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		<title>By: Henry Ermich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-774764</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ermich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon: 
   GLAD to see you back, man!
   Unfortunately, the two virus programs might interact badly -- typically the advice on this is to only use one at a time -- sometimes when they&#039;re scanning they read one another&#039;s &quot;virus vaults&quot; as sources of infection.  It&#039;s actually rather similar to how multiple firewalls don&#039;t play well together sometimes.  Google around, you&#039;ll figure stuff out.

   L8r</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon:<br />
   GLAD to see you back, man!<br />
   Unfortunately, the two virus programs might interact badly &#8212; typically the advice on this is to only use one at a time &#8212; sometimes when they&#8217;re scanning they read one another&#8217;s &#8220;virus vaults&#8221; as sources of infection.  It&#8217;s actually rather similar to how multiple firewalls don&#8217;t play well together sometimes.  Google around, you&#8217;ll figure stuff out.</p>
<p>   L8r</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-774204</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all. Iâm back in action. And Iâll check malwarebytes out, Drake. Thanks. (Iâm now running Avast as well as AVG. Like wearing two condoms. Right? ;) )

And watch for Henry. Heâll be writing for p2pnet regularly.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all. Iâm back in action. And Iâll check malwarebytes out, Drake. Thanks. (Iâm now running Avast as well as AVG. Like wearing two condoms. Right? <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>And watch for Henry. Heâll be writing for p2pnet regularly.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-773731</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried using Windows System Restore? 

That should always be the first go-to option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried using Windows System Restore? </p>
<p>That should always be the first go-to option.</p>
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		<title>By: Drake</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-773631</link>
		<dc:creator>Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you haven&#039;t reformatted already, give this a shot - http://www.malwarebytes.org/
It finds a lot of nasty trojans that similar programs don&#039;t find.

Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you haven&#8217;t reformatted already, give this a shot &#8211; <a href="http://www.malwarebytes.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.malwarebytes.org/</a><br />
It finds a lot of nasty trojans that similar programs don&#8217;t find.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ermich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-773628</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ermich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do NOT use Red hat or Fedora.
Why?
They gut their &quot;media player&quot; software (xmms etc.) of mp3 functionality so as to avoid &quot;licensing concerns&quot;.
Meaning -- of course -- that to get what is nowadays a mandatory MINIMUM level of functionality back, you have to go through extra steps -- grabbing down source and recompiling.

  Ironically, Debian and it&#039;s numerous derivatives (which tend to be some of the more overtly &quot;political&quot; factions in the Linux scene) preserve mp3 functionality &quot;out of the box&quot; so to speak.

   Go with a Debian deriv of some kind -- I&#039;m personally quite fond of Knoppix myself.
Ubuntu may be stable and all, but the fact that they disable &quot;Root&quot; access and make you  &quot;sudo&quot; your ass off to even get minimally-basic tasks done just strikes me as shameful on some level.  Attempting to &quot;User-proof&quot; the OS by making it&#039;s use vastly more annoying and complicated than it has to be is just cheesy.

  (Of course, the user-base of Ubuntu have relatively easy tutorials about how to &quot;unlock&quot; root access, but it just strikes me as an unneccesary amount of bother.

  Just wondering: has anybody here tried ReactOS?  It claims to be a fully &quot;open&quot; work-alike to NT written from a completely fresh code-base, but compatible to 3rd party drivers and software etc.  Unfortunately, I&#039;ve never actually gotten a version of it to run on any of the computers here -- tried their &quot;LiveCD&quot; a few times -- several versions in fact -- but for some reason none of them actually boot.

