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	<title>Comments on: Big 4 labels sue Blubster&#8217;s Pablo Soto</title>
	<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115</link>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-520997</link>
		<author>Hippie</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-520997</guid>
		<description>" 1) I am a needle in a hay stack despite the massive amount of stuff I am sharing.

2) They know that if they bother me the situation will escalate , "

 ITG.

 Please tell them , here , who you really are.
 I would like to see you fight and win .... really.
 If you are REALLY that financially capable of fighting them, then why don't you ?
 It would be for the good of all those that can't, after all.
 Hurt them even more by beating them in a citable court battle ... that will hurt them even more than
 sharing files, since we all know that sharing files does not harm them in the least.

 Who's the coward ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; 1) I am a needle in a hay stack despite the massive amount of stuff I am sharing.</p>
<p>2) They know that if they bother me the situation will escalate , &#8221;</p>
<p> ITG.</p>
<p> Please tell them , here , who you really are.<br />
 I would like to see you fight and win &#8230;. really.<br />
 If you are REALLY that financially capable of fighting them, then why don&#8217;t you ?<br />
 It would be for the good of all those that can&#8217;t, after all.<br />
 Hurt them even more by beating them in a citable court battle &#8230; that will hurt them even more than<br />
 sharing files, since we all know that sharing files does not harm them in the least.</p>
<p> Who&#8217;s the coward ?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-520798</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-520798</guid>
		<description>I am running almost days and night a system that is only doing one thing: Share 30,000  RIAA crap related, just to bother these parasites at the RIAA and  so far no news from them. 

There is two possibilities: 

1) I am a needle in a hay stack despite the massive amount of stuff I am sharing.

2) They know that if they bother me  the situation will escalate , they know what this mean and they are affraid since they are just a pack of coward like any typical bullies preying only on the weaks.

Be strong man! Be very strong! Promise them hell, give them hell and they will go away! 

BOYCOTT THE RIAA/MPAA! Protect the innocents, attack the parasites! 

Let be the new knights of the 21first century! Humanity needs us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am running almost days and night a system that is only doing one thing: Share 30,000  RIAA crap related, just to bother these parasites at the RIAA and  so far no news from them. </p>
<p>There is two possibilities: </p>
<p>1) I am a needle in a hay stack despite the massive amount of stuff I am sharing.</p>
<p>2) They know that if they bother me  the situation will escalate , they know what this mean and they are affraid since they are just a pack of coward like any typical bullies preying only on the weaks.</p>
<p>Be strong man! Be very strong! Promise them hell, give them hell and they will go away! </p>
<p>BOYCOTT THE RIAA/MPAA! Protect the innocents, attack the parasites! </p>
<p>Let be the new knights of the 21first century! Humanity needs us.</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-518077</link>
		<author>Hippie</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-518077</guid>
		<description>" Do you think this valid business model is sustainable? "

 In the long run ?
 Absolutely not.

 I don't think they are really all that concerned about the long run.
 Considering how many of the court cases are going ( RIAA beginning to get their asses handed to them )
 they are looking only to fill as many of their own pockets as they can, and fast ... and by their own
 pockets I DON'T mean any of the artists they CLAIM to represent.

 They are playing game of percentages that will soon go against them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Do you think this valid business model is sustainable? &#8221;</p>
<p> In the long run ?<br />
 Absolutely not.</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t think they are really all that concerned about the long run.<br />
 Considering how many of the court cases are going ( RIAA beginning to get their asses handed to them )<br />
 they are looking only to fill as many of their own pockets as they can, and fast &#8230; and by their own<br />
 pockets I DON&#8217;T mean any of the artists they CLAIM to represent.</p>
<p> They are playing game of percentages that will soon go against them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mostly Harmless</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-518027</link>
		<author>Mostly Harmless</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-518027</guid>
		<description>Hippie, I see your point, sort of anyway. Perhaps "valid" is not quite the right word. Do you think this valid business model is sustainable? Would you invest in these companies based on that business model (other possible objections aside)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hippie, I see your point, sort of anyway. Perhaps &#8220;valid&#8221; is not quite the right word. Do you think this valid business model is sustainable? Would you invest in these companies based on that business model (other possible objections aside)?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-517901</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-517901</guid>
		<description>I am using their CDs as cup holders and frezbee just like the AOL CDs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am using their CDs as cup holders and frezbee just like the AOL CDs!</p>
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		<title>By: kdsde</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-517091</link>
		<author>kdsde</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-517091</guid>
		<description>Remember "Popstar"?

