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Phuk BuckCherry

'Honestly, we hate it when this s*** happens, because we want our FANS to have any new songs first.'p2pnet news view Music  | P2P:- BuckCherry found out their latest single had leaked on BitTorrent.

But, “they didn’t try to cover this up, or take the file down,” posts Ernesto in TorrentFreak.

“No,” he says. “Instead, they issued a press release, where they stated:

” ‘Honestly, we hate it when this s*** happens, because we want our FANS to have any new songs firs’t.”

That was strange, Ernesto goes on, “Not only because their label, Atlantic Records, is known to release (and spam) tracks for free on BitTorrent sites, but also because the press release was more about promoting the band than the actual leak.”

He continues»»»

Without any hard evidence, we suggested that this leak may have been set up to get some free promotion and publicity, which BuckCherry seems to need.

Out of curiosity, we decided to follow this up, to see if this was indeed the case. With some help of a user in the community, we tracked down some of the initial seeders of the torrent.

A BitTorrent site insider was kind enough to help us out, because BitTorrent is not supposed to be “abused” like this, and confirmed that the IP of one of the early seeders did indeed belong to the person who uploaded the torrent file.

It turns out that the uploader, a New York resident, had only uploaded one torrent, the BuckCherry track. When we entered the IP-address into the Wiki-scanner, we found out that the person in question had edited the BuckCherry wikipedia entry, and added the name of the band manager to another page.

This confirmed our suspicions, but it was not quite enough, since it could be an overly obsessed fan (if they have fans). So, we decided to send the band manager, Josh Klemme - who happens to live in New York - an email to ask for his opinion on our findings. Klemme, replied to our email within a few hours, and surprisingly enough his IP-address was the same as the uploader.

Unfortunately Klemme only replied once, and ignored all further requests to comment on this issue. However, the press release, sent out by Atlantic Records and BuckCherry, seems to be a promotional stunt. It could be that the manager acted on his own, and that the band and the record label were not not in on this, but that’s less plausible.

Klemme has been caught with his pants down, and he will probably think twice before he tries to pull off a stunt like this again.

A song doesn’t leak by itself and pirates don’t have some sort of superhuman ability to get their hands on pre-release material. No, most leaked movies, TV-shows and albums come from the inside so blaming pirates is useless.

Of course, it’s great that BuckCherry can get some free promotion for the band using BitTorrent, and we encourage everyone to promote their band or movie via this great system too. But wouldn’t it be more constructive if bands embraced the technology and admitted it, instead of playing the injured party and giving the protocol a bad image, just to boost their own? There’s a great opportunity here, don’t waste it.

Stay tuned.

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11 Responses to “Phuk BuckCherry”

  1. Reader's Write Says:

    “if they have fans”.

    No comment.

  2. Havvy Says:

    …they have many fans and are very popular.

  3. Jon Says:

    So does Metallica ;)

    Cheers!

  4. Coconut Says:

    I am a fan

  5. Wikieditor2008 Says:

    or indiana gregg. Quote from the google result:

    Indiana Gregg - [ Diese Seite übersetzen ]
    Indiana has had over a million plays on myspace and is approaching the 1million visits mark to both her indianagregg.com and her myspace site! …
    www.indianagregg.com/ - 29k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten

    Oh, of course don’t forget the 250000 downloads!
    Very popular and many fans!

    ( Just wondering who had allegedly downloaded her album! All the sockpuppets she employs? :-P )

  6. Reader's Write Says:

    “A song doesn’t leak by itself and pirates don’t have some sort of superhuman ability to get their hands on pre-release material. No, most leaked movies, TV-shows and albums come from the inside so blaming pirates is useless.”

    LMAO! Once again I am reminded of that scene from Fight Club where Tyler Durden says to the police chief:

    “Hi. You’re going to call off your rigorous investigation. You’re going to publicly state that there is no underground group. Or… these guys are going to take your balls. They’re going to send one to the New York Times, one to the LA Times press-release style. Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not… fuck with us.”

    This is a simple and inescapable fact for big business, one they seem to have trouble comprehending. It really isn’t hard to see why stuff gets leaked as often as it does. The vast majority of the file sharing public either work within the various entertainment industries as employees or are consumers of the products they produce, often times both. Because everything and everyone is so tightly intertwined socially and familiarly, it’s no surprise at all that the rich big business fat cats end up stuck forever chasing their own tail. Anyone with half a brain can clearly see how useless of an endeavor that is, but still they try and in the process continue to make more and more enemies.

    In the end it is the general public that will decide what is immoral and what is not, weighing both sides of the equation and choosing accordingly, and like always it is that same public who truly wields all the real power. Instead of adapting to a new technological era the entertainment industry chose instead to lobby the government for new laws, but as history has shown many times over you can’t outlaw human behavior and expect to succeed. While the future may look somewhat muddy right now, I guarantee that in the end it will be the industry that is going to sincerely regret all the choices they’ve made in the early 21st century and not the general public, especially now that we’re slowly seeing those in the field of law begin to take a genuine interest in understanding all the computer and network technologies which are oft at the heart of most copyright debates, as well as an interest in how much of copyright law is quickly becoming outdated and needs to be rewritten. Remember also that the children of today are the people who will be running the country tomorrow, and that muddy future becomes a whole lot clearer.

  7. Reader's Write Says:

    Said by Havvy:

    “…they have many fans and are very popular.”

    Correction. They HAD fans. Not any more after this.

  8. Reader's Write Says:

    One look at that phag creep is to puke. Shoulda stuck with Chuck

  9. Rekrul Says:

    ”‘Honestly, we hate it when this s*** happens, because we want our FANS to have any new songs firs’t.”

    In other words, their fans don’t use BitTorrent?

  10. Reader's Write Says:

    This is really funny. But damn it all, they’re so damn catchy with their songs.

  11. Reader's Write Says:

    hahaha FAIL!!!

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