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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16347/comment-page-1#comment-589707</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is outrageous. The only thing worse is there are probably rich dumbasses actually willing to pay this amount for an iPhone. Sure, its a sweet gadget, but I would rather buy a decent used car or a vacation.

God...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is outrageous. The only thing worse is there are probably rich dumbasses actually willing to pay this amount for an iPhone. Sure, its a sweet gadget, but I would rather buy a decent used car or a vacation.</p>
<p>God&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16347/comment-page-1#comment-583891</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ What

I dont mind being stuck with a provider for a long term.  Ive been with Telus for 7 years.  My current plan is $45 for voice plan and $30 for Unlimited data plan.  Plus 10 for caller id and voicemail plus taxes and sytem fee. So Im up at 100 bucks anyways.  The one thing that helps is that I dont have a home phone.  I wouldnt have a problem getting an iPhone cept I just hate being like everyone else.  I think Im still one of the few people that dont have an p3 player or iTunes on the computer.</description>
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<p>I dont mind being stuck with a provider for a long term.  Ive been with Telus for 7 years.  My current plan is $45 for voice plan and $30 for Unlimited data plan.  Plus 10 for caller id and voicemail plus taxes and sytem fee. So Im up at 100 bucks anyways.  The one thing that helps is that I dont have a home phone.  I wouldnt have a problem getting an iPhone cept I just hate being like everyone else.  I think Im still one of the few people that dont have an p3 player or iTunes on the computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Cause</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Cause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Industry minister even calls on Bell, Telus to explain new text charges-  


This is not even a new issue but an old one. I firstly could not help but notice that a very significant AMOUNT OF YOUNG PEOPLE USE THE iPHONES AND COMPUTERS STILL, and that as a direct result we now have whole generation of users who clearly do strongly hate the federal government as well as the big corporations for allowing them to be abused again and again. A really Smart move??  for the Conservatives and big Corporations   getting young customers too mad at them now even for life. Certainly not a good, or a great marketing practice for  the Conservatives, the Corporations, even for Industry Minister Jim Prentice MP. The whole fiasco, poor past responses, inactions   now still being poorly thought out ironically  applies now even to to the Conservatives and the Industry Minister himself  now as well.. It all clearly falls in the same category as the Conservative Stockwell Day MP  and his past skidoo antics. 

&quot;Finally Industry Minister Jim Prentice is calling on the chief executive officers of Bell and Telus to meet with him and explain their decision to charge consumers for incoming text messages. Jim Prentice has sent letters to the heads of the two companies, has said the decision to charge consumers without text bundling packages will hurt consumers. The companies must meet with him before Aug. 8. &quot;While I have no desire to interfere with the day-to-day business decisions of two private companies, I do have a duty as minister of industry to protect the interests of the consuming public when necessary,&quot; Prentice said in a statement. &quot;I believe this was a poorly thought out decision.&quot; Under the Corporations  new plans, customers will be charged 15 cents for each incoming text message, including uninvited spam messages. Previously, customers without text plans were only charged for outgoing messages. Customers with a text messaging rate plan or bundle will not be affected by the new charges.&quot;

Hey  let me shout it all to you again and again, as a taxpayer I too always do openly rightfully expect always a  good government, and I rightfully expect the government to do it&#039;s job, including all of it&#039;s ministers, and I rightfully also expect them always to fully to protect the citizens from the Corporations false misleading advertising, price gouging, price fixing, price collusions, bait and switch approach sales marketing approach, and a lot more. The problem also with the industry minister acting now on the iphone text issue while better late than never, is that the same major ISPs have used the same immoral approach on their Internet services as well and to date nothing was , is being done still about that  wrongfully. and this is also still unacceptable.
 
It is also still  interesting how much of the negative complaints rightfully are even coming from Alberta even from the Industries Minister&#039;s own riding, Province too, right from the heart of Conservative supporter country.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2008/07/09/ndp-messaging.html?ref=rss&amp;loomia_si=t0:a16:g2:r5:c0.0764563#articlecomments
 
Here again is how many Canadian consuemrs, citizens do see it as far as the iphones mainly. &quot;Only the person who sends the message should be charged plain and simple. Why should I pay because some spammer sent me a text message that I did not want to receive. If I don&#039;t want to answer my phone, I can simply ignore a call, but a text message from a number I don&#039;t recognize is delivered to my phone whether I want it to be or not.&quot;
 
&quot;Don&#039;t think for one minute that hasn&#039;t been their plan all along - announce it at a high rate, with the intent of &quot;backing off&quot; to a lower rate...and then slowly increase that rate over the next few years once there&#039;s a general acceptance of the practice &quot;
 
&quot;I am loathe to trust a company that changes the terms of my agreement mid-contract. I would like to learn how it is that they are allowed to do this, but if I would like to change the particulars of my contract mid agreement, it is not allowed.  I would like to think that if the terms are changed, shouldn&#039;t the principal agreement holder be notified of the changes, otherwise it be nullified?&quot;
 
&quot;Pay twice for one service.....  I&#039;ll charge a fee to them for writing a cheque to pay my bill&quot;
 
&quot;Clearly it is in the best interest of consumers for their elected representatives to voice their concerns on top of those of the consumers when Canadians are being gouged at almost every turn. Bell and Telus clearly to not have the best interests of their customers in mind, rather as always, they are motivated by greed and profit. &quot;

