G5 thoughts – and more
p2pnet.net News:- Everything Apple is expensive. But nonetheless, lots people wouldn’t have anything else.
Our new, cool(er) G5 item provoked a lot of comment – 44 posts as we put this together.
But not everyone thinks Macs are all there is to life.
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Wow! Another new FASTER Apple. Maybe Apple should look to serve its customer base as well as it is in bringing a new improved computer every couple of months. Every single time they create a new technology the benefits are always at the very top and only for new users. And anyone who has older Apple technology, is left out.
I am a Graphic artist and I used to be one of those ‘Apple is the best, and widows suck!’ people. Had a Performa, with the top 603 chip technology. Moved up to the affordable Apple: the Motorola, Starrmax with the 604e chip (Back when Apple licensed its operating system.)
Then the new G3, then the duel G4 400mhz. Needed to add more newer faster peripherals so I moved up the Quicksilver dual 800mhz with 1G RAM, oh the speed was going to be great! Right? Wrong! Due to Apple insisting that the new Macs boot only in OSX no more 9.3 for me. SO I had problems running all my programs in OSX, and the speed boost was taken over by OSX, in other words the programs ran the same if not slower for me. UPGRADED ALL MY PROGRAMS TO RUN IN OSX! Expensive! Then came Jaguar, the new improver OSX that can manage both the G4 chips.
Oh! But here is the new Mac native Font manager, and Safari the Apple web browser, great! Right? Wrong again! Microsoft stopped supporting the Mac version of Internet Explorer, the one I have been using for years now. Thanks Apple! Then Extensis stopped supporting its font management tool for Mac. Ok, no problem, BUT! The Apple font management tool Sucks! And it gives me the eternal Beach Ball of death.
So the OSX is the most stable system ever made right? Sure, the OSX never crashes, but most of my applications do! And guess what? I lost quite a bit of my work that way on an APPLE!?
So I had a client who needed work done on a Windows PC.
I tried the old Apple is the best routine, but to no avail. I went and looked until I saw what I wanted, A top of the line SONY VAIO 2.5Ghz with all the bells and whistles. Price? 1400.00, Next thing I know I’m loving this machine and my Apple is collecting dust next to my (half the price, and have much more things in it) SONY. After Apple shared its technology with Microsoft Windows XP is the best OS I have used to date.
New G5? No thanks Mac! I had it with you.
P.S. And get rid of that annoying bar at the bottom (or side) I’m sure as usual all Apples customers requests will go unanswered.
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s an Electrical/Computer engineer I have only one thing to say to this madness … GET SOME WORK DONE!!! No one is going to use a G5 or dual Intel config when its going to push them to the limit in high end research applications. They use supercomputers or even more common now clusters of 1 ghz machines(remember, researchers dont care about doing 20 sec calcs in 5, theyre worried about getting multihour or day processes done faster to let them get more work done). In fact, in the real world, most engineers use junky slow Sun machines because thats what all the good software is being written for these days.(mainly to prevent code stealing!) Real professionals would rather blow their budget on new test equipment than stupid computers that let me solve a mathematica integral in 2 seconds instead of 10.(and hey, waiting for these calcs used to be the closest thing to a break i got!) In the end, web pages will load just about as fast on any new computer, and thats all most people use it for anyway.(i’m guessing the benchmarks for IRC, ICQ, AIM, Word etc are about there too) Anyone who cant wait an extra 10 minutes or so for video encoding must be a very important person(Prime Minister of some country im guessing)
As for gamers, go ahead and blow your money on 300 fps gameplay on your 60 hz new LCD monitor(and seeing what percent of those glorious frames?). Don’t worry, by wasting time, you leave more jobs for the rest of us. Get a life people.
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I do a lot of video processing at home. I used to do all my work on a single processor G4 (450mzh) but recently moved to a dual processor G5 (1.8ghz)
The performance difference is nothing short of astounding. To fully produce a 2 minute clip on the G4 used to take almost 10 hours of time from start to finish (including scene selection, music selection and synching etc). Much of the 10 hours was occupied by rendering, and re-rendering the various layers of video as I edited, changed transitions, layered new video tracks etc.
Since my move to the Dual Processor G5, I can now produce a two minute clip, including all the same work processes as before, in less than two hours. The major reason for that is the fact that I no longer have to wait on the video to render, it now happens in real time.
I’m not a vip or the Prime Minister of some country anywhere, but the extra performance of the G5 has significantly affected my work production regardless. Time is still very valuable to me and the G5 is the best computing choice I have made to date.





June 11th, 2004 at 1:49 am
Apples main claim to fame is less of a reality now than it was 2-3 years ago, the coming of age of AMD chips and the continuous economies of scale enjoyed by the PC have eroded any great difference in performance/price.
It’s only natural for those Apple huggers to not want to accept the new reality, just as they’re unwilling to accept that the mighty BSD hybrid now has, and probably always did have, exploits…personally I found it highly amusing how Apple handled that latest exploit, not fully admiting to the fact that it existed but issuing a patch anyways, heh, seems a perfection reflection of it’s user base.
June 14th, 2004 at 7:36 pm
More of this pointing out the sliver in your brother’s eye while ignoring the plank in your own.
They find one exploit in OSX and all of a sudden every ‘Dozer out there is going “See I told you so”.
Give me a break. If they don’t find one hole a week in Windows XP the IT industry would lay off another 10,000 geeks.
Remember Beta and VHS? Just because VHS became the format of choice in no way made it better. It was simply cheaper and therefore became more popular and now it’s dead. All hail DVD.
So Dozers, Gates the great shepherd is calling you to the slaughter, go on back to doing what the other sheep do…..Baaaa…..Baaaaa….Baaaaa.