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		<title>By: Nuihc</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16170/comment-page-1#comment-544684</link>
		<dc:creator>Nuihc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Reader&#039;s Write Says:
&quot;If in this particular case, they were both consenting and no dissimulation was involved, then I see no basis for society to interdict&quot;

Surely you must be kidding. 
Society tells us what we can (and can&#039;t) watch on TV.
Society tells us what we can (and can&#039;t) listen to on the Radio.
Society tells us what we can (and can&#039;t) read.
Society tells us what we can (and can&#039;t) download. 
Society tells us what we can (and can&#039;t) smoke.
Society tells us what we can (and can&#039;t) drink.
Society tells us what we can (and can&#039;t) eat. (Well, that&#039;s next anyway)
Society tells us what we can (and can&#039;t) think.
Society tells us who we can (and can&#039;t) :)

Methinks society needs to get a frickin life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Reader&#8217;s Write Says:<br />
&#8220;If in this particular case, they were both consenting and no dissimulation was involved, then I see no basis for society to interdict&#8221;</p>
<p>Surely you must be kidding.<br />
Society tells us what we can (and can&#8217;t) watch on TV.<br />
Society tells us what we can (and can&#8217;t) listen to on the Radio.<br />
Society tells us what we can (and can&#8217;t) read.<br />
Society tells us what we can (and can&#8217;t) download.<br />
Society tells us what we can (and can&#8217;t) smoke.<br />
Society tells us what we can (and can&#8217;t) drink.<br />
Society tells us what we can (and can&#8217;t) eat. (Well, that&#8217;s next anyway)<br />
Society tells us what we can (and can&#8217;t) think.<br />
Society tells us who we can (and can&#8217;t) <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Methinks society needs to get a frickin life!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16170/comment-page-1#comment-542607</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people seem to forget that only 200 years ago (even less), both boys and girls were often wed by age 12+. It&#039;s a very polemic issue that of what age is acceptable to engage in sexual activities. The legally approved age has been incrementally increasing over the years. I don&#039;t believe laws should dictate what consenting individuals choose to do.

If in this particular case, they were both consenting and no dissimulation was involved, then I see no basis for society to interdict.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people seem to forget that only 200 years ago (even less), both boys and girls were often wed by age 12+. It&#8217;s a very polemic issue that of what age is acceptable to engage in sexual activities. The legally approved age has been incrementally increasing over the years. I don&#8217;t believe laws should dictate what consenting individuals choose to do.</p>
<p>If in this particular case, they were both consenting and no dissimulation was involved, then I see no basis for society to interdict.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16170/comment-page-1#comment-541289</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s bizarre that this guy would fly all the way across the Atlantic to meet someone. He only lived a short drive from Amsterdam, where it&#039;s said that even the most perverse can easily find anything they might want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s bizarre that this guy would fly all the way across the Atlantic to meet someone. He only lived a short drive from Amsterdam, where it&#8217;s said that even the most perverse can easily find anything they might want.</p>
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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16170/comment-page-1#comment-540988</link>
		<dc:creator>Rekrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I think each case needs to be evaluated on its own merits rather than have a blanket law that covers all. If she ran off somewhere and had sex with a 14 year old, they&#039;d both get a stern talking to. Increase the guy&#039;s age to 18 or over and suddenly it&#039;s a major crime. He&#039;s considered a dangerous predator while she&#039;s considered a helpless victim. I know boys and girls are different but back when I was that age, I had the hots for the teenager girl that my parents had babysit me a few times. If she&#039;d wanted to fool around, I&#039;d have been more than willing. Would that have made me a victim? They say that girls mature faster than boys, so if I was willing at that age, why couldn&#039;t a girl be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I think each case needs to be evaluated on its own merits rather than have a blanket law that covers all. If she ran off somewhere and had sex with a 14 year old, they&#8217;d both get a stern talking to. Increase the guy&#8217;s age to 18 or over and suddenly it&#8217;s a major crime. He&#8217;s considered a dangerous predator while she&#8217;s considered a helpless victim. I know boys and girls are different but back when I was that age, I had the hots for the teenager girl that my parents had babysit me a few times. If she&#8217;d wanted to fool around, I&#8217;d have been more than willing. Would that have made me a victim? They say that girls mature faster than boys, so if I was willing at that age, why couldn&#8217;t a girl be?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16170/comment-page-1#comment-540415</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Police said they found a man and the girl at 3:30 a.m. Saturday, after a worker at a hotel recognized them.&quot;

