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	<title>Comments on: Is Canadian minister violating Google copyright?</title>
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		<title>By: Tools</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-718898</link>
		<author>Tools</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-718898</guid>
		<description>@Thinker

As pointed out by reader's write, the law is pretty clear about requiring genuine creative effort.  The Berne Convention (which covers international copyright arrangements) also clearly indicates that the laws of the *HOST* (home of the alleged infringement) apply, not the laws of the originator of the work.

You're an idiot for believing this drivelous accusation, and proudly indicate so in your comments.  This is not to say that Jim Prentice isn't a f***ing c**t; that doesn't mean you should be so proud that you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Thinker</p>
<p>As pointed out by reader&#8217;s write, the law is pretty clear about requiring genuine creative effort.  The Berne Convention (which covers international copyright arrangements) also clearly indicates that the laws of the *HOST* (home of the alleged infringement) apply, not the laws of the originator of the work.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re an idiot for believing this drivelous accusation, and proudly indicate so in your comments.  This is not to say that Jim Prentice isn&#8217;t a f***ing c**t; that doesn&#8217;t mean you should be so proud that you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-580577</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-580577</guid>
		<description>Here is what a comment on digital-copyright says:

Widespread infringement

Virtually every CPC member's web site is infringing Crown copyright, through the inclusion of ParlVu clips without any attribution as required.

Other infringements:
Modified Mapquest image (Patrick Brown)
House of Commons report reproduced without permission (Larry Miller)
Video feeds of press conference, no attribution (Goron O'Connor, Diane Finley)
Facebook screenshot (Josee Verner)
Press photos, no attribution (Mike Wallace, David Sweet)

I got halfway through the Ontario PC MPs, and only found 1 with no infringing content: Bev Oda. 1 out of 16.

comment is from here:

http://www.digital-copyright.ca/node/4768#comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is what a comment on digital-copyright says:</p>
<p>Widespread infringement</p>
<p>Virtually every CPC member&#8217;s web site is infringing Crown copyright, through the inclusion of ParlVu clips without any attribution as required.</p>
<p>Other infringements:<br />
Modified Mapquest image (Patrick Brown)<br />
House of Commons report reproduced without permission (Larry Miller)<br />
Video feeds of press conference, no attribution (Goron O&#8217;Connor, Diane Finley)<br />
Facebook screenshot (Josee Verner)<br />
Press photos, no attribution (Mike Wallace, David Sweet)</p>
<p>I got halfway through the Ontario PC MPs, and only found 1 with no infringing content: Bev Oda. 1 out of 16.</p>
<p>comment is from here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.digital-copyright.ca/node/4768#comment" rel="nofollow">http://www.digital-copyright.ca/node/4768#comment</a></p>
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		<title>By: Serge</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-578398</link>
		<author>Serge</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-578398</guid>
		<description>Prentice site doesn't show map anymore. So, it was infringement, otherwise, he wouldn't pull it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prentice site doesn&#8217;t show map anymore. So, it was infringement, otherwise, he wouldn&#8217;t pull it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-575729</link>
		<author>Dan</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 06:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-575729</guid>
		<description>I urge Google (tm) to sue Jim Prentice to the fullest extent of the law in every country in which that website was able to be accessed and was a violation of their copyright rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I urge Google &#8482; to sue Jim Prentice to the fullest extent of the law in every country in which that website was able to be accessed and was a violation of their copyright rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-573929</link>
		<author>Thinker</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-573929</guid>
		<description>"It is my understanding that maps cannot be copyrighted."

Yes, but the american copyright law is not clear, as with many other things, and jurisprudence is usually just as confusing.

Nevertheless some maps clearly can be copyrighted. Surely a highly decorated map or a map of restaurants in a city are so unique and creative that they can be copyrighted. 

Then a city or country map which is basically a copy of the official map of a city or country should not be copyrghted.

Just opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is my understanding that maps cannot be copyrighted.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, but the american copyright law is not clear, as with many other things, and jurisprudence is usually just as confusing.</p>
<p>Nevertheless some maps clearly can be copyrighted. Surely a highly decorated map or a map of restaurants in a city are so unique and creative that they can be copyrighted. </p>
<p>Then a city or country map which is basically a copy of the official map of a city or country should not be copyrghted.</p>
<p>Just opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-572417</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-572417</guid>
		<description>It is my understanding that maps cannot be copyrighted. Facts and data (like a telephone directory or a map) are excluded from copyright or automatically become public domain (I forget which one, but the result is the same.) Just because the terms of service make claims of what is allowed/not allowed, doesn't mean those claims are valid.