   Just wondering if anybody has had any success with that?
   Sounds like a great idea in principle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do NOT use Red hat or Fedora.<br />
Why?<br />
They gut their &#8220;media player&#8221; software (xmms etc.) of mp3 functionality so as to avoid &#8220;licensing concerns&#8221;.<br />
Meaning &#8212; of course &#8212; that to get what is nowadays a mandatory MINIMUM level of functionality back, you have to go through extra steps &#8212; grabbing down source and recompiling.</p>
<p>  Ironically, Debian and it&#8217;s numerous derivatives (which tend to be some of the more overtly &#8220;political&#8221; factions in the Linux scene) preserve mp3 functionality &#8220;out of the box&#8221; so to speak.</p>
<p>   Go with a Debian deriv of some kind &#8212; I&#8217;m personally quite fond of Knoppix myself.<br />
Ubuntu may be stable and all, but the fact that they disable &#8220;Root&#8221; access and make you  &#8220;sudo&#8221; your ass off to even get minimally-basic tasks done just strikes me as shameful on some level.  Attempting to &#8220;User-proof&#8221; the OS by making it&#8217;s use vastly more annoying and complicated than it has to be is just cheesy.</p>
<p>  (Of course, the user-base of Ubuntu have relatively easy tutorials about how to &#8220;unlock&#8221; root access, but it just strikes me as an unneccesary amount of bother.</p>
<p>  Just wondering: has anybody here tried ReactOS?  It claims to be a fully &#8220;open&#8221; work-alike to NT written from a completely fresh code-base, but compatible to 3rd party drivers and software etc.  Unfortunately, I&#8217;ve never actually gotten a version of it to run on any of the computers here &#8212; tried their &#8220;LiveCD&#8221; a few times &#8212; several versions in fact &#8212; but for some reason none of them actually boot.</p>
<p>   Just wondering if anybody has had any success with that?<br />
   Sounds like a great idea in principle.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-773612</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/3374/1/

Concordia University has taken the remarkable step of blocking campus access to Facebook for students and faculty connecting via a wired connection (wireless connections can still access the site).  The University claims that it is doing so because of &quot;concerns that the continuing reliability of the Concordia network could be compromised because of spam, viruses and leaks of confidential information related to Facebook use.&quot;  Say what?  The University is concerned about spam arising from Facebook use and so decides to cut off access?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/3374/1/" rel="nofollow">http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/3374/1/</a></p>
<p>Concordia University has taken the remarkable step of blocking campus access to Facebook for students and faculty connecting via a wired connection (wireless connections can still access the site).  The University claims that it is doing so because of &#8220;concerns that the continuing reliability of the Concordia network could be compromised because of spam, viruses and leaks of confidential information related to Facebook use.&#8221;  Say what?  The University is concerned about spam arising from Facebook use and so decides to cut off access?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-773611</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are still listening to Metallica in 21st century?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are still listening to Metallica in 21st century?????</p>
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		<title>By: Gr33n3gg</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-773555</link>
		<dc:creator>Gr33n3gg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would recommend Ubuntu or any popular (larger) distro of Linux, even Fedora, CentOS, SuSE etc...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.S. My other 4 computers  are running either Linux or BSD.  Out of all my machines, one is running Windows.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would recommend Ubuntu or any popular (larger) distro of Linux, even Fedora, CentOS, SuSE etc&#8230;</p>
<p>P.S. My other 4 computers  are running either Linux or BSD.  Out of all my machines, one is running Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: an Arse</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-773534</link>
		<dc:creator>an Arse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Out of all the hundreds of operating systems, why does a man of your political/commercial views use XP?&quot; - Reader&#039;s Write

&quot;[Jon&#039;s] laptop came with XP already loaded&quot;, which is the same, and only, reason so many other misinformed Windows users still use Microsoft&#039;s OSes.  If they were forced to buy the worthless crap, they might as well use it.  However, there is a cure to your Window&#039;s problem Jon.  
A website with tons of information about Microsoft and how to switch to Linux.  
http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=2006061302494935

I&#039;ve never used or seen CentOS, but Ubuntu is much more stable and secure than XP and Vista.  I recommend Ubuntu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Out of all the hundreds of operating systems, why does a man of your political/commercial views use XP?&#8221; &#8211; Reader&#8217;s Write</p>
<p>&#8220;[Jon's] laptop came with XP already loaded&#8221;, which is the same, and only, reason so many other misinformed Windows users still use Microsoft&#8217;s OSes.  If they were forced to buy the worthless crap, they might as well use it.  However, there is a cure to your Window&#8217;s problem Jon.<br />
A website with tons of information about Microsoft and how to switch to Linux.<br />
<a href="http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=2006061302494935" rel="nofollow">http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=2006061302494935</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never used or seen CentOS, but Ubuntu is much more stable and secure than XP and Vista.  I recommend Ubuntu.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-773399</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of all the hundreds of operating systems why dose a man of your political/commercial  views use XP? might i recommend CentOS(red hat clone stable and secure) as a replacement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of all the hundreds of operating systems why dose a man of your political/commercial  views use XP? might i recommend CentOS(red hat clone stable and secure) as a replacement.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-773377</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you should consider ubuntu...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you should consider ubuntu&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ermich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-773369</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ermich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about your system, man -- that sucks :(

