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	<title>Comments on: iPod inventor Kramer &#8216;hasn&#8217;t seen a penny&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Dude From Finland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dude From Finland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah everyone wants to be first... but not everyone calls in the actual first guy in their defence, admit that they took the patent. shake his hand and send him home. I would say that they could drop a few dollars his way since they already admitted. Prius owners like to think they have the first hybrid car and are on &quot;the cutting edge of green tech&quot;. Solar panels are the way to go on green tech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah everyone wants to be first&#8230; but not everyone calls in the actual first guy in their defence, admit that they took the patent. shake his hand and send him home. I would say that they could drop a few dollars his way since they already admitted. Prius owners like to think they have the first hybrid car and are on &#8220;the cutting edge of green tech&#8221;. Solar panels are the way to go on green tech.</p>
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		<title>By: Just my two cents</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just my two cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole bit is just silly.

MP3 players were on the market far before iPODs even existed, and date back to players marketed by creative and Diamond Multimedia (remember them?).   Early Devices used RS232 ports to transfer data to and from them, or worked like a tape recorder, with a line-in Jack.

Sure his drawings were impressive for his time, but as it appears, a prototype was never made, and the product never made it to the market.

If thinking of a concept, putting it onto paper, and never going forward with it (even if it is because of lack of funds, support or even cash) constituted &quot;invention&quot;, then the ancient Egyptians invented the airplane, and all those Sci-Fi cartoonists invented everything from the Rocket to the cell phone.

Everyone wants to think that they are the first. Apple fanboys would like to think that they had the first MP3 player, Prius owners like to think that they had the first &quot;eco&quot; car (when in fact there was a fully electronic car in 1899 &amp; 1900(http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aacarselectrica.htm).  

Just my Two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole bit is just silly.</p>
<p>MP3 players were on the market far before iPODs even existed, and date back to players marketed by creative and Diamond Multimedia (remember them?).   Early Devices used RS232 ports to transfer data to and from them, or worked like a tape recorder, with a line-in Jack.</p>
<p>Sure his drawings were impressive for his time, but as it appears, a prototype was never made, and the product never made it to the market.</p>
<p>If thinking of a concept, putting it onto paper, and never going forward with it (even if it is because of lack of funds, support or even cash) constituted &#8220;invention&#8221;, then the ancient Egyptians invented the airplane, and all those Sci-Fi cartoonists invented everything from the Rocket to the cell phone.</p>
<p>Everyone wants to think that they are the first. Apple fanboys would like to think that they had the first MP3 player, Prius owners like to think that they had the first &#8220;eco&#8221; car (when in fact there was a fully electronic car in 1899 &amp; 1900(http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aacarselectrica.htm).  </p>
<p>Just my Two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a lawyer, but I believe the law is far more sane in this regard in Britain. It is legal to record a conversation as long as one participant is aware of the recording. In other words, using a bug to discover information that would otherwise be secret, is illegal; but if you are already a party to the interchange, it is ok to make a record of it to refer to later.

I don&#039;t understand why some North American jurisdictions can&#039;t make the same distinction. I&#039;ve tried to discover the rationale behind this, but the discussion always goes off at a tangent, and becomes about actual spying (bugging, or discovery of secrets) which clearly is correctly illegal in both cases.

In my mind, anyone who is a victim of a crime should be legally allowed to make a record of events (without having to read out a legal disclaimer to the criminal) in order to bring them to justice. Why should anyone require protection from having their words recorded on a tape, or their deeds recorded on a surveillance cam (no cheap toilet jokes please)? If you don&#039;t want it recorded, don&#039;t say it, and don&#039;t do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a lawyer, but I believe the law is far more sane in this regard in Britain. It is legal to record a conversation as long as one participant is aware of the recording. In other words, using a bug to discover information that would otherwise be secret, is illegal; but if you are already a party to the interchange, it is ok to make a record of it to refer to later.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why some North American jurisdictions can&#8217;t make the same distinction. I&#8217;ve tried to discover the rationale behind this, but the discussion always goes off at a tangent, and becomes about actual spying (bugging, or discovery of secrets) which clearly is correctly illegal in both cases.</p>
<p>In my mind, anyone who is a victim of a crime should be legally allowed to make a record of events (without having to read out a legal disclaimer to the criminal) in order to bring them to justice. Why should anyone require protection from having their words recorded on a tape, or their deeds recorded on a surveillance cam (no cheap toilet jokes please)? If you don&#8217;t want it recorded, don&#8217;t say it, and don&#8217;t do it!</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16931/comment-page-1#comment-765324</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Those monitoring devices sound bitchin&#039; but I wonder if they&#039;d be legal. At the very least, would the evidence hold up in court if the recorded party was unaware of the device(s) being used?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those monitoring devices sound bitchin&#8217; but I wonder if they&#8217;d be legal. At the very least, would the evidence hold up in court if the recorded party was unaware of the device(s) being used?</p>
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