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		<title>By: UNHAPPY EBAY SELLER</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15906/comment-page-1#comment-613600</link>
		<dc:creator>UNHAPPY EBAY SELLER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s obvious we do not live in a perfect world.  It never was and it never will be. There will always be the 
honest majority and the ones that are not. We also have laws in the land that punish the ones that steal from
 others without punishing the honest that do no wrong.
 
      With regards to the EBAY COMMUNITY, the vast majority of sellers and buyers have always been honest,
 while the smaller portion of dishonest sellers have been either thrown off Ebay while the dishonest buyers have 
caused a great financial loss to the sellers with their fraud, damage of merchandise , paypal chargebacks, causing  uncalled for locked out paypal accounts, overdrafts , Ebay Suspensions, financial stress and much more causing good honest sellers
 to leave Ebay Community do to NO FAULT of their own other than agreeing to allowing the 180 reverse charge
 option  which  destoyed their  Ebay business.

      In the past,  Honest Ebay Sellers had the option  of selecting a safe form of payment for their value of 
merchandise exchanged which was really the American Way.  They could select the form of payment that they
 were comfortable excepting which gave them GUARANTEED IMMEDIATE FUNDS with no future unpleasant
 suprises. Money that was relied upon for sellers and their families  to: pay bills, raise a family,go on vacation,
save for the future or just go out and buy something else e.t.a.l.   That WAS truely the American Way and the
 Ebay Community offered this oppurtunity to the public. Perfect examples include: Postal Money Orders which are
 guaranteed immediate funds to the seller in exchange for immediate shipping to the buyer with no hold time for
 funds to become available. Another example would be a simple personal check that once it cleared the bank the 
item was then safe to ship with fund in hand. For Overseas and in the States there is always the safe bank
 transfer option. These options mentioned above are especially desirable for larger ticket items over $100.00 and 
up.  Paypal and Credit Card payments are only desireable for speed and convenience with smaller ticket (LOWER
RISK) items because the chargeback option on them are easily absorbable and not as likely several months down
 the road. Besides, The scammers won&#039;t hit the sellers on the little transactions, only on the substantially larger 
big ticket items. Also in times like this where money is tighter ,people think twice about what they just bought,
rescently bought that they realize that they either got their use out of it, desided they really didn&#039;t need, money 
right now is more important than keeping it just to name a few examples. Given the temptation and opportunity
 to charge back an item for 6 months (180) days from purchase, unfortunately many good honest upfront sellers
 get stung on this example in the most unfair manner.

..............................................NOT ANYMORE.....STOP......LOOK.....LISTEN.........................................................
.

    EBAY staff is now telling us sellers that we MUST OFFER THE OPTION FOR ALL BUYERS TO EXCHANGE OUR
   VALUED MERCHANDISE FOR a 6 MONTH BUYER OPTION !    YES... You know what that means? No GUARANTEE 
   OF PAYMENT WITHOUT REVERSED CHARGES FOR 180 DAYS FROM DATE OF PURCHASE. This option gives the
   buyer all kinds of time  for excuses as to why he or she doesn&#039;t want the item anymore. On any large ticket
   item this could be disasterous results. NOW, WHERE DID AMERICAN WAY GO  ?...GONE BYE BYE.....................


.........................................................MORE NEW EBAY POLICY .....................................................................
                       

