<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Metallica, The Pirate Bay interview row</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995</link>
	<description>p2pnet.net - reader powered</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:56:06 -0600</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: c'mon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995/comment-page-1#comment-784812</link>
		<dc:creator>c'mon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995#comment-784812</guid>
		<description>Thank you, Henry Emrich.

How wonderful to read an intelligent, mature, and clear-headed opinion on this topic, instead of &quot;Metallica sucks cuz of Napster&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Henry Emrich.</p>
<p>How wonderful to read an intelligent, mature, and clear-headed opinion on this topic, instead of &#8220;Metallica sucks cuz of Napster&#8221;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995/comment-page-1#comment-782598</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995#comment-782598</guid>
		<description>So if a reporter from Canada downloaded the cd would they get pissed seeing it is still considered legal to download music here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if a reporter from Canada downloaded the cd would they get pissed seeing it is still considered legal to download music here.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995/comment-page-1#comment-781490</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995#comment-781490</guid>
		<description>Oh yeah, don&#039;t get me wrong here:  I truly respect the desire for artists to grow and try new stuff -- look at Johnny Cash for example.  Dunno about you, but I personally think he was a musical genius, and prefer HIS version of &quot;hurt&quot; to the Trent Reznor one...

   What I DON&#039;T respect is an act who started out with an explicity pro-&quot;bootleg&quot; stance when they were &quot;on the way up&quot;, turned a 180 and got all aggressive during their &quot;major label&quot; heyday, and, now that they&#039;re arguably on the way down -- not out, by any means, but way less trendy than, say, Slipknot -- NOW they come out with a Youtube channel explicitly encouraging people to engage in &quot;public performance&quot; of their works.  Admittedly it&#039;s &quot;authorized&quot; public performance, but still.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, don&#8217;t get me wrong here:  I truly respect the desire for artists to grow and try new stuff &#8212; look at Johnny Cash for example.  Dunno about you, but I personally think he was a musical genius, and prefer HIS version of &#8220;hurt&#8221; to the Trent Reznor one&#8230;</p>
<p>   What I DON&#8217;T respect is an act who started out with an explicity pro-&#8221;bootleg&#8221; stance when they were &#8220;on the way up&#8221;, turned a 180 and got all aggressive during their &#8220;major label&#8221; heyday, and, now that they&#8217;re arguably on the way down &#8212; not out, by any means, but way less trendy than, say, Slipknot &#8212; NOW they come out with a Youtube channel explicitly encouraging people to engage in &#8220;public performance&#8221; of their works.  Admittedly it&#8217;s &#8220;authorized&#8221; public performance, but still&#8230;..</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: c'mon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995/comment-page-1#comment-781265</link>
		<dc:creator>c'mon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995#comment-781265</guid>
		<description>This album is a welcome return to a more &quot;pre-1990&quot; sound. It seriously rocks. Thank you, Rick Rubin!

Yeah, they are not what they were in 1986, but no one good ever is. That&#039;s the reason that all these artists that died before their time are so popular now. They never had the chance to grow away from what their fans loved about them initially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This album is a welcome return to a more &#8220;pre-1990&#8243; sound. It seriously rocks. Thank you, Rick Rubin!</p>
<p>Yeah, they are not what they were in 1986, but no one good ever is. That&#8217;s the reason that all these artists that died before their time are so popular now. They never had the chance to grow away from what their fans loved about them initially.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Henry Ermich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995/comment-page-1#comment-780385</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ermich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995#comment-780385</guid>
		<description>The thing that really bothers me about Metallica isn&#039;t even that they got pissed about Napster (on a visceral level, as a musician myself, I understand how they could have believed they were &quot;losing control&quot; over their music.  (Disregarding, of course, that signing with a &quot;major label&quot; automatically means that they&#039;d forfeited just about all forms of creative control in exchange for -- theoretically -- bigger distribution, but that&#039;s another issue which I won&#039;t get into, in the interests of preventing any more &quot;flamage&quot;.)

   So, yeah, I can see how Lars could have been puzzled and dismayed by Napster.  But the thing of it is, prior to signing with a major label, they were extremely &quot;taper-friendly&quot;, encouraging fans not only to record their shows but -- more importantly -- to TRADE (&quot;share&quot;, you might even say) those tapes around.  Hell, half of the fanbase of Metallica came from people turning other people ONTO them via mixtapes and bootlegs and such.

   Why is this important?  Well, let&#039;s be honest: if you&#039;ve built your entire fanbase on a particular set of principles and then suddenly decide to get all pissy when those same principles are put into practice on a larger scale, you&#039;re gonna lose at least a sizeable chunk of your fans.

Add the fact that &quot;St. Anger&quot; was total crap, and you have Metallica in total free-fall.

  Let&#039;s not forget that what the actions Lars is &quot;thanking&quot; Youtubers for are the exact same actions which would otherwise get them slapped with &quot;cease and desist&quot; threats and/or having their accounts revoked.  So, this whole &quot;Do your own metallica covers&quot; deal on Youtube rings a little bit hollow to a lot of people.  