   (Have a sneaking suspicion it might not be &quot;accidental&quot; however, given the fact that you&#039;re rather outspoken against the stupid shit big media/software conglomerates are trying to do to &quot;our&quot; culture (which they&#039;ve sold us for years under the guise of their &quot;fundamental right&quot; to perpetual monopoly, but I Digress....)

   The &quot;Metallica Youtube User channel&quot; is interesting to me for a few reasons:
   1. Metallica&#039;s response to the &quot;Digital Age&quot; has always been a big odd.  They built their fanbase around not merely allowing -- but ENCOURAGING -- tape-sharing and &quot;bootleg&quot; recordings of their gigs, but got all pissy when some of that (and their major label recordings) showed up on Napster.  Irony?  To say the least: if you&#039;ve built your career on a particular sort of &quot;understanding&quot; with your fans, don&#039;t be suprised if they turn on you when you attempt to &quot;change the rules.&quot;

    2. Y&#039;all ever heard of a group called &quot;Beatallica?&quot;  They&#039;re basically a parody band doing funny remakes of Beatles songs in a style similar to Metallica&#039;s earlier (good) material.
    Well (as you can probably guess) the corporate Megalith who own the &quot;rights&quot; to the Beatles catalog attempted their usual &quot;cease and desist&quot; bullshit tactics.  However, for some reason -- maybe because Lars &amp; Pals found them to be funny, Metalica actually showed a negligible amount of &quot;balls&quot; by defending Beatallica&#039;s stuff.  As a result, at least as of a year ago, the stuff was still available.

    NOW --- after having thoroughly alienated the vast majority of their original fanbase with their response to Napster AND having experienced a steady decline in interest since then (&quot;St. Anger&quot;, anyone?)  they -- or more likely, their Corporate overlords -- come up with the &quot;brilliant&quot; idea to create a Youtube channel where their fans are not merely &quot;permitted&quot; -- but even ENCOURAGED -- to perform Metallica&#039;s material -- one would hope without fear of having their accounts closed for &quot;copyright infringement&quot;.

    Never mind the fact that Youtube users have already been technically violating &quot;copyright law&quot; by singing/playing their own &quot;cover versions&quot; of ALL SORTS of stuff for years.  Never mind the fact that -- under any other circumstances what Lars &amp; Pals are advocating would likely get a lot of people slapped with &quot;Cease and Desist&quot; letters and/or lawsuits.  Disregarding both of those facts, one is left with the inescapable conclusion that this is a desperate -- and one hopes, futile -- attempt to get back into the &quot;good graces&quot; of the &quot;digerati&quot;.

    In the words of some 14 yr. old &quot;3l33t HaxXorZ&quot; somewhere; EPIC FAIL!

