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		<title>By: cainy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16709/comment-page-1#comment-737128</link>
		<dc:creator>cainy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disabled the killswitch via SSH, thank god for the dev team and there amazing box of tricks, not having apple snooping around my device as they see fit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disabled the killswitch via SSH, thank god for the dev team and there amazing box of tricks, not having apple snooping around my device as they see fit</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16709/comment-page-1#comment-697824</link>
		<dc:creator>Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; We have police to catch and courts to punish horse thieves, because these are corrective actions. If there were no horses or thieves, there would be no need for the laws. &quot;

 Yes we do.
 The difference.

 Due Process.

 Whether the control is before OR after isn&#039;t necessarily the issue.
 It&#039;s the lack of due process, with Apple, msoft, or any corporate entity
 acting as judge, jury, and executioner without oversight or Due Process.
 Apple, or ANY other corporation WILL misuse features like this for their
 own benefit, without the programmer ( or customer ) having any recourse
 or any say in the matter.

 This will be abused by Apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; We have police to catch and courts to punish horse thieves, because these are corrective actions. If there were no horses or thieves, there would be no need for the laws. &#8221;</p>
<p> Yes we do.<br />
 The difference.</p>
<p> Due Process.</p>
<p> Whether the control is before OR after isn&#8217;t necessarily the issue.<br />
 It&#8217;s the lack of due process, with Apple, msoft, or any corporate entity<br />
 acting as judge, jury, and executioner without oversight or Due Process.<br />
 Apple, or ANY other corporation WILL misuse features like this for their<br />
 own benefit, without the programmer ( or customer ) having any recourse<br />
 or any say in the matter.</p>
<p> This will be abused by Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey D. Luffy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16709/comment-page-1#comment-695082</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey D. Luffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buy DRM crud = walk into prison shower, drop soap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buy DRM crud = walk into prison shower, drop soap.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16709/comment-page-1#comment-694522</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make up your minds, people. 

Do you want Apple to have dictatorial control BEFORE or AFTER an application is offered to the public? Control BEFORE would force Apple to vet every application and decide what can be sold online. Apple doesn&#039;t have the employees necessary to do that. It isn&#039;t as though Apple is making a bundle off of selling Music or Apps.

Moreover, I could hear the cries of &quot;Censorship!&quot; from developers if Apple did that. 

Control AFTER allows people the freedom to choose, at their own risk. If Apple allows the developers the freedom to post their Apps then some of the Apps will prove unsatisfactory. Some Apps will be malicious and steal your private data.  Some will be overpriced. Others will just be rotten, get a bad reputation and never be sold. Some applications will break State or Federal laws. 

A mechanism is necessary to control that. Developers won&#039;t invest the time and effort to make &quot;good applications&quot; unless they can profit from it.

What Apple wants is an orderly market. This means one that mostly polices itself. But, setting up such a market is difficult, since it is always done through trial and error. There will be people on the sidelines constantly saying, &quot;Apple should do this! Apple should do that!&quot; If we are to have freedom, then Apple needs to do the minimum and allow the market to say where the breaks are.

This means that people have to get burned, swindled and disappointed before the market mechanisms are created. We have laws against horse thieves, because horses have been stolen. We have police to catch and courts to punish horse thieves, because these are corrective actions. If there were no horses or thieves, there would be no need for the laws.

This is a brand new market. Apple is right in allowing the App Store the freedom to act. But, Apple needs to promote standards for developers and customers to follow. They are simply a statements of, &quot;If you do this--your application will get jerked.&quot;