"Gonna sing canned music that my label feeds me
Oversaturate the marked 'till everyone is sick of me"

Oh trust James@war it will happen!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uSlqI1AVUk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember &#8220;Popstar&#8221;?</p>
<p>&#8220;Gonna sing canned music that my label feeds me<br />
Oversaturate the marked &#8217;till everyone is sick of me&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh trust <a href="mailto:James@war">James@war</a> it will happen!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uSlqI1AVUk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uSlqI1AVUk</a></p>
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		<title>By: kdsde</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-517056</link>
		<author>kdsde</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-517056</guid>
		<description>and the only reason that their product is still shared is because it is ment as an answer by those sharers to Cory D's question?

"At what point do we just abandon any pretense of making peace with these gangsters? When will it be time to declare war on them, to engage in file-sharing not because we love music, but because we hate the record companies?" --- Cory Doctorow  
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/02/13/riaa-to-isps-send-ou.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and the only reason that their product is still shared is because it is ment as an answer by those sharers to Cory D&#8217;s question?</p>
<p>&#8220;At what point do we just abandon any pretense of making peace with these gangsters? When will it be time to declare war on them, to engage in file-sharing not because we love music, but because we hate the record companies?&#8221; &#8212; Cory Doctorow<br />
<a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2007/02/13/riaa-to-isps-send-ou.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2007/02/13/riaa-to-isps-send-ou.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: kdsde</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-517045</link>
		<author>kdsde</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-517045</guid>
		<description>actually that was in already 2006 but you can bet in 2008 those teenagers would not only NOT want it because the industry music is shit, but also because they are disgusted by what EVIL4 is doing and try to stay away from their product as good as possible.

 http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10498664</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually that was in already 2006 but you can bet in 2008 those teenagers would not only NOT want it because the industry music is shit, but also because they are disgusted by what EVIL4 is doing and try to stay away from their product as good as possible.</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10498664" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10498664</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-516684</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-516684</guid>
		<description>And that business model will work for a while. How many of those college kids have friend that don't know about the woes of the victim? Bet most of them won't want to buy any music of any sort. Thing is, thats the music business's future gonna be saying we don't need no stinking music from you. Not what I would call a sustainable future model. 

Figure for every one of the students sued, it would not be out of bounds to say that there will be 5 more saying indie music is the way to go after hearing of their friends plight. That big music is not worth the hassles of dealing with the protection DRM on them, the crap they dish out, the out of sight prices, the low quality, and as a pure spite. They may be collecting today but what about tomorrow when they find out they can't give away their music; that no one wants it. 

Funny thing is, last year or so, they enlisted a bunch of young teens to a workshop for how to improve. As a reward for their time with the workshop and with surveys, they were offered a table full of cds that they could pick through. No one of them wanted the first cd. It tells you how the future of the music business is headed right now. If you thought you were hearing the major labels crying before, wait another few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that business model will work for a while. How many of those college kids have friend that don&#8217;t know about the woes of the victim? Bet most of them won&#8217;t want to buy any music of any sort. Thing is, thats the music business&#8217;s future gonna be saying we don&#8217;t need no stinking music from you. Not what I would call a sustainable future model. </p>
<p>Figure for every one of the students sued, it would not be out of bounds to say that there will be 5 more saying indie music is the way to go after hearing of their friends plight. That big music is not worth the hassles of dealing with the protection DRM on them, the crap they dish out, the out of sight prices, the low quality, and as a pure spite. They may be collecting today but what about tomorrow when they find out they can&#8217;t give away their music; that no one wants it. </p>
<p>Funny thing is, last year or so, they enlisted a bunch of young teens to a workshop for how to improve. As a reward for their time with the workshop and with surveys, they were offered a table full of cds that they could pick through. No one of them wanted the first cd. It tells you how the future of the music business is headed right now. If you thought you were hearing the major labels crying before, wait another few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-515961</link>
		<author>Hippie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-515961</guid>
		<description>" FTA- “Litigation is in itself not a valid business model for them…” 

 Really ?

 Lets look at those college kids that were sued, and paid the 3000 to 5000 extortion fee ?

 How much money do you think one may spend on average on cd's per year ?
 I guarantee it's less than the extortion amount.

 Much less.

 Just by collecting from ONE student they have made up for the sales lost ( from lackluster product, to video games, DVD's, and
 other competition ) from 50 to 60 customers.

