CERN Collidatron: secrets revealed
p2pnet news view | Cool:- The hugely expensive CERN Collidatron is doing its thing in Switzerland, putting to rest speculation that there’d be a(nother) really big bang soon as someone pressed the Start button.
Otherwise known as the Large Hadron Collider, among other things, it’ll allow researchers to research the other Big Bang theory, that the universe has, “expanded from a primordial hot and dense initial condition at some finite time in the past and continues to expand to this day,” as the Wikipedia explains it.
As is to be expected, p2pnet readers have their own thoughts and below, for your education and amusement, are some of them
Maybe I am misunderstanding Einstein`s famous equation. Just what is the mass of a single proton traveling at 99.99% of the speed of light anyways? I`ve always thought that matter traveling near light speed, or as close to it as possible, wasn`t actually feasible. As the matter approaches the speed of light, more and more of the energy moving it would get dumped into it`s mass instead. Hence why matter can`t achieve the speed of light because if it did, the mass would then be infinite. The resulting infinite mass would then need infinite energy to move it, an impossibility (I hate that word) as far as I know. I`m not nearly as smart as Einstein nor the physicists working on this project, but I am fascinated by all things subatomic. What can I say, I`m a nerd and think it`s `cool`. If anyone can correct me, go right ahead.
I will try to explain from what we learned in high school when we went to CERN as a field trip.(did you know the drinking age is 16 there our school found out
) The colider can reach these speeds as it has no friction. Just magnets in a vacuum. A proton is just a fraction of a atom so is almost infinity light hence the reason it can be accelerated to such high speeds. Though even then it needs the power supply of a city to achieve this speed for both partials.
E=mc^2 mass of proton is 1.67262158 Ã 10-27 kilograms.
Though the hard drive space of 3,200 TB each year is even more phenomenal.
Another Reader’s Write writes:
“Wait a little bit. Just a matter of time until the tiny black holes grow and coalesce together. . .
“A Bravo! Good job! CERN. You just fucked the planet!
“We told them it would hapen but no they never listen!
“CERN might well just have removed the universal screw that was holding everything together! Oh Boy!
“One good news though. It will get ride of the RIAA/MPAA/CRIA/BPI parasites for good! With Univers-Sale this universe was dirty anyway.”
heh. Riiiight.
Reasonable Person too says:
“Each proton will travel at just below the speed of light but the energy of teh colision will be the mass of the rpoton time twice the speed of light still. This is why we are doomed!
“PAFF!”
Yup. PAFF!
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Who ever hold the copyright for the universe is not going to like that!
heh
Says Josh:
“@ Reasonable Person too: I`m pretty sure that God is a lot smarter than the RIAA and won’t mind …”
Stay tuned? Or isn’t it worth it?
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September 10th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Will this experiment affect our world?
September 10th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
@subas de
No. Unless the understanding of things that it brings will benefit us in the future, in which case the answer is yes.
These are some of the smartest people in the world. At least give them the credit that they know what is and isn’t possible with this thing. Last I checked, most, if not all of us, don’t have anywhere near the credentials these people have. They’ve been studying this stuff since they were teenagers. If there was even a remote chance that these experiments could cause harm to anything but the machine itself, they wouldn’t have built it.
They’ve said that, yes, even though it’s unlikely, microscopic black holes might appear – but black holes aren’t really what movies and fiction make them out to be. If any were to appear from these experiments, they would disappear just as fast with no effect to the rest of the world. At a distance, a black hole only has the same gravitational pull of the object that created it. It’s not until you get past the event horizon of a black hole (the “black” part of it) that it has larger pull. And with these protons being so amazingly small, any black hole created would just collapse back in on itself almost immediately.
People are just being ignorant to the facts.
September 10th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Of course, the whole “big bang theory” is just that, a theory, and it’s quite possible that it’s completely wrong. Just like the explanation for the continuing expansion (at an increasing rate) of the universe, and the formation of galaxies; they had to invent some enigmatic dark matter in order to make the equations balance; any equation can be balanced if you add enough unexplained constants. This is the systematic error of basing one theory on top of another and so on, until eventually you create an entire science which could fundamentally flawed.
I don’t agree with the so called big bang theory; it has the same plausibility as saying god suddenly created the universe; it fails to explain where the material came from, how it became so dense, etc. This so called dark energy / dark matter which supposedly comprises the majority of our known universe undermines almost all of the formulated rules of physics; and it could simply be an indication that we are entirely wrong about these generalisations we have constructed.
September 11th, 2008 at 4:28 am
“People are just being ignorant to the facts”.
There is cosmic rays hiting the atmosphere of our planet every day with energies even larger than this collider can produce. this might produce also very tiny and very short lived blackholes.
Too bad one can not put detectors arround these events to study them!
September 11th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
October 21st. “Cross the streams”