Comments on: RIAA case with ‘innocent infringement’ defense http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17064 p2pnet.net - reader powered Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:31:02 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Irate Pirate http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17064/comment-page-1#comment-814722 Irate Pirate Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:10:10 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17064#comment-814722 Hey Rafael. Next time you get pulled over for speeding, tell the police officer that you don't deserve a ticket because you didn't know what the speed limit was. If you want, tell the officer your also mentally handicapped just for good measure and see what happens. ;-) Ignorance: The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed. I find a lot of people tend to be ignorant as to the true meaning of that word. Whether you should or shouldn't be doing a possibly criminal act comes down to common sense more often than not. If you are unsure of the law or it's meaning, it is your responsibility (or your caregivers) to find out more. Sadly, common sense doesn't seem to be so common anymore and people are too lazy to make the effort these days. Responsibility seems to be a foreign concept to most folk as well. The other common defense we tend to see a lot is blaming something or someone else for why we do the stupid things we do. People will make up just about any kind of excuse in order to wiggle out of whatever jam they've gotten themselves into. Self preservation is a powerful instinct. Sadly it doesn't matter in the end because the court is usually only interested in one thing 99% of the time; guilty of wrongdoing or not. In most cases the why simply doesn't matter. Filesharers need to stop deluding themselves into thinking piracy is a noble cause. It's not. The bigger picture may be perhaps, especially net neutrality and consumer rights in particular. Even so, I know the main reason I download movies, TV, software and music is because of the cost savings, same as everyone else. It's hard to beat free stuffz. Greed is human nature. Pretending that downloading copyrighted works without paying for them is all for some greater cause is stupid and we all know it deep down. I also know that the "evil corporations" aren't any better and probably do deserve to be forcefully put in their place as well, but then again it's not like I'm being forced to buy their overpriced junk or can't live without it. Think common sense and responsibility sucks? Stop whining and grow up already. Hey Rafael. Next time you get pulled over for speeding, tell the police officer that you don’t deserve a ticket because you didn’t know what the speed limit was. If you want, tell the officer your also mentally handicapped just for good measure and see what happens. ;-)

Ignorance: The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.

I find a lot of people tend to be ignorant as to the true meaning of that word.

Whether you should or shouldn’t be doing a possibly criminal act comes down to common sense more often than not. If you are unsure of the law or it’s meaning, it is your responsibility (or your caregivers) to find out more. Sadly, common sense doesn’t seem to be so common anymore and people are too lazy to make the effort these days. Responsibility seems to be a foreign concept to most folk as well.

The other common defense we tend to see a lot is blaming something or someone else for why we do the stupid things we do. People will make up just about any kind of excuse in order to wiggle out of whatever jam they’ve gotten themselves into. Self preservation is a powerful instinct. Sadly it doesn’t matter in the end because the court is usually only interested in one thing 99% of the time; guilty of wrongdoing or not. In most cases the why simply doesn’t matter.

Filesharers need to stop deluding themselves into thinking piracy is a noble cause. It’s not. The bigger picture may be perhaps, especially net neutrality and consumer rights in particular. Even so, I know the main reason I download movies, TV, software and music is because of the cost savings, same as everyone else. It’s hard to beat free stuffz. Greed is human nature. Pretending that downloading copyrighted works without paying for them is all for some greater cause is stupid and we all know it deep down. I also know that the “evil corporations” aren’t any better and probably do deserve to be forcefully put in their place as well, but then again it’s not like I’m being forced to buy their overpriced junk or can’t live without it. Think common sense and responsibility sucks? Stop whining and grow up already.

]]> By: Rafael Venegas http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17064/comment-page-1#comment-792364 Rafael Venegas Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:46:51 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17064#comment-792364 Irate Pirate Says "there is no excuse for ignorance". Wrong. There are many reasons (excuse is an ugly euphemism). Here are some: - Mental illness - Low IQ / Mental retardation - Complicated laws - Complicated jurisprudence - Too many opinions as to the meaning of the law - Wrong legal advise - Too busy working to eat - Too young - Too inexperienced - Born in a slum - Alcoholic parents - No money to get educated ...and so on. I'm speaking of reasons. "Ignorance is no excuse" is an oxymoron because it is a perfect reason, regardless that many educated persons are biased against the lesser educated persons. As for being a jackass, as are most judges that say that "ignorance is no excuse", ignorance is no excuse. Irate Pirate Says “there is no excuse for ignorance”.
Wrong. There are many reasons (excuse is an ugly euphemism). Here are some:
- Mental illness
- Low IQ / Mental retardation
- Complicated laws
- Complicated jurisprudence
- Too many opinions as to the meaning of the law
- Wrong legal advise
- Too busy working to eat
- Too young
- Too inexperienced
- Born in a slum
- Alcoholic parents
- No money to get educated
…and so on.

