Comments on: Indie game Braid — gangbusters on Xbox http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16731 p2pnet.net - reader powered Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:27:55 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sam I Am http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16731/comment-page-1#comment-704850 Sam I Am Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:19:04 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16731#comment-704850 "They could sell downloads themselves from their own website." Well, they can't, actually, Rekrul, and history evidences this and they know it. You'll just upload it to P2P and that's the end of any material return on investment for that game, too. Freedom regarding product traditionally has remained in place until it is abused, in both the digital and material world. Locks only go on after people demonstrate they cannot be trusted not to steal. This observation has been consistent with the arc of software development in all forms of "code for sale", in operating systems and apps, entertainment, gaming. We reap what we sow, and that goes both ways. “They could sell downloads themselves from their own website.”

Well, they can’t, actually, Rekrul, and history evidences this and they know it. You’ll just upload it to P2P and that’s the end of any material return on investment for that game, too.

Freedom regarding product traditionally has remained in place until it is abused, in both the digital and material world. Locks only go on after people demonstrate they cannot be trusted not to steal. This observation has been consistent with the arc of software development in all forms of “code for sale”, in operating systems and apps, entertainment, gaming. We reap what we sow, and that goes both ways.

]]> By: Rekrul http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16731/comment-page-1#comment-698807 Rekrul Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:59:15 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16731#comment-698807 " Imagine this game company trying to get their product to as many people as possible, WITHOUT going through the channel they did." They could sell downloads themselves from their own website. ” Imagine this game company trying to get their product to as many people as possible,
WITHOUT going through the channel they did.”

They could sell downloads themselves from their own website.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16731/comment-page-1#comment-697889 Reader's Write Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:59:24 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16731#comment-697889 The cut, i've heard 30-35% for him, but MS pays for "localization" and the "raitings board fee". Possibly with different deals if you pay for this yourself. The cut, i’ve heard 30-35% for him, but MS pays for “localization” and the “raitings board fee”. Possibly with different deals if you pay for this yourself.

]]> By: Hippie http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16731/comment-page-1#comment-697797 Hippie Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:27:57 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16731#comment-697797 " I think it’s sad that so many people are now willing to happily accept DRM-crippled games that are tied to either the console they were downloaded on, or having to be authorized by a remote server. " Unfortunately, it's not that much different than the RIAA hold on distribution outlets. Imagine this game company trying to get their product to as many people as possible, WITHOUT going through the channel they did. Wal-mart and other stores won't use valuable shelf space on an unknown. THAT'S reserved for large coporations. As far as DRM, I don't know if this game has it, but as we have seen with Apples behavior, that is likely to have been forced on them by Msoft as a condition of distribution. They probably didn't have a choice. They are clearly trying and obviously someone likes what they are offering. I think it's sad that some can't cut people like that some slack. ” I think it’s sad that so many people are now willing to happily accept DRM-crippled games that are tied to either the console they were downloaded on, or having to be authorized by a remote server. ”

Unfortunately, it’s not that much different than the RIAA hold on distribution
outlets.

Imagine this game company trying to get their product to as many people as possible,
WITHOUT going through the channel they did.

Wal-mart and other stores won’t use valuable shelf space on an unknown. THAT’S
reserved for large coporations. As far as DRM, I don’t know if this game has it, but
as we have seen with Apples behavior, that is likely to have been forced on them by
Msoft as a condition of distribution. They probably didn’t have a choice.

They are clearly trying and obviously someone likes what they are offering.

I think it’s sad that some can’t cut people like that some slack.

]]> By: Hippie http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16731/comment-page-1#comment-697780 Hippie Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:21:58 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16731#comment-697780 " Content tied to a monthly subscription has been Micro$oft’s wet dream for years. They’d do it with Windows if they thought they could get away with it. " Don't believe for one second that day is NOT coming. Vista is the precursor, with it's ability to allow Msoft to disable ' illiegal' apps, and even more backdoors for advertisors and snoops, ( not to mention Media centers obedience to the 'do not copy' broadcast flag ) vista is the last step before subscription MS OS. ” Content tied to a monthly subscription has been Micro$oft’s wet dream for years. They’d do it with Windows if they thought they could get away with it. ”

Don’t believe for one second that day is NOT coming.
Vista is the precursor, with it’s ability to allow Msoft to disable ‘ illiegal’
apps, and even more backdoors for advertisors and snoops,
( not to mention Media centers obedience to the ‘do not copy’
broadcast flag ) vista is the last step before subscription MS OS.

]]> By: Rekrul http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16731/comment-page-1#comment-694928 Rekrul Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:40:57 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16731#comment-694928 Regardless of whether the game is any good or not, I think it's sad that so many people are now willing to happily accept DRM-crippled games that are tied to either the console they were downloaded on, or having to be authorized by a remote server. Which means if you cancel your Xbox Live subscription and need to replace your current console, all your "purchased" content becomes useless. Content tied to a monthly subscription has been Micro$oft's wet dream for years. They'd do it with Windows if they thought they could get away with it. Regardless of whether the game is any good or not, I think it’s sad that so many people are now willing to happily accept DRM-crippled games that are tied to either the console they were downloaded on, or having to be authorized by a remote server. Which means if you cancel your Xbox Live subscription and need to replace your current console, all your “purchased” content becomes useless.

Content tied to a monthly subscription has been Micro$oft’s wet dream for years. They’d do it with Windows if they thought they could get away with it.

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