of package and here's the kicker. I'm not the only one that sees it this way. 

Wonder why they had to drop DRM from their sales packages in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget DRM. You will not sell me the first DRMed file. For my lifestyle, I refuse to accept DRM as part of the package. So that means I won&#8217;t buy these &#8220;things&#8221;. Why buy DRMed files that reward you will a hassle factor for your time and money, when you can go download it without having to deal with this crap?</p>
<p>Something the industry has not figured out yet. Give the customer what s/he wants, the way they want it, or lose out on the sales. Rental is not in the picture. Not today, not tomorrow. If the only were rental or nothing; I&#8217;ll pick nothing and keep my money. Simply it is not worth it. Paying a month subscription, which the corporations drool over, isn&#8217;t gonna happen. Not when at the first sign of the idea of a change, the corporations selling DRM will close shop locking you out of the use of your purchase. </p>
<p>If and when I spend money on a product it is mine to do with as I see fit. If it isn&#8217;t that way, then no money is leaving my pocket for it. Get over the idea of lock out is where it is at, isn&#8217;t going to happen when it comes to paying for something. </p>
<p>No matter how much the majors want to sell it their way, the product is only worth what the customer will pay for it. I don&#8217;t see anything worth paying for in this sort of package and here&#8217;s the kicker. I&#8217;m not the only one that sees it this way. </p>
<p>Wonder why they had to drop DRM from their sales packages in the first place?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-456637</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15874#comment-456637</guid>
		<description>That thing with the MS customers you mention ? I will NEVER forget that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That thing with the MS customers you mention ? I will NEVER forget that.</p>
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