&quot;Kudo&#039;s to the NDP on this one!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Industry minister even calls on Bell, Telus to explain new text charges-  </p>
<p>This is not even a new issue but an old one. I firstly could not help but notice that a very significant AMOUNT OF YOUNG PEOPLE USE THE iPHONES AND COMPUTERS STILL, and that as a direct result we now have whole generation of users who clearly do strongly hate the federal government as well as the big corporations for allowing them to be abused again and again. A really Smart move??  for the Conservatives and big Corporations   getting young customers too mad at them now even for life. Certainly not a good, or a great marketing practice for  the Conservatives, the Corporations, even for Industry Minister Jim Prentice MP. The whole fiasco, poor past responses, inactions   now still being poorly thought out ironically  applies now even to to the Conservatives and the Industry Minister himself  now as well.. It all clearly falls in the same category as the Conservative Stockwell Day MP  and his past skidoo antics. </p>
<p>&#8220;Finally Industry Minister Jim Prentice is calling on the chief executive officers of Bell and Telus to meet with him and explain their decision to charge consumers for incoming text messages. Jim Prentice has sent letters to the heads of the two companies, has said the decision to charge consumers without text bundling packages will hurt consumers. The companies must meet with him before Aug. 8. &#8220;While I have no desire to interfere with the day-to-day business decisions of two private companies, I do have a duty as minister of industry to protect the interests of the consuming public when necessary,&#8221; Prentice said in a statement. &#8220;I believe this was a poorly thought out decision.&#8221; Under the Corporations  new plans, customers will be charged 15 cents for each incoming text message, including uninvited spam messages. Previously, customers without text plans were only charged for outgoing messages. Customers with a text messaging rate plan or bundle will not be affected by the new charges.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey  let me shout it all to you again and again, as a taxpayer I too always do openly rightfully expect always a  good government, and I rightfully expect the government to do it&#8217;s job, including all of it&#8217;s ministers, and I rightfully also expect them always to fully to protect the citizens from the Corporations false misleading advertising, price gouging, price fixing, price collusions, bait and switch approach sales marketing approach, and a lot more. The problem also with the industry minister acting now on the iphone text issue while better late than never, is that the same major ISPs have used the same immoral approach on their Internet services as well and to date nothing was , is being done still about that  wrongfully. and this is also still unacceptable.</p>
<p>It is also still  interesting how much of the negative complaints rightfully are even coming from Alberta even from the Industries Minister&#8217;s own riding, Province too, right from the heart of Conservative supporter country.<br />
<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2008/07/09/ndp-messaging.html?ref=rss&amp;loomia_si=t0:a16:g2:r5:c0.0764563#articlecomments" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2008/07/09/ndp-messaging.html?ref=rss&amp;loomia_si=t0:a16:g2:r5:c0.0764563#articlecomments</a></p>
<p>Here again is how many Canadian consuemrs, citizens do see it as far as the iphones mainly. &#8220;Only the person who sends the message should be charged plain and simple. Why should I pay because some spammer sent me a text message that I did not want to receive. If I don&#8217;t want to answer my phone, I can simply ignore a call, but a text message from a number I don&#8217;t recognize is delivered to my phone whether I want it to be or not.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t think for one minute that hasn&#8217;t been their plan all along &#8211; announce it at a high rate, with the intent of &#8220;backing off&#8221; to a lower rate&#8230;and then slowly increase that rate over the next few years once there&#8217;s a general acceptance of the practice &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I am loathe to trust a company that changes the terms of my agreement mid-contract. I would like to learn how it is that they are allowed to do this, but if I would like to change the particulars of my contract mid agreement, it is not allowed.  I would like to think that if the terms are changed, shouldn&#8217;t the principal agreement holder be notified of the changes, otherwise it be nullified?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Pay twice for one service&#8230;..  I&#8217;ll charge a fee to them for writing a cheque to pay my bill&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Clearly it is in the best interest of consumers for their elected representatives to voice their concerns on top of those of the consumers when Canadians are being gouged at almost every turn. Bell and Telus clearly to not have the best interests of their customers in mind, rather as always, they are motivated by greed and profit. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Kudo&#8217;s to the NDP on this one!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: What</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16347/comment-page-1#comment-582290</link>
		<dc:creator>What</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jay, don&#039;t forget to add a voice plan and then taxes. You&#039;re still around $80 for everything per month, and you&#039;re still stuck with Rogers for 3 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jay, don&#8217;t forget to add a voice plan and then taxes. You&#8217;re still around $80 for everything per month, and you&#8217;re still stuck with Rogers for 3 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16347/comment-page-1#comment-582272</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 06:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, the title has a comma where a decimal should be, unless the Rogers iPhone costs $613,274 :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, the title has a comma where a decimal should be, unless the Rogers iPhone costs $613,274 <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Simon Mills</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16347/comment-page-1#comment-581460</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thats disgusting! Six THOUSAND dollars!?!?! WTF!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats disgusting! Six THOUSAND dollars!?!?! WTF!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16347/comment-page-1#comment-580423</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rogers has changed the pricing for data because of all the negative feedback.  

&quot;Customers who sign up for the new 3G iPhone from Friday, when the device goes on sale, to Aug. 31 will be offered a $30 per month plan that gives them six gigabytes of data usage -- down from the company&#039;s regular $100 per month plan for six GB.&quot;
http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/business/story.html?id=9fe174e1-9fc0-4711-9c4a-d19afc4655e6</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rogers has changed the pricing for data because of all the negative feedback.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Customers who sign up for the new 3G iPhone from Friday, when the device goes on sale, to Aug. 31 will be offered a $30 per month plan that gives them six gigabytes of data usage &#8212; down from the company&#8217;s regular $100 per month plan for six GB.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/business/story.html?id=9fe174e1-9fc0-4711-9c4a-d19afc4655e6" rel="nofollow">http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/business/story.html?id=9fe174e1-9fc0-4711-9c4a-d19afc4655e6</a></p>
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