Comments on: Bell Canada: is a new uprising nigh? http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421 p2pnet.net - reader powered Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:11:09 -0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Insider http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421/comment-page-1#comment-691942 Insider Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:21:23 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421#comment-691942 As an insider for many years, Bell is beyond repair, short of a major surgery, unqualified individuals are spending many millions on equipment that does not work, and no one above knows any better, back stapping and theft of credits is rampant, it will have to get worse, much worse before it'll get better, George or Not, no quick fixes here, the damage is simply too severe, Teachers! are you listening! As an insider for many years, Bell is beyond repair, short of a major surgery, unqualified individuals are spending many millions on equipment that does not work, and no one above knows any better, back stapping and theft of credits is rampant, it will have to get worse, much worse before it’ll get better, George or Not, no quick fixes here, the damage is simply too severe, Teachers! are you listening!

]]> By: Rural Orphan http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421/comment-page-1#comment-619513 Rural Orphan Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:17:55 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421#comment-619513 Re Deferral Accounts, I believe that Bell Canada is dragging its feet since the Federal Court of Appeals ruled (in March) they have to folllow the Telecom Decisions 2006-9 and 2008-1 to spend the last sums in the deferral accounts. The CRTC agreed to delay the deadline for a roll-out plan until the decision was taken at the FCA. They also indicated that the CRTC would then issue new instructions concerning the roll-out procedures to be followed, i.e. a timetable for specific locations. To my knowledge the CRTC has NOT followed up on the FCA ruling so Bell is not rocking the boat and those of us beyond DSL distance (but with good lines of sight to cell towers for potential WiMax) in the rural areas are being penalized by the Department that is supposed to be looking out for our interests, or so it seems. By the way, my underserviced Municipality, Dunham, Quebec, has been judged as without sufficient competition to be deregulated and so we stay under the direct supervision of the CRTC. My suggestion to the CRTC is simply...DO something. Re Deferral Accounts, I believe that Bell Canada is dragging its feet since the Federal Court of Appeals ruled (in March) they have to folllow the Telecom Decisions 2006-9 and 2008-1 to spend the last sums in the deferral accounts. The CRTC agreed to delay the deadline for a roll-out plan until the decision was taken at the FCA. They also indicated that the CRTC would then issue new instructions concerning the roll-out procedures to be followed, i.e. a timetable for specific locations. To my knowledge the CRTC has NOT followed up on the FCA ruling so Bell is not rocking the boat and those of us beyond DSL distance (but with good lines of sight to cell towers for potential WiMax) in the rural areas are being penalized by the Department that is supposed to be looking out for our interests, or so it seems.
By the way, my underserviced Municipality, Dunham, Quebec, has been judged as without sufficient competition to be deregulated and so we stay under the direct supervision of the CRTC.
My suggestion to the CRTC is simply…DO something.

]]> By: Ottawa Gal http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421/comment-page-1#comment-612055 Ottawa Gal Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:19:20 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421#comment-612055 @KChan If i were to take a guess on the end game, its control of the wholesaler, control of the Net and a fight to control IP services (cell, and TV included). I can go into "assumed" details on many points, but it would all be an assumption. This would make an interesting topic/article if I can get a couple of ISP's together and discuss it. But in the end its control of the network and IP services, which is the money maker. @KChan

If i were to take a guess on the end game, its control of the wholesaler, control of the Net and a fight to control IP services (cell, and TV included).

I can go into “assumed” details on many points, but it would all be an assumption.

This would make an interesting topic/article if I can get a couple of ISP’s together and discuss it.

But in the end its control of the network and IP services, which is the money maker.

]]> By: ottawa gal http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421/comment-page-1#comment-610145 ottawa gal Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:47:51 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421#comment-610145 The telco's already got 650-million dollars from the "deferral account" to be used to bring broadband to rural area's. By bringing braodband to more area's they indeed did use this 650-million dollars (which came from your pocket BTW) for the increased capacity. Don't be fooled and don't let them play you with their spin on things. 650-million, think about it. Add some federal and provencial incentive to that too. THATS A LOTTA MONEY. No capacity? Capacity issues? 5% of the users causing problems so great that it brings all broadband to a screeching halt? My butt. What I want to know is where and how this 650+ million dollars was spent. check PAIC's site for info on the deferral account http://www.piac.ca use their search funstion to search for "deferral". The telco’s already got 650-million dollars from the “deferral account” to be used to bring broadband to rural area’s. By bringing braodband to more area’s they indeed did use this 650-million dollars (which came from your pocket BTW) for the increased capacity. Don’t be fooled and don’t let them play you with their spin on things.

650-million, think about it. Add some federal and provencial incentive to that too.

THATS A LOTTA MONEY.

No capacity?
Capacity issues?
5% of the users causing problems so great that it brings all broadband to a screeching halt?

My butt.

What I want to know is where and how this 650+ million dollars was spent.

check PAIC’s site for info on the deferral account
http://www.piac.ca use their search funstion to search for “deferral”.

]]> By: KChan http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421/comment-page-1#comment-606114 KChan Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:08:37 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421#comment-606114 Thanks OttawaGal, You get all the good bits about Bell... But really what is Bell's end game in this? Between throttling, capping their retail users and pissing off their wholesalers; what are they up to? I bet Bell is looking for a hand out from the government, say from the money from the spectrum sales. This money would to pay for upgrades which should have been done a long time ago. As hostages, they will use the ISPs, their debts and Net Neutrality. I could see the meeting at Industry Canada. "Yes, internet is crap, but look we don't have any money for updates, so we have to throttle everyone, plus we have to carry all theses ISP, we need more money...." And even if they don't get the money from the feds, they will just choke to ISP off until there is no competition left in Canada... Okay, I'll get my tin foil hat on now.... Thanks OttawaGal, You get all the good bits about Bell…
But really what is Bell’s end game in this?

Between throttling, capping their retail users and pissing off their wholesalers; what are they up to?
I bet Bell is looking for a hand out from the government, say from the money from the spectrum sales. This money would to pay for upgrades which should have been done a long time ago. As hostages, they will use the ISPs, their debts and Net Neutrality. I could see the meeting at Industry Canada. “Yes, internet is crap, but look we don’t have any money for updates, so we have to throttle everyone, plus we have to carry all theses ISP, we need more money….”

And even if they don’t get the money from the feds, they will just choke to ISP off until there is no competition left in Canada… Okay, I’ll get my tin foil hat on now….

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421/comment-page-1#comment-601799 Reader's Write Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:49:34 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421#comment-601799 Dept -> Debt, btw. Sorry, I'm a little anal. Good article, btw, I'll definitely stay tuned. Keep it up, Ottawa Gal! Raise Hell! Dept -> Debt, btw. Sorry, I’m a little anal.

Good article, btw, I’ll definitely stay tuned. Keep it up, Ottawa Gal! Raise Hell!

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421/comment-page-1#comment-601672 Reader's Write Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:59:02 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16421#comment-601672 Cope is also going to slash 2000 Bell managers in the comming days/weeks. Cope is also going to slash 2000 Bell managers in the comming days/weeks.

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