Comments on: Net neutrality bill ‘about fairness to consumers’ http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16066 p2pnet.net - reader powered Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:41:23 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16066/comment-page-1#comment-500804 Reader's Write Sat, 31 May 2008 01:40:21 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16066#comment-500804 It's really about some pretty simple math... If the net is hitting 95% capacity slow everyone down by 1% to prevent overloads and dropouts. Their way means slowing 10% of their customers by 90% to get the same effect. A 1% or even a 5% across the board slowdown would likely go unnoticed... when they chop the bottom out of my plan, forcing me back to dial-up speeds you can bet I'm going to notice. Bottom line... I pay for 5mbps access and that's what I expect to get. It’s really about some pretty simple math…

If the net is hitting 95% capacity slow everyone down by 1% to prevent overloads and dropouts.
Their way means slowing 10% of their customers by 90% to get the same effect.

A 1% or even a 5% across the board slowdown would likely go unnoticed… when they chop the
bottom out of my plan, forcing me back to dial-up speeds you can bet I’m going to notice.

Bottom line… I pay for 5mbps access and that’s what I expect to get.

]]> By: Colin http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16066/comment-page-1#comment-497923 Colin Thu, 29 May 2008 17:26:12 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16066#comment-497923 Most ISP's do charge extra for downloading content. Most users have a limited amount of download capacity per month (ie. the customer can only download 7 gigabytes per month, just for arguements sake) after which the ISP will charge appropriately for each gigabyte used that goes over that limit. This limit I do believe (I'm not to sure about this aspect) is a combination of the total uploading and downloading per month that the end-customer does. Most ISP’s do charge extra for downloading content. Most users have a limited amount of download capacity per month (ie. the customer can only download 7 gigabytes per month, just for arguements sake) after which the ISP will charge appropriately for each gigabyte used that goes over that limit. This limit I do believe (I’m not to sure about this aspect) is a combination of the total uploading and downloading per month that the end-customer does.

]]> By: Gustav http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16066/comment-page-1#comment-497667 Gustav Thu, 29 May 2008 14:41:00 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16066#comment-497667 ISPs are pulling the "we're protecting everyone" card but what they fail to acknowledge is that if it truly is a few abusers taking the bandwidth from others, they could simply charge more to abusers and use the extra revenue to expand the infrastructure, which is obviously needed given the proliferation of legal downloading of video and other large files these days. ISPs are pulling the “we’re protecting everyone” card but what they fail to acknowledge is that if it truly is a few abusers taking the bandwidth from others, they could simply charge more to abusers and use the extra revenue to expand the infrastructure, which is obviously needed given the proliferation of legal downloading of video and other large files these days.

]]> By: Paul Kambulow http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16066/comment-page-1#comment-497492 Paul Kambulow Thu, 29 May 2008 13:26:10 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16066#comment-497492 <p>I have clearly noted a major unacceptable slowdown of my downloads every evening this week too..</p> <p>Amazing one of the most active complaint issues by the citizens on Canada's interent and the major political parties in Canada still have no comment? Why?</p> <p>"The CRTC certainly shows no signs of protecting consumers, nor do the Conservatives and Liberals; they are much more likely to protect the interests of corporations when it comes to an issue such as this"..</p> <p>Net neutrality bill hits House of Commons<br /> CBC.ca - 14 hours ago<br /> By Peter Nowak CBC News NDP digital spokesman Charlie Angus doesn't believe the CRTC has all the tools it needs to prevent interference in the internet by service providers.<br /> Net neutrality bill ‘about fairness to consumers’ p2pnet.net<br /> Federal NDP To Introduce Net Neutrality Bill DigitalJournal.com<br /> Metro Canada - Ottawa - IT World Canada Blogs - GigaOm - mediacaster<br /> all 21 news articles »</p> <p>Interesting to note that this issue gets no attention from Canada's MAJOR private media organizations. Why? They are clearly influenced by Bell? Compare this to ..</p> <p>Stand by your ex (or be hoist by your own Couillard) Globe and Mail - What was he doing in Julie Couillard's house so long after they had broken up? Why did he leave sensitive documents there?<br /> all 1,393 news articles »</p> <p>"Net neutrality bill hits House of Commons<br /> The private member's bill, C-552, is in reaction to moves by some of Canada's largest internet service providers (ISPs), including Bell Canada Inc. and Rogers Communications Inc., to limit their customers' uses of the internet. Bell, Rogers and a few others say a small percentage of customers have been congesting their networks by using peer-to-peer applications such as BitTorrent, so they have slowed the internet down at peak times of the day.</p> <p>The ISPs' actions have provoked outrage from internet users, with about 300 protesters taking to the steps of Parliament Hill on Tuesday. Critics have said the targeting of peer-to-peer applications is just the tip of the iceberg. If ISPs are allowed to decide which internet applications can and can't be used, innovative new companies that were born from experimentation — such as Google, Amazon and eBay — may not happen in the future.</p> <p>"Net neutrality affects everybody, every person, every business, every hospital, every institution is involved in the exchange of information over the internet," Angus told CBCnews.ca. "This shouldn't be about party lines."</p> I have clearly noted a major unacceptable slowdown of my downloads every evening this week too..