   ABSOLUTELY NO MORE IMMEDIATE EXCHANGE OF VALUED  MERCHANDISE FOR U.S. DENOMINATION FUNDS. 
   When that large chargeback appears somewhere within the 180 days from purchase and the money is already
   by that time spent. IT&#039;S ALL OVER and the EBAY/ PAYPAL system will have literally destroyed your&#039;s and your
   families life with absolutely no remorse whatsoever. Ebay&#039;s track record has proven time and time again that 
   they really don&#039;t care whats in the best interest of the Ebay Seller&#039;s . They feel that there will always be enough 
   sellers and their additude is like the boss that tells you if you don&#039;t like it you can leave and don&#039;&#039;t let the door
   hit you in the ass on the way out.
.......................................You&#039;ve all heard the old saying, &quot;if it ain&#039;t broken, don&#039;t fix it&quot;....................................
.......................................I get the feeling EBAY just modified that phrase to something like this........................
.......................................&quot;IF IT AIN&#039;T BROKEN , KEEP SMACKING IT ARROUND REAL.......................................
........................................GOOD SO YOU KNOW THAT IT TRUELY IS BROKEN THIS TIME &quot;................................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s obvious we do not live in a perfect world.  It never was and it never will be. There will always be the<br />
honest majority and the ones that are not. We also have laws in the land that punish the ones that steal from<br />
 others without punishing the honest that do no wrong.</p>
<p>      With regards to the EBAY COMMUNITY, the vast majority of sellers and buyers have always been honest,<br />
 while the smaller portion of dishonest sellers have been either thrown off Ebay while the dishonest buyers have<br />
caused a great financial loss to the sellers with their fraud, damage of merchandise , paypal chargebacks, causing  uncalled for locked out paypal accounts, overdrafts , Ebay Suspensions, financial stress and much more causing good honest sellers<br />
 to leave Ebay Community do to NO FAULT of their own other than agreeing to allowing the 180 reverse charge<br />
 option  which  destoyed their  Ebay business.</p>
<p>      In the past,  Honest Ebay Sellers had the option  of selecting a safe form of payment for their value of<br />
merchandise exchanged which was really the American Way.  They could select the form of payment that they<br />
 were comfortable excepting which gave them GUARANTEED IMMEDIATE FUNDS with no future unpleasant<br />
 suprises. Money that was relied upon for sellers and their families  to: pay bills, raise a family,go on vacation,<br />
save for the future or just go out and buy something else e.t.a.l.   That WAS truely the American Way and the<br />
 Ebay Community offered this oppurtunity to the public. Perfect examples include: Postal Money Orders which are<br />
 guaranteed immediate funds to the seller in exchange for immediate shipping to the buyer with no hold time for<br />
 funds to become available. Another example would be a simple personal check that once it cleared the bank the<br />
item was then safe to ship with fund in hand. For Overseas and in the States there is always the safe bank<br />
 transfer option. These options mentioned above are especially desirable for larger ticket items over $100.00 and<br />
up.  Paypal and Credit Card payments are only desireable for speed and convenience with smaller ticket (LOWER<br />
RISK) items because the chargeback option on them are easily absorbable and not as likely several months down<br />
 the road. Besides, The scammers won&#8217;t hit the sellers on the little transactions, only on the substantially larger<br />
big ticket items. Also in times like this where money is tighter ,people think twice about what they just bought,<br />
rescently bought that they realize that they either got their use out of it, desided they really didn&#8217;t need, money<br />
right now is more important than keeping it just to name a few examples. Given the temptation and opportunity<br />
 to charge back an item for 6 months (180) days from purchase, unfortunately many good honest upfront sellers<br />
 get stung on this example in the most unfair manner.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.NOT ANYMORE&#8230;..STOP&#8230;&#8230;LOOK&#8230;..LISTEN&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
.</p>
<p>    EBAY staff is now telling us sellers that we MUST OFFER THE OPTION FOR ALL BUYERS TO EXCHANGE OUR<br />
   VALUED MERCHANDISE FOR a 6 MONTH BUYER OPTION !    YES&#8230; You know what that means? No GUARANTEE<br />
   OF PAYMENT WITHOUT REVERSED CHARGES FOR 180 DAYS FROM DATE OF PURCHASE. This option gives the<br />
   buyer all kinds of time  for excuses as to why he or she doesn&#8217;t want the item anymore. On any large ticket<br />
   item this could be disasterous results. NOW, WHERE DID AMERICAN WAY GO  ?&#8230;GONE BYE BYE&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;MORE NEW EBAY POLICY &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>   ABSOLUTELY NO MORE IMMEDIATE EXCHANGE OF VALUED  MERCHANDISE FOR U.S. DENOMINATION FUNDS.<br />
   When that large chargeback appears somewhere within the 180 days from purchase and the money is already<br />
   by that time spent. IT&#8217;S ALL OVER and the EBAY/ PAYPAL system will have literally destroyed your&#8217;s and your<br />
   families life with absolutely no remorse whatsoever. Ebay&#8217;s track record has proven time and time again that<br />
   they really don&#8217;t care whats in the best interest of the Ebay Seller&#8217;s . They feel that there will always be enough<br />
   sellers and their additude is like the boss that tells you if you don&#8217;t like it you can leave and don&#8221;t let the door<br />
   hit you in the ass on the way out.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;You&#8217;ve all heard the old saying, &#8220;if it ain&#8217;t broken, don&#8217;t fix it&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I get the feeling EBAY just modified that phrase to something like this&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;IF IT AIN&#8217;T BROKEN , KEEP SMACKING IT ARROUND REAL&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.GOOD SO YOU KNOW THAT IT TRUELY IS BROKEN THIS TIME &#8220;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: UNHAPPY EBAY SELLER</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15906/comment-page-1#comment-610239</link>
		<dc:creator>UNHAPPY EBAY SELLER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a reputable Ebay Seller, I personnaly don&#039;t like the Idea of shipping an expencive Item to a buyer knowing that anytime within 180 days, (6 months) the buyer can dispute the item for whatever reason even after he or she damaged it themselves and contact their credit card company and have the charge reversed by credit card policy. If it&#039;s thru a paypal account, they will lock you out .
    With this new policy of requiring either paypal or merchant account, sellers have absolutely no protection or guaranteed funds for 6 months on items that were sold in good faith and in as described condition.
               I wonder how Ebay, greedbay,feebay, whatever would feel about sellers posting in their listings that customers that purchase items over $100.00 thru paypal or credit card will have to wait till the funds are guaranteed prior to shipping item. In the case of a Postal Money Order it is guaranteed immediate funds which entitles buyer to immediate shipping with no hold time. Personal checks are OK but they must clear the bank prior to shipping. All Paypal and credit card purchases will have  guaranteed funds in 180 days or 6 months. If they choose to use the later plan, the item will be shipped in 180 days for the sellers protection. I would believe that most buyers would then get the picture as well as ___BAY !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a reputable Ebay Seller, I personnaly don&#8217;t like the Idea of shipping an expencive Item to a buyer knowing that anytime within 180 days, (6 months) the buyer can dispute the item for whatever reason even after he or she damaged it themselves and contact their credit card company and have the charge reversed by credit card policy. If it&#8217;s thru a paypal account, they will lock you out .<br />
    With this new policy of requiring either paypal or merchant account, sellers have absolutely no protection or guaranteed funds for 6 months on items that were sold in good faith and in as described condition.<br />
               I wonder how Ebay, greedbay,feebay, whatever would feel about sellers posting in their listings that customers that purchase items over $100.00 thru paypal or credit card will have to wait till the funds are guaranteed prior to shipping item. In the case of a Postal Money Order it is guaranteed immediate funds which entitles buyer to immediate shipping with no hold time. Personal checks are OK but they must clear the bank prior to shipping. All Paypal and credit card purchases will have  guaranteed funds in 180 days or 6 months. If they choose to use the later plan, the item will be shipped in 180 days for the sellers protection. I would believe that most buyers would then get the picture as well as ___BAY !</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15906/comment-page-1#comment-506357</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know i will not be using ebay any more, who do they think they are changing these rules.  I don&#039;t have a credit card and don&#039;t want to sign up for Pay pal so good by Ebay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know i will not be using ebay any more, who do they think they are changing these rules.  I don&#8217;t have a credit card and don&#8217;t want to sign up for Pay pal so good by Ebay</p>
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		<title>By: Bigears</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15906/comment-page-1#comment-464891</link>
		<dc:creator>Bigears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife ebays a lot and asked me to find her some alternatives to ebay in Oz.
http://www.oztion.com.au/ looks like the big winner. http://www.auctionia.com.au/ seems smaller.

