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		<title>By: Just my two cents</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just my two cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also learned the hard way about creating accounts for reviewing products.  I remember a major mishap when I was reviewing Ultima Online for a magazine in Japan.

As stated in this article, when you are an editor for an print or online magazine, often companies will give you free software and or hardware (joysticks, Mice, etc...) to get you to review their products.  The problem comes, when they want to get you to review a MMORPG type online game with monthly charges.

There are usually three methods in which games like these are reviewed.  

The first method, is for the game developer to allow the reviewer access on their Beta server- everyone plays for free, and any problems in gameplay can be linked to the software still being in Beta.  

The second method, is for the developer to grant &quot;free&quot; accounts.  This is usually popular with the writers, in that they don&#039;t need to play the game on &quot;their dime&quot;.  The downside is that some magazine and readers feel that this causes the writers to have a biased view on the game, and makes them soft in their reviews.

The third method, is for the writer to create his own account, with his credit card info (this happens a lot).  This allows for a purely unbiased review of the game, as the writer is playing the game as any &quot;real&quot; player would.  This also happens a lot in overseas markets, where the reseller can not get access to special accounts to allow for &quot;free&quot; gameplay. The problem with this, is that most of these games (at that time) require that you register a credit card, even if you are only registering.

In my case, when I reviewed Ultima Online, I was required to make an account with the game.  Most MMORPG games come with a free month or two to play included in the price, as did Ultima Online, and I figured that I would cancel my account after the review.

Two months passed, I finished the review, and loosing any interest on continuing the game for a monthly fee, I canceled my account, and uninstalled the game.

A couple of months passed, and I noticed that I was being charged a monthly fee for Ultima Online.  Surprised, I reinstalled the game and tried to logon, only to be told that the account information did not exist.  I then tried through the web account, to access my account information, and was told that my password was wrong.

Repeated Emails to EA in the US went unanswered, and it took over a year, and an official EA office in Japan, before I was able to get them to stop charging my account.

The lesson is...Beware of who you give your credit information to, or you will pay for it.

Just my two cents</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also learned the hard way about creating accounts for reviewing products.  I remember a major mishap when I was reviewing Ultima Online for a magazine in Japan.</p>
<p>As stated in this article, when you are an editor for an print or online magazine, often companies will give you free software and or hardware (joysticks, Mice, etc&#8230;) to get you to review their products.  The problem comes, when they want to get you to review a MMORPG type online game with monthly charges.</p>
<p>There are usually three methods in which games like these are reviewed.  </p>
<p>The first method, is for the game developer to allow the reviewer access on their Beta server- everyone plays for free, and any problems in gameplay can be linked to the software still being in Beta.  </p>
<p>The second method, is for the developer to grant &#8220;free&#8221; accounts.  This is usually popular with the writers, in that they don&#8217;t need to play the game on &#8220;their dime&#8221;.  The downside is that some magazine and readers feel that this causes the writers to have a biased view on the game, and makes them soft in their reviews.</p>
<p>The third method, is for the writer to create his own account, with his credit card info (this happens a lot).  This allows for a purely unbiased review of the game, as the writer is playing the game as any &#8220;real&#8221; player would.  This also happens a lot in overseas markets, where the reseller can not get access to special accounts to allow for &#8220;free&#8221; gameplay. The problem with this, is that most of these games (at that time) require that you register a credit card, even if you are only registering.</p>
<p>In my case, when I reviewed Ultima Online, I was required to make an account with the game.  Most MMORPG games come with a free month or two to play included in the price, as did Ultima Online, and I figured that I would cancel my account after the review.</p>
<p>Two months passed, I finished the review, and loosing any interest on continuing the game for a monthly fee, I canceled my account, and uninstalled the game.</p>
<p>A couple of months passed, and I noticed that I was being charged a monthly fee for Ultima Online.  Surprised, I reinstalled the game and tried to logon, only to be told that the account information did not exist.  I then tried through the web account, to access my account information, and was told that my password was wrong.</p>
<p>Repeated Emails to EA in the US went unanswered, and it took over a year, and an official EA office in Japan, before I was able to get them to stop charging my account.</p>
<p>The lesson is&#8230;Beware of who you give your credit information to, or you will pay for it.</p>
<p>Just my two cents</p>
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		<title>By: dan tynan</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16930/comment-page-1#comment-766019</link>
		<dc:creator>dan tynan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE - MYSTERY SOLVED: So this morning I got a voice mail from Sony’s PR firm up in Seattle. They had the answer for me. The aforementioned PR nag that just left this firm did not leave with the PS3 tucked under his arm. He shipped it off to their Seattle office. A very chagrined employee of said firm called me to say that he had mistakenly used my account to demo the purchase of a game from the Sony store — hence the mystery charge for $29.99. He said they’d work with Sony to get the charge removed without my having to go through the whole suspended card rigamarole. They’re also going to wipe my identity off the machine in question, though it will retain its ghostly presence on the Sony network.

