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	<title>Comments on: MPAA joins RIAA in Jammie Thomas attack</title>
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		<title>By: Quartz</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16192/comment-page-1#comment-556931</link>
		<dc:creator>Quartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They can debate all day, the law is clear: distribution must have taken place as the right is simply one of allowing a copy, if no copy was created (this requires proof not conjecture) then the law has not been broken , this judge should step down and allow a fair retrail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can debate all day, the law is clear: distribution must have taken place as the right is simply one of allowing a copy, if no copy was created (this requires proof not conjecture) then the law has not been broken , this judge should step down and allow a fair retrail.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16192/comment-page-1#comment-550691</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They. Wont. Pay.

There has been no indication that they will EVER adhere
to any rule of law, and no indication that they will EVER
truly be called to task for it.

My apologies to MR. Beckerman, but there is no indication that your, or
anyones faith in the legal system is justified.

Maybe if once, just once, they actually experienced a sanction for their obvious
gamesmanship, I might be capable of believing in the system, but I don&#039;t
think I will live long enough to see it happen, even if I surpass methuselah in age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They. Wont. Pay.</p>
<p>There has been no indication that they will EVER adhere<br />
to any rule of law, and no indication that they will EVER<br />
truly be called to task for it.</p>
<p>My apologies to MR. Beckerman, but there is no indication that your, or<br />
anyones faith in the legal system is justified.</p>
<p>Maybe if once, just once, they actually experienced a sanction for their obvious<br />
gamesmanship, I might be capable of believing in the system, but I don&#8217;t<br />
think I will live long enough to see it happen, even if I surpass methuselah in age.</p>
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		<title>By: Dude from Finland</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16192/comment-page-1#comment-549381</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude from Finland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making available = Copyright infrigement?
Selling guns = Killing people?
Selling cars = Disabling people?

Am I following the right train of tought here???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making available = Copyright infrigement?<br />
Selling guns = Killing people?<br />
Selling cars = Disabling people?</p>
<p>Am I following the right train of tought here???</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16192/comment-page-1#comment-547854</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t need blank media anymore. There are large hard drives and external storage. Btw, what&#039;s she doing with that boy&#039;s elbow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t need blank media anymore. There are large hard drives and external storage. Btw, what&#8217;s she doing with that boy&#8217;s elbow?</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16192/comment-page-1#comment-547812</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bemoans the MPAA, “it is often very difficult, and in some cases impossible, to provide such direct proof when confronting modern forms of copyright infringement, whether over P2P networks or otherwise; understandably, copyright infringers typically do not keep records of infringement. Mandating that proof could thus have the pernicious effect of depriving copyright owners of a practical remedy against the massive copyright infringement in many instances.”&quot;

Then I propose that all who by packs of blank dvds and cds be arrested and acused of copyright infringement, as there is no way that these can be used without comitting some kind of crime.

Certainly is is not practical to catch for the actual owner of a copyright the blank media criminals in tha act of copying, and as they say, prevention is the best remedy.

As is evident I agree with MPAA. Jail every freeloader in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bemoans the MPAA, “it is often very difficult, and in some cases impossible, to provide such direct proof when confronting modern forms of copyright infringement, whether over P2P networks or otherwise; understandably, copyright infringers typically do not keep records of infringement. Mandating that proof could thus have the pernicious effect of depriving copyright owners of a practical remedy against the massive copyright infringement in many instances.”&#8221;</p>
<p>Then I propose that all who by packs of blank dvds and cds be arrested and acused of copyright infringement, as there is no way that these can be used without comitting some kind of crime.</p>
<p>Certainly is is not practical to catch for the actual owner of a copyright the blank media criminals in tha act of copying, and as they say, prevention is the best remedy.</p>
<p>As is evident I agree with MPAA. Jail every freeloader in America.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16192/comment-page-1#comment-546507</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE real WAR of TERROR, you tell me what it is....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE real WAR of TERROR, you tell me what it is&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16192/comment-page-1#comment-546504</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;MPAA=RIAA= nest of parasites. Let spray both place with pest killer.&quot;

Why use pesticide when napalm works better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;MPAA=RIAA= nest of parasites. Let spray both place with pest killer.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why use pesticide when napalm works better?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16192/comment-page-1#comment-546316</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I guarantee that within a month of such a verdict, there will be a bill before congress that specifically prohibits anyone from “making available” copyrighted works on the internet.&quot;

If it can seen or heard, it can be copied. So if you let anyone see it or hear it, you are &quot;making it available&quot;.
So if you do not want your content to be copied, then lock it away.

