Comments on: Sandvine — branded

By: Jon

Jon — Sat, 24 May 2008 20:46:02 +0000

^^ “The Streisand effect is a phenomen on on the Internet where an attempt to censor or remove a piece of information backfires, causing the information to be widely publicized. Examples are attempts to censor a photograph, a file, or even a whole website, especially by means of cease-and-desist letters. Instead of being suppressed, the information sometimes quickly receives extensive publicity, often being widely mirrored across the Internet …….” — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Cheers!

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 24 May 2008 19:30:41 +0000

Sandvine (so sue me, I infringed), meet Streisand Effect.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 24 May 2008 16:54:45 +0000

There is no future for IP traffic fliter and DRM stuff because the market will not support it.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 24 May 2008 16:47:19 +0000

Sandvine is a crapy company!
Opps infringement!

Sandvine suck!
Opps another infrigement!

Sandvine make your interent conection way slower.
Ohh! No! another infringement!

Sandvine make your servers crawls.

Sandvine is easy to hake!

Infringement! Infringement!

Sandvine is managed by a pack of low life morons!

Another infrigement?

Boycott Sandevine

Man! Infringement!

With Sandvine, for a fortune, you can bring your IP service to a crawl!
Infrigement again!

With Sandvine why make it simple and fast when you can make it slow and complicated!
Final Infrigement for NOW!

Take that Sandvine!

Oops I did it again!

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 24 May 2008 14:42:14 +0000

” As far as I know, the NEW ISP I will have does not use stupid sandvine! ”

As far as you KNOW.
That’s one of many reasons net neutrality must be protected.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 24 May 2008 07:32:41 +0000

I hope they go completely out of business for what they have done as far as throttling is concerned. But I am getting rid of comcast completely in a few weeks, so I really don’t care.

As far as I know, the NEW ISP I will have does not use stupid sandvine!

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 24 May 2008 07:20:41 +0000

correction: They (Bell) were listed as a customer.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 24 May 2008 07:02:23 +0000

I think i recall Bell being an investor in sandvine…. not sure though, will have to look into this.

By: Andy

Andy — Sat, 24 May 2008 02:00:34 +0000

Sandvine’s stock chart is encouraging. It can be viewed here:
http://investdb.theglobeandmail.com/invest/investSQL/gx.show_chart?iaction=Generate&pl_period=12D&pl_primary_listing=SVC-T
Although there may be some resistance to falling through the $1.00 level for psychological reasons, the company is well on the way to becoming worthless. Who knows - when they get round to launching the suit against you, you may be able to respond with a takeover bid, funded by your Miley Spears ad revenue.

By: Robb Topolski

Robb Topolski — Sat, 24 May 2008 00:05:18 +0000

The first time I looked at Jon’s parody, I failed to hit on the joke. I don’t know — maybe I’ve been involved in this whole RST-forgery debate for too long already. It took a second look to see what the hubbub was about.

In DPI-land, words like ‘consumer control’ and ‘restrictions’ are product features that are touted proudly — not said in “air quotes” with a wink and a smile. It wouldn’t surprise me if the pinheads in Ontario didn’t get the joke, either.

But this is the Internet, and Sandvine was caught performing a Man-in-the-Middle attack against its users. Users don’t take kindly to stuff like that. Sandvine can continue to try to resurrect a market for something that is clearly a detriment to Internet users, or it can refocus on things it ought to be doing — selling the technology above the table.

I admire what they’ve done here. TCP forgery is so tough, to do it in any substantial way as to redirect traffic (much more involved than their RST injection ever was) in VOLUME deserves some kind of applause. But it doesn’t belong on a free and open Internet. It needs to be on a private network helping companies keep from leaking data, helping multi-national corporations reroute intranets internally to avoid locale-based congestion, figuring out a DPI way to make ad-supported muni-wifi a winner instead of a repeat loser, or making non-internet IP networks pay off (like their Sandvine’s wireless gear seems to offer).

If I were them, I’d change their name. There’s a reason that Zango doesn’t call itself 180Solutions anymore. And the lesson I’d learn from this is “if an ISP wants us to keep their purchase a secret, run away.”

PS: …and don’t get me started about the word “management.”

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 23 May 2008 23:29:19 +0000

Well not all news is always good news. Matters not if it is a product, a company, or an idea. It’s not odd in these days of hearing of some corp getting its feathers ruffled when news of its doings gets out into public. I would be willing to bet if there were a way, not only would the logo be demanded removed but any mention of the business with negative contents. It seems to be the way of all major corps now to try and hide all their doings if it looks the least bit in negative light. The net neutrality issue puts this corp right in the spotlight as it is the main product used to implement twisting the control of the net or it’s attempt.

What some people seem to always have to relearn is that complaining about some imagined slight or demanding that some data be removed is that it makes the geeks come out of the woodwork from now where to carry this material wished to be removed and spread it all over the net. Good example of that was the encoding key used to lock down dvds. Once the demand was met, there was a revolt within the net community and reproductions of the number popped up everywhere, not just at the site it was demanded to be taken down at. Such would have happened here as well with plasters from one end of the net to the other with just the data wished to be controlled and concealed.

Some folks never learn do they?