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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look at 4chan and anonymous, hacktivists banding together</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look at 4chan and anonymous, hacktivists banding together</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16952/comment-page-1#comment-770721</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To see the power of online association one can see how anonymous is truncing into pieces the  business of scientology. 

It is true that since Scientology is based on deceptions crimes and extotions it is very vunerable to the light. 

Still it is a pretty good demo. Scientology have to stop their criminals and extortion practice or die. I dont&#039; think they will stop because they make way too much money. So they will die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To see the power of online association one can see how anonymous is truncing into pieces the  business of scientology. </p>
<p>It is true that since Scientology is based on deceptions crimes and extotions it is very vunerable to the light. </p>
<p>Still it is a pretty good demo. Scientology have to stop their criminals and extortion practice or die. I dont&#8217; think they will stop because they make way too much money. So they will die.</p>
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		<title>By: Comeoncomcast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comeoncomcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here it comes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#039;The people have spoken&#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Giest is right, The internet is only really coming into play now... Imagine all the Corey Worthingtons of the world in just 5 years time&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here it comes</p>
<p>&#8216;The people have spoken&#8217;</p>
<p>Giest is right, The internet is only really coming into play now&#8230; Imagine all the Corey Worthingtons of the world in just 5 years time</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16952/comment-page-1#comment-770572</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, here is what I received from a Facebook group called &quot;I want to hear Elizabeth May in the next televised leader&#039;s debate.&quot;

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Hello all 4,500 members(!),

Apparently the Green Party offices across Canada are overwhelmed with support. Conversely, if even a fraction of the emails I am forwarded to the NDP offices are actually sent, the NDP offices are also &#039;overwhelmed&#039;. This group has become a very powerful message board and the media is watching. You are making an impact on reversing the &#039;Consortium&#039;s&#039; decision to exclude May. Also I am told by the Greens that they have retained a lawyer and filed a complaint with the CRTC. The very latest is that they have a News Conference scheduled tomorrow sometime.

I have attached an article in today&#039;s Glove and Mail written by former Conservative Party Leader and Canada&#039;s 16th Prime Minister. He is not impressed with this decision and has written an article that I consider a must read. See below.

Thank you all for joining the group and inviting others. This group began in the winter when a spring election was possible. It will fold in a matter of weeks - after the debates. I only hope that when I shut it down and email the final email thanking you for your attention and effort in this cross-party objective, we were successful. I also hope that record numbers of Canadians tune in to watch Elizabeth May debate and the voter turnout on the 14th is a record high.

David J. Danyluk

LET ELIZABETH MAY SPEAK
JOE CLARK
From Wednesday&#039;s Globe and Mail

September 10, 2008 at 12:44 AM EDT

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Article was attached, but I will put a link instead:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080910.COCLARK10/TPStory/TPComment/Television/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, here is what I received from a Facebook group called &#8220;I want to hear Elizabeth May in the next televised leader&#8217;s debate.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212; cut &#8212;</p>
<p>Hello all 4,500 members(!),</p>
<p>Apparently the Green Party offices across Canada are overwhelmed with support. Conversely, if even a fraction of the emails I am forwarded to the NDP offices are actually sent, the NDP offices are also &#8216;overwhelmed&#8217;. This group has become a very powerful message board and the media is watching. You are making an impact on reversing the &#8216;Consortium&#8217;s&#8217; decision to exclude May. Also I am told by the Greens that they have retained a lawyer and filed a complaint with the CRTC. The very latest is that they have a News Conference scheduled tomorrow sometime.</p>
<p>I have attached an article in today&#8217;s Glove and Mail written by former Conservative Party Leader and Canada&#8217;s 16th Prime Minister. He is not impressed with this decision and has written an article that I consider a must read. See below.</p>
<p>Thank you all for joining the group and inviting others. This group began in the winter when a spring election was possible. It will fold in a matter of weeks &#8211; after the debates. I only hope that when I shut it down and email the final email thanking you for your attention and effort in this cross-party objective, we were successful. I also hope that record numbers of Canadians tune in to watch Elizabeth May debate and the voter turnout on the 14th is a record high.</p>
<p>David J. Danyluk</p>
<p>LET ELIZABETH MAY SPEAK<br />
JOE CLARK<br />
From Wednesday&#8217;s Globe and Mail</p>
<p>September 10, 2008 at 12:44 AM EDT</p>
<p>&#8212; end &#8212;<br />
Article was attached, but I will put a link instead:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080910.COCLARK10/TPStory/TPComment/Television/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080910.COCLARK10/TPStory/TPComment/Television/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ermich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16952/comment-page-1#comment-769197</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ermich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that nobody&#039;s taking into consideration yet is that there IS no divide between &quot;online&quot; and &quot;IRL&#039; (In Real Life).
The notion of &quot;IRL&quot; is actually really dangerous because it has allowed the &quot;Powers that Were&quot; to pretend that what happened online didn&#039;t impact &quot;the real world&quot;.  I wonder if, 500 years ago, people were trying to pawn off a distinction between &quot;In Real Life&quot; and &quot;IPM&quot; (In Printed Matter.) 

