Comments on: Barack Obama and the RIAA http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282 p2pnet.net offers not-your-lamescream news on movies music digital media P2P peer-to-peer TV television file sharing freedom of speech open source product news Wifi mobiles company Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:57:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: greywolf http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-566351 greywolf Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:36:53 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-566351 I have adopted a "wait, and see" attitude where this three-ringed circus known as politics is concerned. Who ever wins the presidentship will be exposed to power, and authority on a scale they have never seen before. So we'll see how they are in 3 months after taking office, and see if they still have the trust, and respect of the people, or they have given in to the power, and money offered by the big record labels, and the RIAA. Remember the saying "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely". I have adopted a “wait, and see” attitude where this three-ringed circus known as politics is concerned. Who ever wins the presidentship will be exposed to power, and authority on a scale they have never seen before. So we’ll see how they are in 3 months after taking office, and see if they still have the trust, and respect of the people, or they have given in to the power, and money offered by the big record labels, and the RIAA. Remember the saying “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely”.

]]> By: Jon http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565950 Jon Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:08:16 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565950 Sorry Paulus. I was killing spam and I must have accidentally deleted your last post. But you're right -- "big music business now is in big trouble because consumers can connect with each other". Stay tuned :) Cheers! Sorry Paulus. I was killing spam and I must have accidentally deleted your last post.

But you’re right — “big music business now is in big trouble because consumers can connect with each other”.

Stay tuned :)

Cheers!

]]> By: Hippie http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565903 Hippie Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:40:35 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565903 " I said this is not about what Barak will do or not do if he is president. It is that the big music business now is in big trouble because consumers can connect with each other. " You're absolutely right Paulus. That is what this thread is about. The same applies to politics, big business, etc .. ANY business or politician concerned about hiding their secrets or misleading the public are in big trouble because EVERYONE can connect with each other and sort out the fact from fiction. That's why net neutrality is so important. Michael is trying to threadjack this tread and turn it into a political pissing contest, but it is realted in that the half truths are so easy to research. Start here. http://www.barackobama.com/index.php a lot of questions are answered about Mr Obama's stances on the ISSUES. If you don't want to believe him, that's fine. But ask yourself, if ALL of them lie, what make you think McCain is being any more truthful ? As I said, after seeing such a downhill slide over these many years, I am willing to risk the possibility that this man IS genuine, and I am far from alone. I won't take this thread any further off track. and I will no longer respond to any more political trolling in this thread. ” I said this is not about what Barak will do or not do if he is president. It is that the big music business now is in big trouble because consumers can connect with each other. ”

You’re absolutely right Paulus. That is what this thread is about.
The same applies to politics, big business, etc ..
ANY business or politician concerned about hiding their secrets or misleading the public are
in big trouble because EVERYONE can connect with each other and sort out the fact from fiction.
That’s why net neutrality is so important. Michael is trying to threadjack this tread and turn it into
a political pissing contest, but it is realted in that the half truths are so easy to research.

Start here.
http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

a lot of questions are answered about Mr Obama’s stances on the ISSUES.

If you don’t want to believe him, that’s fine.
But ask yourself, if ALL of them lie, what make you think McCain is being any more truthful ?

As I said, after seeing such a downhill slide over these many years, I am willing to risk the
possibility that this man IS genuine, and I am far from alone.

I won’t take this thread any further off track. and I will no longer
respond to any more political trolling in this thread.

]]> By: Paulus http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565895 Paulus Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:29:44 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565895 @ Michael (Why did you delete my post Jon? :) ) I said this is not about what Barak will do or not do if he is president. It is that the big music business now is in big trouble because consumers can connect with each other. @ Michael (Why did you delete my post Jon? :) )

I said this is not about what Barak will do or not do if he is president. It is that the big music business now is in big trouble because consumers can connect with each other.

