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		<title>By: Zorg</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-573672</link>
		<author>Zorg</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-573672</guid>
		<description>OldPhart:
If you ping the site, does it take long to look up the DNS, or is the ping less than 250ms starting immediately? If there's a wait before your first ping returns, then they all come in quick, it's probably a DNS issue... in which case you should take a look at www.opendns.com - which might be a good idea anyway. I know that some ISPs (e.g., Bell Canada) do what appear to be DNS filtering, a friend of mine in Montreal couldn't open her own web page with the default DNS setup, while I had no problem from Norway. She added one of the OpenDNS servers to her DNS lookup entries and the site showed up at once.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OldPhart:<br />
If you ping the site, does it take long to look up the DNS, or is the ping less than 250ms starting immediately? If there&#8217;s a wait before your first ping returns, then they all come in quick, it&#8217;s probably a DNS issue&#8230; in which case you should take a look at <a href="http://www.opendns.com" rel="nofollow">www.opendns.com</a> - which might be a good idea anyway. I know that some ISPs (e.g., Bell Canada) do what appear to be DNS filtering, a friend of mine in Montreal couldn&#8217;t open her own web page with the default DNS setup, while I had no problem from Norway. She added one of the OpenDNS servers to her DNS lookup entries and the site showed up at once.<br />
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		<title>By: Zorg</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-573669</link>
		<author>Zorg</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-573669</guid>
		<description>OldPhart:
If you ping the site, does it take long to look up the DNS, or is the ping </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OldPhart:<br />
If you ping the site, does it take long to look up the DNS, or is the ping</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-570700</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-570700</guid>
		<description>Havvy gave good info and I can again see articles through the RSS feeds. I used No Script long before troubles began without issue. In fact for several years as I am a long time reader of this site. I followed Jon here from his previous site, as it didn't quite seem to fit me. The other site was for indie artists more than for p2p type stuff. 

I have often from time to time been quoted at both sites so evidently something I have to say strikes a responding chord somewhere along the line. 

Thank you Havvy for the clue to once again see articles here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Havvy gave good info and I can again see articles through the RSS feeds. I used No Script long before troubles began without issue. In fact for several years as I am a long time reader of this site. I followed Jon here from his previous site, as it didn&#8217;t quite seem to fit me. The other site was for indie artists more than for p2p type stuff. </p>
<p>I have often from time to time been quoted at both sites so evidently something I have to say strikes a responding chord somewhere along the line. </p>
<p>Thank you Havvy for the clue to once again see articles here.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-569613</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-569613</guid>
		<description>looks like the beginning of the end of the RIAAs rubbish cases...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like the beginning of the end of the RIAAs rubbish cases&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: OldPhart</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-568313</link>
		<author>OldPhart</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-568313</guid>
		<description>No Script is good, but I migrated to PreBar.  Just wish I could block those annoying "surveys"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Script is good, but I migrated to PreBar.  Just wish I could block those annoying &#8220;surveys&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-568201</link>
		<author>Dorothy</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-568201</guid>
		<description>I use NoScript as well, and have never had any problem with slow loading of pages.  Which is a good thing, because I am here most days to read that day's news.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use NoScript as well, and have never had any problem with slow loading of pages.  Which is a good thing, because I am here most days to read that day&#8217;s news.  <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: its the other servers</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-568155</link>
		<author>its the other servers</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-568155</guid>
		<description>probably they are fucking the loading thingy since there are so many in my no script /adblock page overview