    Groove on, Y&#039;all! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about your system, man &#8212; that sucks <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>   (Have a sneaking suspicion it might not be &#8220;accidental&#8221; however, given the fact that you&#8217;re rather outspoken against the stupid shit big media/software conglomerates are trying to do to &#8220;our&#8221; culture (which they&#8217;ve sold us for years under the guise of their &#8220;fundamental right&#8221; to perpetual monopoly, but I Digress&#8230;.)</p>
<p>   The &#8220;Metallica Youtube User channel&#8221; is interesting to me for a few reasons:<br />
   1. Metallica&#8217;s response to the &#8220;Digital Age&#8221; has always been a big odd.  They built their fanbase around not merely allowing &#8212; but ENCOURAGING &#8212; tape-sharing and &#8220;bootleg&#8221; recordings of their gigs, but got all pissy when some of that (and their major label recordings) showed up on Napster.  Irony?  To say the least: if you&#8217;ve built your career on a particular sort of &#8220;understanding&#8221; with your fans, don&#8217;t be suprised if they turn on you when you attempt to &#8220;change the rules.&#8221;</p>
<p>    2. Y&#8217;all ever heard of a group called &#8220;Beatallica?&#8221;  They&#8217;re basically a parody band doing funny remakes of Beatles songs in a style similar to Metallica&#8217;s earlier (good) material.<br />
    Well (as you can probably guess) the corporate Megalith who own the &#8220;rights&#8221; to the Beatles catalog attempted their usual &#8220;cease and desist&#8221; bullshit tactics.  However, for some reason &#8212; maybe because Lars &amp; Pals found them to be funny, Metalica actually showed a negligible amount of &#8220;balls&#8221; by defending Beatallica&#8217;s stuff.  As a result, at least as of a year ago, the stuff was still available.</p>
<p>    NOW &#8212; after having thoroughly alienated the vast majority of their original fanbase with their response to Napster AND having experienced a steady decline in interest since then (&#8221;St. Anger&#8221;, anyone?)  they &#8212; or more likely, their Corporate overlords &#8212; come up with the &#8220;brilliant&#8221; idea to create a Youtube channel where their fans are not merely &#8220;permitted&#8221; &#8212; but even ENCOURAGED &#8212; to perform Metallica&#8217;s material &#8212; one would hope without fear of having their accounts closed for &#8220;copyright infringement&#8221;.</p>
<p>    Never mind the fact that Youtube users have already been technically violating &#8220;copyright law&#8221; by singing/playing their own &#8220;cover versions&#8221; of ALL SORTS of stuff for years.  Never mind the fact that &#8212; under any other circumstances what Lars &amp; Pals are advocating would likely get a lot of people slapped with &#8220;Cease and Desist&#8221; letters and/or lawsuits.  Disregarding both of those facts, one is left with the inescapable conclusion that this is a desperate &#8212; and one hopes, futile &#8212; attempt to get back into the &#8220;good graces&#8221; of the &#8220;digerati&#8221;.</p>
<p>    In the words of some 14 yr. old &#8220;3l33t HaxXorZ&#8221; somewhere; EPIC FAIL!</p>
<p>    Groove on, Y&#8217;all! <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-773214</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lars is finding out what a few artists over time have found out. When you piss off your fans, they got long memories. He dumped on them with the p2p downloading and is being granted his wish and more. Very few are willing to offer Metallica music for share. So they are now descending into obscurity from whence they came. With that obscurity comes lack of sales and lack of income. 

Lars has since had a chance of heart about p2p but as you can see, the public hasn&#039;t forgotten the original message he put out. He will never live this down and his career as a leading musician is pretty much over. He&#039;ll never recoup his once gained levels of fame and fortune. 

There are many other groups out there without Lars penchant for dumping on their fans. No one will miss him nor return to his groups fan base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lars is finding out what a few artists over time have found out. When you piss off your fans, they got long memories. He dumped on them with the p2p downloading and is being granted his wish and more. Very few are willing to offer Metallica music for share. So they are now descending into obscurity from whence they came. With that obscurity comes lack of sales and lack of income. </p>
<p>Lars has since had a chance of heart about p2p but as you can see, the public hasn&#8217;t forgotten the original message he put out. He will never live this down and his career as a leading musician is pretty much over. He&#8217;ll never recoup his once gained levels of fame and fortune. </p>
<p>There are many other groups out there without Lars penchant for dumping on their fans. No one will miss him nor return to his groups fan base.</p>
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		<title>By: Gr8oldies</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-773170</link>
		<dc:creator>Gr8oldies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lars Ulrich you are a piece of crap I wouldn&#039;t play any of your music if you were the last band on earth.I pray for the day I see you standing on the side of the road begging for a handout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lars Ulrich you are a piece of crap I wouldn&#8217;t play any of your music if you were the last band on earth.I pray for the day I see you standing on the side of the road begging for a handout.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-772988</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;make sur eto flash your bios too never know what ya got inside&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16969/comment-page-1#comment-772903</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta love systems now a days, don&#039;t even come with the software you buy.
I guess you lost the recovery CD too (if it even had that) ? Sometimes the OS/hardware hides on there. Also there is often a hidden second recovery partition.

More money for mickysoft, selling you your OS twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love systems now a days, don&#8217;t even come with the software you buy.<br />
I guess you lost the recovery CD too (if it even had that) ? Sometimes the OS/hardware hides on there. Also there is often a hidden second recovery partition.</p>
<p>More money for mickysoft, selling you your OS twice.</p>
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