]]> By: Hippie http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565894 Hippie Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:28:04 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565894 " You’ll see this when he demands that all American trading partners ratify ACTA within six months of his inauguration. " Ok, WHEN he is inaugurated, we'll see :) Bush has PROVEN to be worse. McCain has also PROVEN to be worse. As a person who has NEVER voted anything but third party since I was old enough to vote, I have enough confidence in Mr. Obama to be willing to take that risk. I am not alone in this. There are MANY third party voters like me who are finally willing to risk a major party candidate. Talking points and bullshit won't mislead us. We read, research and investigate, and still, Mr Obama shows the strongest. As for ACTA, well .. one of goebbels tactics was to take what YOUR candidate will do and claim that the opponent will do it. Obama MAY wish to ratify ACTA, but McCain Definitely will, regardless of anyones wishes. Paranoid fear is no longer going to manipulate me, or anyone else with a mind. nice try though .. OOOGA BOOOGA ” You’ll see this when he demands that all American trading partners ratify ACTA within six months of his inauguration. ”

Ok, WHEN he is inaugurated, we’ll see :)

Bush has PROVEN to be worse.
McCain has also PROVEN to be worse.

As a person who has NEVER voted anything but third party since I was old enough to vote,
I have enough confidence in Mr. Obama to be willing to take that risk.
I am not alone in this.
There are MANY third party voters like me who are finally willing to risk a major party candidate.
Talking points and bullshit won’t mislead us. We read, research and investigate, and still, Mr Obama
shows the strongest. As for ACTA, well .. one of goebbels tactics was to take what YOUR candidate will do
and claim that the opponent will do it. Obama MAY wish to ratify ACTA, but McCain Definitely will, regardless
of anyones wishes.

Paranoid fear is no longer going to manipulate me, or anyone else with a mind.

nice try though .. OOOGA BOOOGA

]]> By: Michael http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565717 Michael Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:33:50 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565717 Obama uses the internet...so he can use YOU! He is a politician:by definition a person saying exactly what you want to hear to get your vote. When the win happens then the money factor kicks in and you are all but forgotten in the mad dash for cash. And since the Hollywood gang has all the cash it turns out to be their big win. You'll see this when he demands that all American trading partners ratify ACTA within six months of his inauguration. Obama uses the internet…so he can use YOU! He is a politician:by definition a person saying exactly what you want to hear to get your vote. When the win happens then the money factor kicks in and you are all but forgotten in the mad dash for cash. And since the Hollywood gang has all the cash it turns out to be their big win. You’ll see this when he demands that all American trading partners ratify ACTA within six months of his inauguration.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565715 Reader's Write Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:32:17 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565715 You are right but the record companies have the finances and media control which will allow them to continue to misinform the majority of the population, in other words, those who are not internet account holders. You are right but the record companies have the finances and media control which will allow them to continue to misinform the majority of the population, in other words, those who are not internet account holders.

]]> By: Simon Mills http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565515 Simon Mills Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:21:42 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565515 Great article! Well said Hippie Great article! Well said Hippie

]]> By: Hippie http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565474 Hippie Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:03:52 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565474 Actually, I think it is an excellent comparison. HC thought she had the nomination in the bag. She forgot about just how FAST info goes around on the net. She forgot the 'Net never forgets. Every lie was found out usually minutes after she spoke it. Every denial was met with a link to a youtube video of her .. saying what she denied. Mr. Obama uses the internet to spread word of his policies and counter the rumor mills .. and to pont to where ther rumors can be proven to be lies. Using the internet .. Actively . Use the internet well and wisely, ignore it at your peril. HC=RIAA Obama= ???? Time will tell. Actually, I think it is an excellent comparison.

HC thought she had the nomination in the bag.
She forgot about just how FAST info goes around on the net.
She forgot the ‘Net never forgets.
Every lie was found out usually minutes after she spoke it.
Every denial was met with a link to a youtube video of her .. saying
what she denied.

Mr. Obama uses the internet to spread word of his policies and counter the
rumor mills .. and to pont to where ther rumors can be proven to be lies.
Using the internet .. Actively .

Use the internet well and wisely, ignore it at your peril.

HC=RIAA
Obama= ????

Time will tell.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565372 Reader's Write Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:52:19 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16282#comment-565372 Sorry but that was a terrible comparison. Move along, nothing to read here, just another mindless plug for Obama. Sorry but that was a terrible comparison. Move along, nothing to read here, just another mindless plug for Obama.

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