suspect "quantserve" and or "intellitext" 
those are forbidden "no scripters" here and for me the page loads flawlessly even over thousand seamiles away from the serverlocation (germany)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>probably they are fucking the loading thingy since there are so many in my no script /adblock page overview</p>
<p>suspect &#8220;quantserve&#8221; and or &#8220;intellitext&#8221;<br />
those are forbidden &#8220;no scripters&#8221; here and for me the page loads flawlessly even over thousand seamiles away from the serverlocation (germany)!</p>
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		<title>By: OldPhart</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-568136</link>
		<author>OldPhart</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-568136</guid>
		<description>As a matter of fact, I also had a delay in opening the article on this web page.  However, I also suspect that what is causing this is not due to my machine on a local level or the remote endpoints.  If I open the page and it stalls, rather than let it time out and resend the packets required to open the article, I merely click on the "Stop" icon to freeze the current processes and then hit "reload" and the page immediately downloads.  Why this happens?  I don't have the understand the code sent back and forth, but the handshake between both ends is being interupted somewhere in the middle on first attempt.  It is annoying at times, however the content I read here is worth putting up with that interference/interception.  As a matter of fact, the reaction of my peers to these articles is at times of more importance than the article iteself.  I get a sinking feeling as I watch the corrupt manipulate what is left of our legal system decimating what is left of our rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a matter of fact, I also had a delay in opening the article on this web page.  However, I also suspect that what is causing this is not due to my machine on a local level or the remote endpoints.  If I open the page and it stalls, rather than let it time out and resend the packets required to open the article, I merely click on the &#8220;Stop&#8221; icon to freeze the current processes and then hit &#8220;reload&#8221; and the page immediately downloads.  Why this happens?  I don&#8217;t have the understand the code sent back and forth, but the handshake between both ends is being interupted somewhere in the middle on first attempt.  It is annoying at times, however the content I read here is worth putting up with that interference/interception.  As a matter of fact, the reaction of my peers to these articles is at times of more importance than the article iteself.  I get a sinking feeling as I watch the corrupt manipulate what is left of our legal system decimating what is left of our rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Havvy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-568077</link>
		<author>Havvy</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-568077</guid>
		<description>Try using an RSS feed.  Come here only when you want to read comments/post your own.
--
Jon:  Cheers with the website, but the legalese confuses me in the quote.  Legalese doesn't usually confuse me, so please explain more in detail next time a document similar to this comes up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try using an RSS feed.  Come here only when you want to read comments/post your own.<br />
&#8211;<br />
Jon:  Cheers with the website, but the legalese confuses me in the quote.  Legalese doesn&#8217;t usually confuse me, so please explain more in detail next time a document similar to this comes up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-568017</link>
		<author>Jon</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-568017</guid>
		<description>"Normally, almost no article goes by without me looking at it and reading it. Now almost no articles are read because of the lengthy delay in getting to see the material."

I'm sorry about that. I have no idea why it's happening but for a while, quite a few weeks back, delays were affecting me too. 

Bob (who does the tech work) couldn't find anything wrong with the site, and suddenly, things returned to normal and have been OK ever since.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Normally, almost no article goes by without me looking at it and reading it. Now almost no articles are read because of the lengthy delay in getting to see the material.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry about that. I have no idea why it&#8217;s happening but for a while, quite a few weeks back, delays were affecting me too. </p>
<p>Bob (who does the tech work) couldn&#8217;t find anything wrong with the site, and suddenly, things returned to normal and have been OK ever since.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-567753</link>
		<author>Hippie</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-567753</guid>
		<description>opening page .. less than 3 seconds.
Opening article .. about 1 second.

 I don't know what your problem is, but it is not the site.
 ( this is a 1ghz machine with 512 mb of ram running winxp ).

 buh byee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>opening page .. less than 3 seconds.<br />
Opening article .. about 1 second.</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t know what your problem is, but it is not the site.<br />
 ( this is a 1ghz machine with 512 mb of ram running winxp ).</p>
<p> buh byee</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-567721</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-567721</guid>
		<description>Go figure, I came to this site one more time, trying to get a chance to read articles that are no longer possible to do because of the time lag involved with opening and posting pages.

Opening page time to front page...less than 6 seconds
Opening time to article...........more than 5 minutes
posting time for responce.........no time can be counted, too fast

Opening other sites....no time can be counted in opening time, too fast.

I made the above reply, intending to once again show how slow the opening speeds have become since The Planet incident. As you can see, the opening time to this article exceeded 5 minutes while I surfed other sites where no troubles exist with lag and delay. I miss this site but the usual of an opening time of 5 minutes per page and usually a responce time of longer when posting an article eats so much time, that I've begun to seek the sources of the articles and info myself and come out with a times savings over viewing it here that this site. That's a shame as I have been here quite a while and have grown to really like the site. But the delay times are just too much when you consider there might be 20 articles on the front page. 

