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	<title>Comments on: Gordon Brown Creative Commons infringement</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look at the gpu license once something has been modified it becomes your peace of work and can be distributed as such.

Removing the credits will class as that

really imo no law has been broken its the commons license which is sketchy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at the gpu license once something has been modified it becomes your peace of work and can be distributed as such.</p>
<p>Removing the credits will class as that</p>
<p>really imo no law has been broken its the commons license which is sketchy</p>
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		<title>By: Quartz</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16778/comment-page-1#comment-717316</link>
		<dc:creator>Quartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankfully we dont all subscribe to your view of copyright and how it is abused by commercial interests Henry.

While creative commons does indeed work within the existing copyright framework that is not to say that that is the spirit behind the licence, its a way for those wishing to share their work with a wider community but barring commercial exploitation, even the originator of the work receives nothing.

Its funny how some perceive certain issues as black or white when there are in reality many shades between the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankfully we dont all subscribe to your view of copyright and how it is abused by commercial interests Henry.</p>
<p>While creative commons does indeed work within the existing copyright framework that is not to say that that is the spirit behind the licence, its a way for those wishing to share their work with a wider community but barring commercial exploitation, even the originator of the work receives nothing.</p>
<p>Its funny how some perceive certain issues as black or white when there are in reality many shades between the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ermich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16778/comment-page-1#comment-716680</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ermich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This brings up a fascinating contrast:  (Don&#039;t blame me -- this is what I do!)

   On the one hand, Jon Newton et al seem to either be really ambivalent about (or outright dismissive of) the notion of &quot;copyright&quot;, seeing it as either a legal fiction/exploitation/no big deal.  Thus, the (for want of a better term) &quot;Party Line&quot; on p2pnet is pretty much unanimous in supporting p2p networks/users/the whole idea of &quot;file sharing&quot;, and downright against the &quot;MAFIAA&quot; and it&#039;s bullying tactics.

   But wait: this particular worm turns REALLY EASILY when someone allegedly violates a &quot;creative commons deed&quot;.

   This is fascinating to say the least, since the whole concept behind &quot;Creative Commons&quot; is to allow &quot;permissive&quot; licensing SQUARELY WITHIN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE OF COPYRIGHT LAW.  That&#039;s right -- the vaunted &quot;Free Culture&quot; licenses derive their awesome powers from the same &quot;laws&quot; which p2p users/advocates routinely dismiss, and -- importantly -- are backed up by the EXACT SAME sort of legal &quot;options&quot; in case of violation.

   To put this bluntly, either one approves of Governmentally-enforced monopoly power over so-called &quot;intellectual property&quot; or one does not: there is very literally NO &quot;Middle ground&quot; on this issue, and all of the hairsplitting over penalties being &quot;too strict&quot; or terms being &quot;too long&quot; are ultimately beside the point (as Richard Stallman and others have, ironically, stated many times.  

   I find it decidedly ironic that a pro-p2p blog which seems to spend the vast majority of it&#039;s time berating various &quot;copyright holders&quot; for what it percieves as &quot;draconian&quot; tactics has just done a 180 on this issue simply because the particular style of licenses involved is &quot;kewl&quot;.

   Go here and learn: www.questioncopyright.org

   Keep up the (ahem) &quot;good work&quot; there, Jon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This brings up a fascinating contrast:  (Don&#8217;t blame me &#8212; this is what I do!)</p>
<p>   On the one hand, Jon Newton et al seem to either be really ambivalent about (or outright dismissive of) the notion of &#8220;copyright&#8221;, seeing it as either a legal fiction/exploitation/no big deal.  Thus, the (for want of a better term) &#8220;Party Line&#8221; on p2pnet is pretty much unanimous in supporting p2p networks/users/the whole idea of &#8220;file sharing&#8221;, and downright against the &#8220;MAFIAA&#8221; and it&#8217;s bullying tactics.</p>
<p>   But wait: this particular worm turns REALLY EASILY when someone allegedly violates a &#8220;creative commons deed&#8221;.</p>
<p>   This is fascinating to say the least, since the whole concept behind &#8220;Creative Commons&#8221; is to allow &#8220;permissive&#8221; licensing SQUARELY WITHIN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE OF COPYRIGHT LAW.  That&#8217;s right &#8212; the vaunted &#8220;Free Culture&#8221; licenses derive their awesome powers from the same &#8220;laws&#8221; which p2p users/advocates routinely dismiss, and &#8212; importantly &#8212; are backed up by the EXACT SAME sort of legal &#8220;options&#8221; in case of violation.</p>
<p>   To put this bluntly, either one approves of Governmentally-enforced monopoly power over so-called &#8220;intellectual property&#8221; or one does not: there is very literally NO &#8220;Middle ground&#8221; on this issue, and all of the hairsplitting over penalties being &#8220;too strict&#8221; or terms being &#8220;too long&#8221; are ultimately beside the point (as Richard Stallman and others have, ironically, stated many times.  </p>
<p>   I find it decidedly ironic that a pro-p2p blog which seems to spend the vast majority of it&#8217;s time berating various &#8220;copyright holders&#8221; for what it percieves as &#8220;draconian&#8221; tactics has just done a 180 on this issue simply because the particular style of licenses involved is &#8220;kewl&#8221;.</p>
<p>   Go here and learn: <a href="http://www.questioncopyright.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.questioncopyright.org</a></p>
<p>   Keep up the (ahem) &#8220;good work&#8221; there, Jon.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16778/comment-page-1#comment-715698</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://p2pnet.net/story/16289

Remember our honourable friend Jim Prentice? Pirating a map from Google Maps?

Copyright politicians want to stay above the law, after all, and it is not at all surprising...</description>
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<p>Remember our honourable friend Jim Prentice? Pirating a map from Google Maps?</p>
<p>Copyright politicians want to stay above the law, after all, and it is not at all surprising&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16778/comment-page-1#comment-715480</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The English are sick to death of the tosser as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The English are sick to death of the tosser as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Comeoncomcast</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16778/comment-page-1#comment-714443</link>
		<dc:creator>Comeoncomcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mimister&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mimister</p>
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