   (Add to that the fact that Lars didn&#039;t even really seem to know what they&#039;re Youtube channel was called, but by his own admission &quot;had been told&quot; what it&#039;s name was, and the thing looks like what it is: an attempt to get back into the good graces of the very same &quot;Internet Culture&quot; they shit on back in 2000.

  Another really weird wrinkle in Metallica&#039;s downright schizophrenic approach to this stuff is -- as I mentioned before -- their response to the parody/cover-band &quot;Beatallica&quot;, after they were slapped with &quot;Cease and desist&quot; threats.  Lars especially leapt to that group&#039;s defense, so it&#039;s pretty weird all the way around.

  (And no, I&#039;m not a &quot;hater&quot; -- &quot;justice&quot; was -- and is -- one of my favorite albums of all time.  But you can&#039;t shit all over your fanbase and then expect to just &quot;walk it off&quot; with a &quot;do your own cover-version&quot; contest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that really bothers me about Metallica isn&#8217;t even that they got pissed about Napster (on a visceral level, as a musician myself, I understand how they could have believed they were &#8220;losing control&#8221; over their music.  (Disregarding, of course, that signing with a &#8220;major label&#8221; automatically means that they&#8217;d forfeited just about all forms of creative control in exchange for &#8212; theoretically &#8212; bigger distribution, but that&#8217;s another issue which I won&#8217;t get into, in the interests of preventing any more &#8220;flamage&#8221;.)</p>
<p>   So, yeah, I can see how Lars could have been puzzled and dismayed by Napster.  But the thing of it is, prior to signing with a major label, they were extremely &#8220;taper-friendly&#8221;, encouraging fans not only to record their shows but &#8212; more importantly &#8212; to TRADE (&#8221;share&#8221;, you might even say) those tapes around.  Hell, half of the fanbase of Metallica came from people turning other people ONTO them via mixtapes and bootlegs and such.</p>
<p>   Why is this important?  Well, let&#8217;s be honest: if you&#8217;ve built your entire fanbase on a particular set of principles and then suddenly decide to get all pissy when those same principles are put into practice on a larger scale, you&#8217;re gonna lose at least a sizeable chunk of your fans.</p>
<p>Add the fact that &#8220;St. Anger&#8221; was total crap, and you have Metallica in total free-fall.</p>
<p>  Let&#8217;s not forget that what the actions Lars is &#8220;thanking&#8221; Youtubers for are the exact same actions which would otherwise get them slapped with &#8220;cease and desist&#8221; threats and/or having their accounts revoked.  So, this whole &#8220;Do your own metallica covers&#8221; deal on Youtube rings a little bit hollow to a lot of people.  </p>
<p>   (Add to that the fact that Lars didn&#8217;t even really seem to know what they&#8217;re Youtube channel was called, but by his own admission &#8220;had been told&#8221; what it&#8217;s name was, and the thing looks like what it is: an attempt to get back into the good graces of the very same &#8220;Internet Culture&#8221; they shit on back in 2000.</p>
<p>  Another really weird wrinkle in Metallica&#8217;s downright schizophrenic approach to this stuff is &#8212; as I mentioned before &#8212; their response to the parody/cover-band &#8220;Beatallica&#8221;, after they were slapped with &#8220;Cease and desist&#8221; threats.  Lars especially leapt to that group&#8217;s defense, so it&#8217;s pretty weird all the way around.</p>
<p>  (And no, I&#8217;m not a &#8220;hater&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;justice&#8221; was &#8212; and is &#8212; one of my favorite albums of all time.  But you can&#8217;t shit all over your fanbase and then expect to just &#8220;walk it off&#8221; with a &#8220;do your own cover-version&#8221; contest.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995/comment-page-1#comment-780148</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995#comment-780148</guid>
		<description>METALLICA are shit. don&#039;t want their music for free either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>METALLICA are shit. don&#8217;t want their music for free either.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mike Ox-Small</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995/comment-page-1#comment-780127</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Ox-Small</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995#comment-780127</guid>
		<description>I wouldn&#039;t buy any Metallica album for any price, even if it included lyrics, concert footage or pictures of Ulrich&#039;s nads!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t buy any Metallica album for any price, even if it included lyrics, concert footage or pictures of Ulrich&#8217;s nads!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995/comment-page-1#comment-779979</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16995#comment-779979</guid>
		<description>I actually bought a copy of Death Magnetic. Sounds good so far (I&#039;m listening to it right now)-- but the packaging is crap. The die-cut cover actually eats into the printed lyrics, and the front clear plastic thing with the title printed on it is glued to the shrinkwrap and came right off. Also they&#039;re not using a proper CD jewel case probably due to &quot;eco-concerns&quot;.

But hey, it was $8.99! If it were $16.99 I might have had second thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually bought a copy of Death Magnetic. Sounds good so far (I&#8217;m listening to it right now)&#8211; but the packaging is crap. The die-cut cover actually eats into the printed lyrics, and the front clear plastic thing with the title printed on it is glued to the shrinkwrap and came right off. Also they&#8217;re not using a proper CD jewel case probably due to &#8220;eco-concerns&#8221;.</p>
<p>But hey, it was $8.99! If it were $16.99 I might have had second thoughts.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