   Martin Luther&#039;s 99 theses were disseminated by means of the printing press.  His nascent &quot;heresy&quot; couldn&#039;t be constrained, and it blew the existing sociopolitical and religious hierarchies TO BITS.  With the convergence of computer technology, widespread (and increasing) skepticism about existing cultural forms, and a steadily-increasing commitment to various forms of &quot;Civil Disobedience&quot;, there&#039;s literally no way that the lawsuits, harrassment, or misrepresentations will work anymore.  This is WAY bigger than &quot;music piracy&quot; -- it&#039;s about finally being able to create a world where resistance is NOT futile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that nobody&#8217;s taking into consideration yet is that there IS no divide between &#8220;online&#8221; and &#8220;IRL&#8217; (In Real Life).<br />
The notion of &#8220;IRL&#8221; is actually really dangerous because it has allowed the &#8220;Powers that Were&#8221; to pretend that what happened online didn&#8217;t impact &#8220;the real world&#8221;.  I wonder if, 500 years ago, people were trying to pawn off a distinction between &#8220;In Real Life&#8221; and &#8220;IPM&#8221; (In Printed Matter.) </p>
<p>   Martin Luther&#8217;s 99 theses were disseminated by means of the printing press.  His nascent &#8220;heresy&#8221; couldn&#8217;t be constrained, and it blew the existing sociopolitical and religious hierarchies TO BITS.  With the convergence of computer technology, widespread (and increasing) skepticism about existing cultural forms, and a steadily-increasing commitment to various forms of &#8220;Civil Disobedience&#8221;, there&#8217;s literally no way that the lawsuits, harrassment, or misrepresentations will work anymore.  This is WAY bigger than &#8220;music piracy&#8221; &#8212; it&#8217;s about finally being able to create a world where resistance is NOT futile.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16952/comment-page-1#comment-768420</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/againstnew.htm

   Read the pdfs.  This book -- better even than Lessig&#039;s book &quot;Free culture&quot; -- points out what is wrong with IP in all forms.  It also points out the flaw in the notion that such coercive monopoly power CAN be put to &quot;good uses&quot;.

    The current mess is nothing new.  Patents and Copyright have ALWAYS been about supressing competition by means of Government largesse.  One must be at least a tad bit suspicious of those who believe that guaranteed coercive monopoly is a &quot;fundamental human right&quot;.

    Read the book.</description>
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<p>   Read the pdfs.  This book &#8212; better even than Lessig&#8217;s book &#8220;Free culture&#8221; &#8212; points out what is wrong with IP in all forms.  It also points out the flaw in the notion that such coercive monopoly power CAN be put to &#8220;good uses&#8221;.</p>
<p>    The current mess is nothing new.  Patents and Copyright have ALWAYS been about supressing competition by means of Government largesse.  One must be at least a tad bit suspicious of those who believe that guaranteed coercive monopoly is a &#8220;fundamental human right&#8221;.</p>
<p>    Read the book.</p>
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