I’m speaking of reasons. “Ignorance is no excuse” is an oxymoron because it is a perfect reason, regardless that many educated persons are biased against the lesser educated persons.

As for being a jackass, as are most judges that say that “ignorance is no excuse”, ignorance is no excuse.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17064/comment-page-1#comment-789903 Reader's Write Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:58:24 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17064#comment-789903 "The ignorance defense is kind of like shooting someone with a gun and then trying to claim you didn’t know it was loaded." No, but spaying with pest killer the RIAA/MPAA parasites will certainly work. “The ignorance defense is kind of like shooting someone with a gun and then trying to claim you didn’t know it was loaded.”

No, but spaying with pest killer the RIAA/MPAA parasites will certainly work.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17064/comment-page-1#comment-789899 Reader's Write Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:54:01 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17064#comment-789899 “One bright spot was a sharp jump of 9,000 jobs in the motion picture and sound recording industry between July and August. ” As lomg as it is not to the benefit of the majors RIAA/MPAA parasites I have no objection. “One bright spot was a sharp jump of 9,000 jobs in the motion picture and sound recording industry between July and August. ”

As lomg as it is not to the benefit of the majors RIAA/MPAA parasites I have no objection.

]]> By: Irate Pirate http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17064/comment-page-1#comment-789739 Irate Pirate Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:12:43 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17064#comment-789739 Since when has the 'I'm ignorant your honor!' defense ever worked for someone? Usually the reply is that one should have known better and that there is no excuse for ignorance. If you didn't know, you should have looked into it, especially when it's too good to be true. The ignorance defense is kind of like shooting someone with a gun and then trying to claim you didn't know it was loaded. "Los Angeles county’s latest employment statistics show a hiring boom in the movie, TV and music industries, something that we are unlikely to be hearing much about, since it’s a fact that’s out-of-sync with the **AA’s song we’re supposed to be humming to." That is one of the wittiest lines I've read in a while. Thanks for the laugh! :-) Since when has the ‘I’m ignorant your honor!’ defense ever worked for someone? Usually the reply is that one should have known better and that there is no excuse for ignorance. If you didn’t know, you should have looked into it, especially when it’s too good to be true. The ignorance defense is kind of like shooting someone with a gun and then trying to claim you didn’t know it was loaded.

“Los Angeles county’s latest employment statistics show a hiring boom in the movie, TV and music industries, something that we are unlikely to be hearing much about, since it’s a fact that’s out-of-sync with the **AA’s song we’re supposed to be humming to.”

That is one of the wittiest lines I’ve read in a while. Thanks for the laugh! :-)

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17064/comment-page-1#comment-788778 Reader's Write Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:34:32 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17064#comment-788778 RE: "dripping tap principle — say it loud enough and often enough and eventually, everybody thinks it’s true" Kind of like their constant claims that people in the entertainment industry are losing their jobs in torrents because of internet file sharing. Los Angeles county's latest employment statistics show a hiring boom in the movie, TV and music industries, something that we are unlikely to be hearing much about, since it's a fact that's out-of-sync with the **AA's song we're supposed to be humming to. "One bright spot was a sharp jump of 9,000 jobs in the motion picture and sound recording industry between July and August. " source: labusinessjournal.com/article.asp?aID=29096534.1413822.1684202.6573166.6636515.419&aID2=129545 RE: “dripping tap principle — say it loud enough and often enough and eventually, everybody thinks it’s true”

Kind of like their constant claims that people in the entertainment industry are losing their jobs in torrents because of internet file sharing.

Los Angeles county’s latest employment statistics show a hiring boom in the movie, TV and music industries, something that we are unlikely to be hearing much about, since it’s a fact that’s out-of-sync with the **AA’s song we’re supposed to be humming to.

“One bright spot was a sharp jump of 9,000 jobs in the motion picture and sound recording industry between July and August. ”

source: labusinessjournal.com/article.asp?aID=29096534.1413822.1684202.6573166.6636515.419&aID2=129545

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