So, that’s good news for me. And it appears the Sony PlayStation Store can remove charges, despite what its tech support folks say, or what it says in its terms of service. But it leaves the issue of the Sony tech support’s bad service and really bad advice. No one’s likely to be fixing that any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE &#8211; MYSTERY SOLVED: So this morning I got a voice mail from Sony’s PR firm up in Seattle. They had the answer for me. The aforementioned PR nag that just left this firm did not leave with the PS3 tucked under his arm. He shipped it off to their Seattle office. A very chagrined employee of said firm called me to say that he had mistakenly used my account to demo the purchase of a game from the Sony store — hence the mystery charge for $29.99. He said they’d work with Sony to get the charge removed without my having to go through the whole suspended card rigamarole. They’re also going to wipe my identity off the machine in question, though it will retain its ghostly presence on the Sony network.</p>
<p>So, that’s good news for me. And it appears the Sony PlayStation Store can remove charges, despite what its tech support folks say, or what it says in its terms of service. But it leaves the issue of the Sony tech support’s bad service and really bad advice. No one’s likely to be fixing that any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rekrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember the good old days when video games consoles were actually for playing games, rather than being an entertainment &quot;portal&quot; for pretty much everything but games?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the good old days when video games consoles were actually for playing games, rather than being an entertainment &#8220;portal&#8221; for pretty much everything but games?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vin any Owner are obviously correct....

HOWEVER, one who insists upon doing business with a company whose bzns &quot;ethics&quot; are such as those shown by Sony in the past really kinda deserve what they get! :&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vin any Owner are obviously correct&#8230;.</p>
<p>HOWEVER, one who insists upon doing business with a company whose bzns &#8220;ethics&#8221; are such as those shown by Sony in the past really kinda deserve what they get! <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PS3Owner</title>
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		<dc:creator>PS3Owner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the morale of this story is... never leave your account on auto sign-in if it&#039;s not your PS3! Also surely in this age of digital crime it should be good practice to delete login and card details from sites you no longer plan to use? You wouldn&#039;t go to an internet cafe for example and leave the PC signed into a website with your card details saved on screen, the PS3 should be no different!

Also while you were logged into the Store via the PC does it not let you change your password? The simple thing to combat a PS3 with an auto sign-in left on would be to change the password so the one saved in the PS3 no longer matches the system.

From my experience it&#039;s best to be civil to Customer Services reps, they are not the ones that nicked your money and they can only tell you what they&#039;ve been told to. Swearing and being insulting is a sure fire way to make your CS experience more difficult, if you treat them with some respect they&#039;ll probably be more willing to help you with your query.

But never having had a problem with my PS3 I&#039;ve never spoken to them myself so I&#039;ll reserve judgment, but the fact remains you should never rely on someone else to look after your personal data - you should have never sent that PS3 back with your account set to auto sign-in, and if it had come to me in a fresh-install state I&#039;d have gone so far as to perform a full format of the drive before sending it back...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the morale of this story is&#8230; never leave your account on auto sign-in if it&#8217;s not your PS3! Also surely in this age of digital crime it should be good practice to delete login and card details from sites you no longer plan to use? You wouldn&#8217;t go to an internet cafe for example and leave the PC signed into a website with your card details saved on screen, the PS3 should be no different!</p>
<p>Also while you were logged into the Store via the PC does it not let you change your password? The simple thing to combat a PS3 with an auto sign-in left on would be to change the password so the one saved in the PS3 no longer matches the system.</p>
<p>From my experience it&#8217;s best to be civil to Customer Services reps, they are not the ones that nicked your money and they can only tell you what they&#8217;ve been told to. Swearing and being insulting is a sure fire way to make your CS experience more difficult, if you treat them with some respect they&#8217;ll probably be more willing to help you with your query.</p>
<p>But never having had a problem with my PS3 I&#8217;ve never spoken to them myself so I&#8217;ll reserve judgment, but the fact remains you should never rely on someone else to look after your personal data &#8211; you should have never sent that PS3 back with your account set to auto sign-in, and if it had come to me in a fresh-install state I&#8217;d have gone so far as to perform a full format of the drive before sending it back&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: VinTheDean</title>
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		<dc:creator>VinTheDean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude that sucks.

I was going to suggest going to store.playstation.com to remove your payment information but you FINALLY got that infomratiom from them.

That is wrong, they should wipe the PS3 clean before they send it out again.  I work in IT and before we get rid of old pc&#039;s we wipe our Hard Drive clean.  

It&#039;s just common sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude that sucks.</p>
<p>I was going to suggest going to store.playstation.com to remove your payment information but you FINALLY got that infomratiom from them.</p>
<p>That is wrong, they should wipe the PS3 clean before they send it out again.  I work in IT and before we get rid of old pc&#8217;s we wipe our Hard Drive clean.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just common sense to me.</p>
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