Amazing one of the most active complaint issues by the citizens on Canada’s interent and the major political parties in Canada still have no comment? Why?

“The CRTC certainly shows no signs of protecting consumers, nor do the Conservatives and Liberals; they are much more likely to protect the interests of corporations when it comes to an issue such as this”..

Net neutrality bill hits House of Commons
CBC.ca – 14 hours ago
By Peter Nowak CBC News NDP digital spokesman Charlie Angus doesn’t believe the CRTC has all the tools it needs to prevent interference in the internet by service providers.
Net neutrality bill ‘about fairness to consumers’ p2pnet.net
Federal NDP To Introduce Net Neutrality Bill DigitalJournal.com
Metro Canada – Ottawa – IT World Canada Blogs – GigaOm – mediacaster
all 21 news articles »

Interesting to note that this issue gets no attention from Canada’s MAJOR private media organizations. Why? They are clearly influenced by Bell? Compare this to ..

Stand by your ex (or be hoist by your own Couillard) Globe and Mail – What was he doing in Julie Couillard’s house so long after they had broken up? Why did he leave sensitive documents there?
all 1,393 news articles »

“Net neutrality bill hits House of Commons
The private member’s bill, C-552, is in reaction to moves by some of Canada’s largest internet service providers (ISPs), including Bell Canada Inc. and Rogers Communications Inc., to limit their customers’ uses of the internet. Bell, Rogers and a few others say a small percentage of customers have been congesting their networks by using peer-to-peer applications such as BitTorrent, so they have slowed the internet down at peak times of the day.

The ISPs’ actions have provoked outrage from internet users, with about 300 protesters taking to the steps of Parliament Hill on Tuesday. Critics have said the targeting of peer-to-peer applications is just the tip of the iceberg. If ISPs are allowed to decide which internet applications can and can’t be used, innovative new companies that were born from experimentation — such as Google, Amazon and eBay — may not happen in the future.

“Net neutrality affects everybody, every person, every business, every hospital, every institution is involved in the exchange of information over the internet,” Angus told CBCnews.ca. “This shouldn’t be about party lines.”

]]> By: Sam here http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16066/comment-page-1#comment-497013 Sam here Thu, 29 May 2008 07:41:28 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16066#comment-497013 "Bell, Rogers and a few others say a small percentage of customers have been congesting their networks by using peer-to-peer applications such as BitTorrent, so they have slowed the internet down at peak times of the day" Hahahaa, what a bunch of molarky. The truth is they are not prepared to let customers have what they offered them in the contract. There is too much file sharing (90-95% of users) and they want to reduce their bandwidth, affecting everyone. In a feeble attempt to hide the truth, they claim that a small percentage of customers are doing this, and since they are aware of it and doing something about it, then the problem has been solved, and there's no need for media cartel attention. It implies also that they are opposed to file sharing, which is what keeps them in business. “Bell, Rogers and a few others say a small percentage of customers have been congesting their networks by using peer-to-peer applications such as BitTorrent, so they have slowed the internet down at peak times of the day”

Hahahaa, what a bunch of molarky. The truth is they are not prepared to let customers have what they offered them in the contract. There is too much file sharing (90-95% of users) and they want to reduce their bandwidth, affecting everyone. In a feeble attempt to hide the truth, they claim that a small percentage of customers are doing this, and since they are aware of it and doing something about it, then the problem has been solved, and there’s no need for media cartel attention. It implies also that they are opposed to file sharing, which is what keeps them in business.

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