So this guy never thought it might seem the least bit odd for a 32 y.o. to check in at a hotel&#039;s front desk with a 13 y.o. girl at his side? 

I figured it was standard operating procedure for illicit affairs for the guy to pay for a MOTEL room (the kind you can drive right up to) alone and then quietly slip his &#039;date&#039; from the car into the room.

Maybe it&#039;s something about the French-speaking people. They did, after all, welcome fugitive sex-offender Roman Polanski, who also had a taste for 13 year-old girls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Police said they found a man and the girl at 3:30 a.m. Saturday, after a worker at a hotel recognized them.&#8221;</p>
<p>So this guy never thought it might seem the least bit odd for a 32 y.o. to check in at a hotel&#8217;s front desk with a 13 y.o. girl at his side? </p>
<p>I figured it was standard operating procedure for illicit affairs for the guy to pay for a MOTEL room (the kind you can drive right up to) alone and then quietly slip his &#8216;date&#8217; from the car into the room.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s something about the French-speaking people. They did, after all, welcome fugitive sex-offender Roman Polanski, who also had a taste for 13 year-old girls.</p>
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		<title>By: Parents fault</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16170/comment-page-1#comment-540309</link>
		<dc:creator>Parents fault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets not forget how easy it was for the police to find them.

Everything was documented in their Emails. The EMAILS in the kids INBOX.

This says a whole friggin lot about the parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets not forget how easy it was for the police to find them.</p>
<p>Everything was documented in their Emails. The EMAILS in the kids INBOX.</p>
<p>This says a whole friggin lot about the parents.</p>
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		<title>By: Parents fault</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16170/comment-page-1#comment-540303</link>
		<dc:creator>Parents fault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Reader&#039;s Write 

1. The girl went w/o any force under her own will and willingly.
2. The parents knew about it since Feb but just left the girl continue the only relationship.
3. The girl told him she was 25.
4. The guy (up until Feb, when the parents CONTACTED him) was under the belief the girl was 25.
5. They were going to take off to an Amish community in Ontario where its legal to be with a 13 year old (both discussed it).
6. Lets not forget the paranets were AWARE since Feb and made no restrictions on the girls continuing relationship, and no restrictions on the 13 year old girls internet habit.
7. This shows exactly how much the PARENTS were not involved with their own 13 year old daughter after KNOWING 5 months prior to this.