 This is the only business model they have left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; FTA- “Litigation is in itself not a valid business model for them…” </p>
<p> Really ?</p>
<p> Lets look at those college kids that were sued, and paid the 3000 to 5000 extortion fee ?</p>
<p> How much money do you think one may spend on average on cd&#8217;s per year ?<br />
 I guarantee it&#8217;s less than the extortion amount.</p>
<p> Much less.</p>
<p> Just by collecting from ONE student they have made up for the sales lost ( from lackluster product, to video games, DVD&#8217;s, and<br />
 other competition ) from 50 to 60 customers.</p>
<p> This is the only business model they have left.</p>
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		<title>By: Mostly Harmless</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-515896</link>
		<author>Mostly Harmless</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-515896</guid>
		<description>FTA- “Litigation is in itself not a valid business model for them..."

I agree. Once upon a time Big Music's business model was to sell people music they wanted. They soon developed a taste for "controlling" the market, a.k.a. "payola". From there things steadily deteriorated to the point where now litigation and lobbying comprise the majority of the Big Music Cabal's so called business model, valid or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FTA- “Litigation is in itself not a valid business model for them&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree. Once upon a time Big Music&#8217;s business model was to sell people music they wanted. They soon developed a taste for &#8220;controlling&#8221; the market, a.k.a. &#8220;payola&#8221;. From there things steadily deteriorated to the point where now litigation and lobbying comprise the majority of the Big Music Cabal&#8217;s so called business model, valid or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-515494</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-515494</guid>
		<description>"Sue the gun makers for killing people. They are making things with only one objective: TO KILL LIVING THINGS!" 

This is very right. The parasites of the music and entertianement industry where leaving things. 

Until now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sue the gun makers for killing people. They are making things with only one objective: TO KILL LIVING THINGS!&#8221; </p>
<p>This is very right. The parasites of the music and entertianement industry where leaving things. </p>
<p>Until now.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-515332</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-515332</guid>
		<description>Before everyone gets too put out about this, you should know that Blubster has adware.  I'll take any of the nice clean alternatives any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before everyone gets too put out about this, you should know that Blubster has adware.  I&#8217;ll take any of the nice clean alternatives any day.</p>
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		<title>By: bah</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-515298</link>
		<author>bah</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-515298</guid>
		<description>Some things need killin. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some things need killin. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Dude from Finland</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-514869</link>
		<author>Dude from Finland</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-514869</guid>
		<description>Sue the gun makers for killing people. They are making things with only one objective: TO KILL LIVING THINGS! How come there are no headlines about that? Big business....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue the gun makers for killing people. They are making things with only one objective: TO KILL LIVING THINGS! How come there are no headlines about that? Big business&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-514766</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-514766</guid>
		<description>Yeah this guy is obviously a criminal to allow old tunes to be shared. Look at that surly, rebellious, shifty eyed character. Haha, not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah this guy is obviously a criminal to allow old tunes to be shared. Look at that surly, rebellious, shifty eyed character. Haha, not.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-514757</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16115#comment-514757</guid>
		<description>Blubster is just a p2p file sharing application. Since when is it illegal to develop or use one of those, or to share files? The media industries are just peeved because it makes it harder to trace their intended victims, and so they go back up the line to threaten. This guy is no more guilty of a crime than the phone company is responsible for providing listed numbers to potential law breakers.

As we've seen, the intention, win or lose, is to bankrupt the victim guilty or not through legal fees, else settle out of court. They can do this to anyone, regardless of whether a person has any involvement even with a PC, or if a child or even a deceased person. Then they can go after the relatives to ruin their lives instead. These hideous beasts must be stopped in their tracks. But who will do it? So long as the law is either on their side, or complacent about it, they bulldoze and steamroll on.

When will local govts put their foot down and change the laws to protect the innocent instead of the rapacious wolves? Who knows, but I'm sure it not only feeds the "justice" system constantly but also provides hefty income taxes and bribe revenue, so it could take some length of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blubster is just a p2p file sharing application. Since when is it illegal to develop or use one of those, or to share files? The media industries are just peeved because it makes it harder to trace their intended victims, and so they go back up the line to threaten. This guy is no more guilty of a crime than the phone company is responsible for providing listed numbers to potential law breakers.</p>
<p>As we&#8217;ve seen, the intention, win or lose, is to bankrupt the victim guilty or not through legal fees, else settle out of court. They can do this to anyone, regardless of whether a person has any involvement even with a PC, or if a child or even a deceased person. Then they can go after the relatives to ruin their lives instead. These hideous beasts must be stopped in their tracks. But who will do it? So long as the law is either on their side, or complacent about it, they bulldoze and steamroll on.</p>
<p>When will local govts put their foot down and change the laws to protect the innocent instead of the rapacious wolves? Who knows, but I&#8217;m sure it not only feeds the &#8220;justice&#8221; system constantly but also provides hefty income taxes and bribe revenue, so it could take some length of time.</p>
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