There is a new generation of creators who see the benefits of sharing and actually want their content copied, shared and passed around. 
Time to put our eyes &amp; ears on their stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I guarantee that within a month of such a verdict, there will be a bill before congress that specifically prohibits anyone from “making available” copyrighted works on the internet.&#8221;</p>
<p>If it can seen or heard, it can be copied. So if you let anyone see it or hear it, you are &#8220;making it available&#8221;.<br />
So if you do not want your content to be copied, then lock it away.</p>
<p>There is a new generation of creators who see the benefits of sharing and actually want their content copied, shared and passed around.<br />
Time to put our eyes &amp; ears on their stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16192/comment-page-1#comment-546068</link>
		<dc:creator>Rekrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I&#039;ve posted before; Even if it&#039;s ruled that &quot;making available&quot; doesn&#039;t equal infringement, it will be a short victory. I guarantee that within a month of such a verdict, there will be a bill before congress that specifically prohibits anyone from &quot;making available&quot; copyrighted works on the internet. If the current laws won&#039;t work for them, they&#039;ll just buy new ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve posted before; Even if it&#8217;s ruled that &#8220;making available&#8221; doesn&#8217;t equal infringement, it will be a short victory. I guarantee that within a month of such a verdict, there will be a bill before congress that specifically prohibits anyone from &#8220;making available&#8221; copyrighted works on the internet. If the current laws won&#8217;t work for them, they&#8217;ll just buy new ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Mostly Harmless</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16192/comment-page-1#comment-546028</link>
		<dc:creator>Mostly Harmless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There may not be a requirement of actual distribution, but don&#039;t they have to prove some kind of economic damage or something? We are just giving these corporations carte blanche to run roughshod over people&#039;s privacy. This is not good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may not be a requirement of actual distribution, but don&#8217;t they have to prove some kind of economic damage or something? We are just giving these corporations carte blanche to run roughshod over people&#8217;s privacy. This is not good.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16192/comment-page-1#comment-545983</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine received a DMCA notice from Comcast for downloading TV shows.  He isn&#039;t a big pirate, just downloads the occasional torrent.  He never really had much interest in the RIAA/MPAA consumer fight.  However, that notice pissed him off!  I&#039;m now happy to say that he is downloading more than ever, just to spite them.  He says his movie and CD buying days are over.

It&#039;s nice when the aposing side helps convert supporters to your side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine received a DMCA notice from Comcast for downloading TV shows.  He isn&#8217;t a big pirate, just downloads the occasional torrent.  He never really had much interest in the RIAA/MPAA consumer fight.  However, that notice pissed him off!  I&#8217;m now happy to say that he is downloading more than ever, just to spite them.  He says his movie and CD buying days are over.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice when the aposing side helps convert supporters to your side.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16192/comment-page-1#comment-545971</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MPAA joining the RIAA to pick on Jammie smacks of desperation to me.

The judge realised that he screwed up and the RIAA/MPAA know that it&#039;s gonna set a big precedent against them when she wins the appeal, hence wading in with their lies and half-truths to try and crush her.

Unfortunately, when it comes to the big picture, I think that Big Media is winning this war. :( More and more anti-consumer laws are getting drafted around the world and only yesterday, Tech Dirt published a story showing how the UK government is leaning heavily on ISPs to be good little corporate copyright cops:

UK Gov&#039;t Tells ISPs They Need To Play Copyright Cops For Record Labels

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080623/1601351482.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MPAA joining the RIAA to pick on Jammie smacks of desperation to me.</p>
<p>The judge realised that he screwed up and the RIAA/MPAA know that it&#8217;s gonna set a big precedent against them when she wins the appeal, hence wading in with their lies and half-truths to try and crush her.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, when it comes to the big picture, I think that Big Media is winning this war. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  More and more anti-consumer laws are getting drafted around the world and only yesterday, Tech Dirt published a story showing how the UK government is leaning heavily on ISPs to be good little corporate copyright cops:</p>
<p>UK Gov&#8217;t Tells ISPs They Need To Play Copyright Cops For Record Labels</p>
<p><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080623/1601351482.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080623/1601351482.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16192/comment-page-1#comment-545968</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MPAA=RIAA= nest of parasites. Let spray both place with pest killer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MPAA=RIAA= nest of parasites. Let spray both place with pest killer.</p>
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