Ref:
1. http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=3fec0cb2-9573-4dbe-a0f0-e4038b947e53
2. http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=eedd44dc-e39a-4704-abaf-f1762ae7b750
3. http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=1b220aaa-12e8-4b0e-8eb1-ee6056550e26</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Reader&#8217;s Write </p>
<p>1. The girl went w/o any force under her own will and willingly.<br />
2. The parents knew about it since Feb but just left the girl continue the only relationship.<br />
3. The girl told him she was 25.<br />
4. The guy (up until Feb, when the parents CONTACTED him) was under the belief the girl was 25.<br />
5. They were going to take off to an Amish community in Ontario where its legal to be with a 13 year old (both discussed it).<br />
6. Lets not forget the paranets were AWARE since Feb and made no restrictions on the girls continuing relationship, and no restrictions on the 13 year old girls internet habit.<br />
7. This shows exactly how much the PARENTS were not involved with their own 13 year old daughter after KNOWING 5 months prior to this.</p>
<p>Ref:<br />
1. <a href="http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=3fec0cb2-9573-4dbe-a0f0-e4038b947e53" rel="nofollow">http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=3fec0cb2-9573-4dbe-a0f0-e4038b947e53</a><br />
2. <a href="http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=eedd44dc-e39a-4704-abaf-f1762ae7b750" rel="nofollow">http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=eedd44dc-e39a-4704-abaf-f1762ae7b750</a><br />
3. <a href="http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=1b220aaa-12e8-4b0e-8eb1-ee6056550e26" rel="nofollow">http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=1b220aaa-12e8-4b0e-8eb1-ee6056550e26</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16170/comment-page-1#comment-540158</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read both linked news stories and I can&#039;t help but notice that they leave out a few things. It says he was accused of kidnapping, but nowhere in the articles does it say that he forced the girl to go with him. In fact there&#039;s no mention at all of the girl&#039;s side of the story. Oops, I forgot, at 13 she&#039;s still just a brainless zombie with no intelligence whatsoever who will do anything and everything that people tell her. It also doesn&#039;t say if he previously told the girl how old he was, or if he lied to her to make her think he was closer to her age.

People talk about the &quot;damage&quot; caused by young teens having any sort of sexual encounter with an adult, but I can&#039;t help wondering how much damage it&#039;s going to do, seeing police rush into the room, cuff and man-handle the man she apparently considered her boyfriend, then be taken to the hospital and forced to strip naked so that doctors can examine every inch of her body, and have to put her legs up in stirrups so that they can swab the inside of her vagina for possible semen samples, all while cops ask questions like &quot;Did he make you touch his penis? Did he put his fingers inside you&quot;...

I&#039;m not saying that what he did was right or that it should be overlooked, but the news stories make it sound like he lied to her and told her he was her age, showed up at her school, dragged her kicking and screaming to the hotel and tried to rape her. I&#039;d be willing to bet that they don&#039;t mention the girl&#039;s side of the story because she was a willing participant rather than a helpless victim and they want to perpetuate the myth that teens don&#039;t have sexual thoughts until they turn 18.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read both linked news stories and I can&#8217;t help but notice that they leave out a few things. It says he was accused of kidnapping, but nowhere in the articles does it say that he forced the girl to go with him. In fact there&#8217;s no mention at all of the girl&#8217;s side of the story. Oops, I forgot, at 13 she&#8217;s still just a brainless zombie with no intelligence whatsoever who will do anything and everything that people tell her. It also doesn&#8217;t say if he previously told the girl how old he was, or if he lied to her to make her think he was closer to her age.</p>
<p>People talk about the &#8220;damage&#8221; caused by young teens having any sort of sexual encounter with an adult, but I can&#8217;t help wondering how much damage it&#8217;s going to do, seeing police rush into the room, cuff and man-handle the man she apparently considered her boyfriend, then be taken to the hospital and forced to strip naked so that doctors can examine every inch of her body, and have to put her legs up in stirrups so that they can swab the inside of her vagina for possible semen samples, all while cops ask questions like &#8220;Did he make you touch his penis? Did he put his fingers inside you&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that what he did was right or that it should be overlooked, but the news stories make it sound like he lied to her and told her he was her age, showed up at her school, dragged her kicking and screaming to the hotel and tried to rape her. I&#8217;d be willing to bet that they don&#8217;t mention the girl&#8217;s side of the story because she was a willing participant rather than a helpless victim and they want to perpetuate the myth that teens don&#8217;t have sexual thoughts until they turn 18.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16170/comment-page-1#comment-539575</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Instead of burning a guy at the stake, what about burning him at the STILTS? It probably lasts longer, plus it moves around.&quot;
-- Jack Handey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Instead of burning a guy at the stake, what about burning him at the STILTS? It probably lasts longer, plus it moves around.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Jack Handey</p>
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