Looks like a diversification is coming. Next step aggregators. Google must be very happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife ebays a lot and asked me to find her some alternatives to ebay in Oz.<br />
<a href="http://www.oztion.com.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.oztion.com.au/</a> looks like the big winner. <a href="http://www.auctionia.com.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.auctionia.com.au/</a> seems smaller.</p>
<p>Looks like a diversification is coming. Next step aggregators. Google must be very happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15906/comment-page-1#comment-464587</link>
		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 08:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To see how much eBay and it&#039;s subsidiary actually takes out of your wallet (out of your total profit), see this new online eBay + PayPal calculator. 

http://pheebay.com/1/?eBayALTERNATIVESPheeCalculator

The calculator works for all English speaking countries AU, US, UK, CA, NZ.

It could also help show why eBay is mandating Australians to use it&#039;s 100% owned subsidiary PayPal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To see how much eBay and it&#8217;s subsidiary actually takes out of your wallet (out of your total profit), see this new online eBay + PayPal calculator. </p>
<p><a href="http://pheebay.com/1/?eBayALTERNATIVESPheeCalculator" rel="nofollow">http://pheebay.com/1/?eBayALTERNATIVESPheeCalculator</a></p>
<p>The calculator works for all English speaking countries AU, US, UK, CA, NZ.</p>
<p>It could also help show why eBay is mandating Australians to use it&#8217;s 100% owned subsidiary PayPal.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15906/comment-page-1#comment-464004</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 22:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would be interesting to know what serious alternatives ebay&#039;s have? can anyone think of a alternative online auction site in the US, Australia or UK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would be interesting to know what serious alternatives ebay&#8217;s have? can anyone think of a alternative online auction site in the US, Australia or UK?</p>
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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15906/comment-page-1#comment-463511</link>
		<dc:creator>Rekrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope eBay gets kicked in the metaphorical nuts over this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope eBay gets kicked in the metaphorical nuts over this.</p>
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