If Jim Prentice is violating copyright I hope he gets nailed for it. I'd bet diamonds to donuts that he or his family members are violating the proposed C-61. If it does become law I want to see EVERY single minister that voted for it investigated for copyright violations and then raked over the coals for their stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is my understanding that maps cannot be copyrighted. Facts and data (like a telephone directory or a map) are excluded from copyright or automatically become public domain (I forget which one, but the result is the same.) Just because the terms of service make claims of what is allowed/not allowed, doesn&#8217;t mean those claims are valid.</p>
<p>If Jim Prentice is violating copyright I hope he gets nailed for it. I&#8217;d bet diamonds to donuts that he or his family members are violating the proposed C-61. If it does become law I want to see EVERY single minister that voted for it investigated for copyright violations and then raked over the coals for their stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Abattoir</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-569112</link>
		<author>Abattoir</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-569112</guid>
		<description>Minister Verner is also violating Facebook's copyright by posting a screenshot from Facebook on her homepage.

http://www.joseeverner.ca/updated/index.php
http://www.facebook.com/terms.php

This is a fun game - how many other Conservative MPs are violating copyright?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minister Verner is also violating Facebook&#8217;s copyright by posting a screenshot from Facebook on her homepage.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.joseeverner.ca/updated/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.joseeverner.ca/updated/index.php</a><br />
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/terms.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/terms.php</a></p>
<p>This is a fun game - how many other Conservative MPs are violating copyright?</p>
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		<title>By: its from Bob Dylan, isn't it?</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-568031</link>
		<author>its from Bob Dylan, isn't it?</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-568031</guid>
		<description>no its not, but my post with the WP link gets eaten by wordpress antispam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no its not, but my post with the WP link gets eaten by wordpress antispam!</p>
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		<title>By: its from Bob Dylan, isn't it?</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-568021</link>
		<author>its from Bob Dylan, isn't it?</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-568021</guid>
		<description>and screw him doubleplusungood for destroying evidence of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and screw him doubleplusungood for destroying evidence of course!</p>
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		<title>By: its from Bob Dylan, isn't it?</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-568018</link>
		<author>its from Bob Dylan, isn't it?</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-568018</guid>
		<description>you know the melody!

"Where have all the streetmaps gone?
Some minion put them down!
where have all the streetmaps gone?
how find the way?"

so everybody make sure to keep their screenshots. Remember screenshots are evidence of copyrightinfringements according to MAFIAA. Not that Mr.P claims there were nobody watching this pirated streetmap!
Google lost millions of $ because people downloaded Mr. P's pirated perfect digital copy instead of buying the google ones for $0.99 each!

:-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know the melody!</p>
<p>&#8220;Where have all the streetmaps gone?<br />
Some minion put them down!<br />
where have all the streetmaps gone?<br />
how find the way?&#8221;</p>
<p>so everybody make sure to keep their screenshots. Remember screenshots are evidence of copyrightinfringements according to MAFIAA. Not that Mr.P claims there were nobody watching this pirated streetmap!<br />
Google lost millions of $ because people downloaded Mr. P&#8217;s pirated perfect digital copy instead of buying the google ones for $0.99 each!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-567334</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-567334</guid>
		<description>Doubleplusungood!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doubleplusungood!</p>
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		<title>By: He's not my primeminister!</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-567211</link>
		<author>He's not my primeminister!</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-567211</guid>
		<description>beside the "faux pax" factor!
Has canada laws that make it "extra bad" illegal if someone removes copyrightnotices?
Is the primeminister per default immune against such an "extra bad illegal"-behaviour prosecution?
And if yes, what needs to be done to remove his immunity so he gets jail time for this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beside the &#8220;faux pax&#8221; factor!<br />
Has canada laws that make it &#8220;extra bad&#8221; illegal if someone removes copyrightnotices?<br />
Is the primeminister per default immune against such an &#8220;extra bad illegal&#8221;-behaviour prosecution?<br />
And if yes, what needs to be done to remove his immunity so he gets jail time for this?</p>
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		<title>By: He's not my primeminister!</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-567151</link>
		<author>He's not my primeminister!</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-567151</guid>
		<description>LOL

"Do as I say, not do as I(*) do" the political motto of Mr. P.?!


(*) "Dear astute Netizens this was just an awkward faux pax by one of my minions. While this is of course not an excuse , I had nothing to do with this clear copyright violation! Vote for me!!one!eleven"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL</p>
<p>&#8220;Do as I say, not do as I(*) do&#8221; the political motto of Mr. P.?!</p>
<p>(*) &#8220;Dear astute Netizens this was just an awkward faux pax by one of my minions. While this is of course not an excuse , I had nothing to do with this clear copyright violation! Vote for me!!one!eleven&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-567149</link>
		<author>Josh</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16289#comment-567149</guid>
		<description>I hope he gets owned, but I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope he gets owned, but I doubt it.</p>
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