Of course, the time to set up those standards is beforehand, but the standards will evolve as time goes on. This is an imperfect world, folks. And Steve Jobs is a merchant, not God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make up your minds, people. </p>
<p>Do you want Apple to have dictatorial control BEFORE or AFTER an application is offered to the public? Control BEFORE would force Apple to vet every application and decide what can be sold online. Apple doesn&#8217;t have the employees necessary to do that. It isn&#8217;t as though Apple is making a bundle off of selling Music or Apps.</p>
<p>Moreover, I could hear the cries of &#8220;Censorship!&#8221; from developers if Apple did that. </p>
<p>Control AFTER allows people the freedom to choose, at their own risk. If Apple allows the developers the freedom to post their Apps then some of the Apps will prove unsatisfactory. Some Apps will be malicious and steal your private data.  Some will be overpriced. Others will just be rotten, get a bad reputation and never be sold. Some applications will break State or Federal laws. </p>
<p>A mechanism is necessary to control that. Developers won&#8217;t invest the time and effort to make &#8220;good applications&#8221; unless they can profit from it.</p>
<p>What Apple wants is an orderly market. This means one that mostly polices itself. But, setting up such a market is difficult, since it is always done through trial and error. There will be people on the sidelines constantly saying, &#8220;Apple should do this! Apple should do that!&#8221; If we are to have freedom, then Apple needs to do the minimum and allow the market to say where the breaks are.</p>
<p>This means that people have to get burned, swindled and disappointed before the market mechanisms are created. We have laws against horse thieves, because horses have been stolen. We have police to catch and courts to punish horse thieves, because these are corrective actions. If there were no horses or thieves, there would be no need for the laws.</p>
<p>This is a brand new market. Apple is right in allowing the App Store the freedom to act. But, Apple needs to promote standards for developers and customers to follow. They are simply a statements of, &#8220;If you do this&#8211;your application will get jerked.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, the time to set up those standards is beforehand, but the standards will evolve as time goes on. This is an imperfect world, folks. And Steve Jobs is a merchant, not God.</p>
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		<title>By: Dude From Finland</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16709/comment-page-1#comment-693101</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude From Finland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long till someone hacks that? Give it a month? Or two weeks? And then they succefully reach into peoples phones and pull it. Oh Steve what have you done? Oh and btw is it 100% foolproof? No memoryleks and/or crash and/or lock capabilities? Only to remotely turn off the &quot;malicious&quot; software?

Al - It&#039;s true that Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft control theirs software but there is an easy solution to that problem. Unplug thy system. The phone kinda needs the network to work but I can play GTA IV offline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long till someone hacks that? Give it a month? Or two weeks? And then they succefully reach into peoples phones and pull it. Oh Steve what have you done? Oh and btw is it 100% foolproof? No memoryleks and/or crash and/or lock capabilities? Only to remotely turn off the &#8220;malicious&#8221; software?</p>
<p>Al &#8211; It&#8217;s true that Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft control theirs software but there is an easy solution to that problem. Unplug thy system. The phone kinda needs the network to work but I can play GTA IV offline.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16709/comment-page-1#comment-691892</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real question is how do you feel about Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft controlling all of the software and games that are available for your hand held and console gaming devices. If you don&#039;t like closed system devices, buy open system devices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is how do you feel about Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft controlling all of the software and games that are available for your hand held and console gaming devices. If you don&#8217;t like closed system devices, buy open system devices.</p>
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		<title>By: Silly Ratfaced Git</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16709/comment-page-1#comment-691535</link>
		<dc:creator>Silly Ratfaced Git</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am certainly not surprised that Saint Steve is a firm believer in closing the barn door after the horses have fled.

I think that they fled because, like me, they prefer a &#039;reach around&#039; to a &#039;reach into.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am certainly not surprised that Saint Steve is a firm believer in closing the barn door after the horses have fled.</p>
<p>I think that they fled because, like me, they prefer a &#8216;reach around&#8217; to a &#8216;reach into.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16709/comment-page-1#comment-691033</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man I can finally sleep at night knowing that Steve Jobs is making sure I don&#039;t have a rouge application on my iphone :)
Actually I don&#039;t have one cause they are crap like everything else made by apple err probably made by 3 year old kids in a third world country in a factory that doesn&#039;t seem to show up on Google Earth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man I can finally sleep at night knowing that Steve Jobs is making sure I don&#8217;t have a rouge application on my iphone <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Actually I don&#8217;t have one cause they are crap like everything else made by apple err probably made by 3 year old kids in a third world country in a factory that doesn&#8217;t seem to show up on Google Earth</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16709/comment-page-1#comment-690925</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey looks like FileHoover from ES5 got a job at Apple.  *Yes I realize I&#039;m probably the only one who reads this that will get that joke.  Where&#039;s RandomNut or SharePro when you need them??* :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey looks like FileHoover from ES5 got a job at Apple.  *Yes I realize I&#8217;m probably the only one who reads this that will get that joke.  Where&#8217;s RandomNut or SharePro when you need them??* <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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