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p2pnet news view P2P | Freedom:- The Net —- all of it — should be encrypted, says The Pirate Bay.
So it’s working on a way to, “potentially protect all Internet traffic from prying eyes,” says Janko Roettgers on NewTeeVee, going on:
Still in its early stages, the project is called, ‘Transparent end-to-end encryption for the Internets,’ or IPETEE and tackles encryption, “not on the application level, but on the network level, the aim being that all data exchanged on your PC would be encrypted, regardless of its nature,” TPB co-founder Fredrik Neij (right, aka Tiamo) says in the story.
“Even applications that don’t supporting encryption will be encrypted where possible’,” he told Roettgers.
Neij thought of it when European politicians were, “starting to debate a Europe-wide move to DMCA-like copyright enforcement efforts, which were eventually authorized in the form of the Intellectual Property Rights Enforcement Directive in the spring of 2007,” says the story, going on >>>
“I wanted to come up with something to make it harder for data retention,” said Neij. But he didn’t publish the initial draft proposal until early this month, when the discussion about privacy and surveillance online suddenly became urgent again. The Swedish parliament passed a new law in June that allows a local government agency to snoop on “the telephony, emails, and web traffic of millions of innocent individuals,” as the EFF’s Danny O’Brien put it. Neij promises that his new encryption scheme will be ready before the law takes effect next January.
“The proof-of-concept code will be available both on Windows and Linux,” Neij told Roettgers, but the next step, “would be to make it scalable and available for operations in a server-based environment so that administrators could use IPETEE to protect their users’ web or email transmissions”.
Says NewTeeVee:
“IPETEE could be a big step towards standardizing the encryption of web, email and even VoIP traffic, but it wouldn’t protect against all types of interference. Your ISP could still kill your video downloads via BitTorrent, because newer traffic management solutions can identify P2P transfers by simply looking at the patterns of your uploads and downloads and not at the individual data packets. It could also potentially slow down certain transfers, because it takes time to establish encrypted connections. There might be other flaws in the architecture of the IPETEE system as well, which is why Neij’s team is currently talking to crypto and network experts. But he seemed optimistic that he would have at least a proof of concept implementation ready by the end of the year.”
Of course, “the Pirate Bay folks don’t exactly have a good track record when it comes to following through with their plans,” says the story, adding:
“NewTeeVee alumn Jackson West pointed out back in March that long-planned projects like The Video Bay, the music site PlayBle and a new and secure P2P protocol have yet to be launched, and that’s still true today. Adding an ambitious project like IPETEE to the list doesn’t seem likely to solve that problem, but maybe this time Neij and his crew will overcome their ADD.”
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NewTeeVee - The Pirate Bay Wants to Encrypt the Entire Internet, July 9, 2008
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July 10th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
“Says NewTeeVee: …Of course, ‘the Pirate Bay folks don’t exactly have a good track record when it comes to following through with their plans,’ says the story…”
NewTeeVee is just another business model built around streaming content.
What “Claim to Fame” could anyone there make that would put them in a position to criticize or assess The Pirate Bay’s contributions to the Internet?!
Whether or not The Pirate Bay “follows through” with anything should not be a point. Their efforts have brought a quite a few important internet issues to light - all the time taking a lot of heat from the Entertainment Industry, Governments, etc. If Niej and the gang don’t “follow through” with anything, I still applaud them!
…And, that wouldn’t stop someone with the right resources to “continue the work”, would it?
July 11th, 2008 at 12:19 am
it is time to use Tor to stay anonymous but we need encryption to keep everything private.
July 11th, 2008 at 12:20 am
Me too I aplaud the Pirate Bay.
July 11th, 2008 at 2:44 am
I hope they follow through and it’s wisdom catches on and grows. It’s always bothered me that my ISP and all the hops in between (look up how to do a trace route if you’ve never heard the term “hops” before) can see every forum post and comment I make and know they’re from me. I’ve always wondered, considering the origins of the internet, why all communications are sent/received in the clear and not encrypted to begin with. Encrypting ALL traffic just makes good common sense, always has. Sure, it has the potential to be abused and likely will be (what new technology isn’t?), but privacy for every man woman and child on this planet far outweighs such concerns in my opinion. The only folks who won’t like the idea of encryption will be the ones logging all of your comments, forum posts, e-mails, VoIP calls, IRC chat, messenger chats, p2p traffic, web/ftp downloads, etc. They’ve been doing it for a long time now and are used to knowing every aspect of your life, who wouldn’t want to give up such power? You would be deluded to think it’s been otherwise all this time. Fight the powers that be and start using TOR, True Crypt and GPG today!
July 11th, 2008 at 10:29 am
Quote - “Sure, it has the potential to be abused and likely will be (what new technology isn’t?), but privacy for every man woman and child on this planet far outweighs such concerns in my opinion”
Just so full of self righteousness arent you , let paedos roam free (totally) just so you can have your self righteous whinging covered up .
The real world is that no one gives a flying monkeys , use logic instead instead of wearing a silver foil hat for your sad cut and paste argument , just for one second work out how much information is made every minute let alone every day and even with sifting software , how much of a task it is . Its a criminals dream , when you wake up and grow up to the real world problems of terrorism , cyber/real world criminals , paedos and the like then come back with a real mans discussion you little boy .
To the obvious back posters of “youre the one whos naive” , Im not the one protecting the rights of criminals , you are .
July 11th, 2008 at 11:14 am
@ readers write
ah so your for legislation to control guns then?
July 12th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
^^ who’s the naive one really? If the powers that be must rely on internet spying to catch a few crooks then there’s something fishy going on. The fact is that in the past it wasn’t deemed necessary to trample on and invade the personal lives of all in order to catch criminals, and neither is it necessary today, just because modern technology makes it easy to do so. That’s not freedom, that’s KGB oppression. The “increased” threat of terrorism is just another pretense to do so, along with pedophilia. The media cartels use the same pretense in order to shut down file sharing, when in reality they care about nothing but selfish wealth. Since ISPs are in a position to do so, they could filter out porn if they chose to. But since the internet was founded on porn and star trek, that’s not likely to happen, as it comprises the biggest part of data transfer.