Normally, almost no article goes by without me looking at it and reading it. Now almost no articles are read because of the lengthy delay in getting to see the material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go figure, I came to this site one more time, trying to get a chance to read articles that are no longer possible to do because of the time lag involved with opening and posting pages.</p>
<p>Opening page time to front page&#8230;less than 6 seconds<br />
Opening time to article&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..more than 5 minutes<br />
posting time for responce&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;no time can be counted, too fast</p>
<p>Opening other sites&#8230;.no time can be counted in opening time, too fast.</p>
<p>I made the above reply, intending to once again show how slow the opening speeds have become since The Planet incident. As you can see, the opening time to this article exceeded 5 minutes while I surfed other sites where no troubles exist with lag and delay. I miss this site but the usual of an opening time of 5 minutes per page and usually a responce time of longer when posting an article eats so much time, that I&#8217;ve begun to seek the sources of the articles and info myself and come out with a times savings over viewing it here that this site. That&#8217;s a shame as I have been here quite a while and have grown to really like the site. But the delay times are just too much when you consider there might be 20 articles on the front page. </p>
<p>Normally, almost no article goes by without me looking at it and reading it. Now almost no articles are read because of the lengthy delay in getting to see the material.</p>
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		<title>By: OldPhart</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-567718</link>
		<author>OldPhart</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-567718</guid>
		<description>This means, in effect, that we have a judge that is very aware of the actions of the RIAA.  The RIAA files for expedited discovery, realize they do not have cause, and then voluntarily dismiss their case.  All the while, it causes much distress to those that are guilty as well as those that have nothing to do with the actions implied.  I think this judge is one of the first to show an understanding of how the RIAA has subverted the legal system to their own end.  Like tossing a stick of dynomite into a pond to see if there are any fish to go fishing, the RIAA cares not about the destruction caused by their actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This means, in effect, that we have a judge that is very aware of the actions of the RIAA.  The RIAA files for expedited discovery, realize they do not have cause, and then voluntarily dismiss their case.  All the while, it causes much distress to those that are guilty as well as those that have nothing to do with the actions implied.  I think this judge is one of the first to show an understanding of how the RIAA has subverted the legal system to their own end.  Like tossing a stick of dynomite into a pond to see if there are any fish to go fishing, the RIAA cares not about the destruction caused by their actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-567709</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-567709</guid>
		<description>The days of hollering that one's guilty without proof is coming to an end. Enough hanky panky has been shown in the past along with legal shinnagins that would not be allowed in any other court, to make the cases of infringement to look like pure abuse on the part of the RIAA. When they win they want paid now. When they lose, they wanna drag their feet, raise every objection they can, including some I am sure they know before they raise them that won't float, and to put every road block in the way to drag it out, at the cost of the courts time as well as the victims. 

Dropping cases when it looks like it is going bad for them, trying to stick the accused with the bill which would never have been a bill had not the RIAA and gang had the sense to even look at evidence beyond what they want to see; the whole thing as left a distaste in both the courts of the land as well as the public eye. This was one reason why they quit crowing about sue'em alls in national news and went to local news to do it. Less bad publicity from the national eye and less black eyes on the PR front. 

This will continue till the legal system gets a sense of just how bad this group of thugs is taking advantage of statutory penalties, never designed for the non profit trading of material but rather for those selling for profit their works. I congratulate the major labels in turning the public away from their products and towards gaming and indies which are showing profits couldn't be better and with a public that looks at them with the thought of it being a better value for the buck than the majors with all their conditions, what buyers can and can not do with the product they bought and the high cost of that product compared to other items not of major label control. 

They are doing what no one else can do for them. Alienating an entire generation of future potential customers, ensuring they won't have a future with the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The days of hollering that one&#8217;s guilty without proof is coming to an end. Enough hanky panky has been shown in the past along with legal shinnagins that would not be allowed in any other court, to make the cases of infringement to look like pure abuse on the part of the RIAA. When they win they want paid now. When they lose, they wanna drag their feet, raise every objection they can, including some I am sure they know before they raise them that won&#8217;t float, and to put every road block in the way to drag it out, at the cost of the courts time as well as the victims. </p>
<p>Dropping cases when it looks like it is going bad for them, trying to stick the accused with the bill which would never have been a bill had not the RIAA and gang had the sense to even look at evidence beyond what they want to see; the whole thing as left a distaste in both the courts of the land as well as the public eye. This was one reason why they quit crowing about sue&#8217;em alls in national news and went to local news to do it. Less bad publicity from the national eye and less black eyes on the PR front. </p>
<p>This will continue till the legal system gets a sense of just how bad this group of thugs is taking advantage of statutory penalties, never designed for the non profit trading of material but rather for those selling for profit their works. I congratulate the major labels in turning the public away from their products and towards gaming and indies which are showing profits couldn&#8217;t be better and with a public that looks at them with the thought of it being a better value for the buck than the majors with all their conditions, what buyers can and can not do with the product they bought and the high cost of that product compared to other items not of major label control. </p>
<p>They are doing what no one else can do for them. Alienating an entire generation of future potential customers, ensuring they won&#8217;t have a future with the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-567463</link>
		<author>Free Thinker</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16296#comment-567463</guid>
		<description>Ok, so it's all a bit legalese and I didn't get all of it, but the main point of this is... that the RIAA are fucked, right?

AWESOME! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so it&#8217;s all a bit legalese and I didn&#8217;t get all of it, but the main point of this is&#8230; that the RIAA are fucked, right?</p>
<p>AWESOME! <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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