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		<title>By: UncleFoo</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17118/comment-page-1#comment-810790</link>
		<dc:creator>UncleFoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“No one will spend any money making a movie or a recording if copies can be freely made and sold in streets and stores.&quot;

I&#039;m pretty sure that music existed before copyright. And it would continue to exist if copyright went away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“No one will spend any money making a movie or a recording if copies can be freely made and sold in streets and stores.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that music existed before copyright. And it would continue to exist if copyright went away.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17118/comment-page-1#comment-803916</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No one will spend any money making a movie or a recording if copies can be freely made and sold in streets and stores. &quot;

We&#039;ll have to make sure there is some other incentive, product or service to get people to part with their money and/or find some way to fund the creators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No one will spend any money making a movie or a recording if copies can be freely made and sold in streets and stores. &#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll have to make sure there is some other incentive, product or service to get people to part with their money and/or find some way to fund the creators.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael Venegas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rafael Venegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry Emrich, you are mostly right on the ball, but let me add:

&quot;How is anybody supposed to actually know WHO holds the “copyright” on something with no registry?&quot;
How s anybody to know when a work is in the public domain. Because there is no way of knowing for ordinary people, ordinary people cannot copy anything without risking being sued.

&quot;The solution is to render copyright completely and utterly unenforceable in any form whatsoever.&quot;
No that is no solution. No one will spend any money making a movie or a recording if copies can be freely made and sold in streets and stores. The solution is to enforce only criminal infringement, which I describe as copying for direct sale profit.

There are about 100 records from about 20 record companies (some are major ones) being sold in USA stores and the USA based Internet web pages with songs whose copyright belong to my family and music publisher (gvenegas.com) without any license or payment of royalties. On the other hand we know of not one record where legalities (with license) are in order. This is in my view criminal infringement and is rampant in the record industry. The crooks who run the record companies should be prosecuted, and the Jammie Thomas and the 14 year old kids who copy for personal joy should be left alone.

Is it not ironic that same same record companies that frequently infringe the rights of authors are the ones most opposed to personal copying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry Emrich, you are mostly right on the ball, but let me add:</p>
<p>&#8220;How is anybody supposed to actually know WHO holds the “copyright” on something with no registry?&#8221;<br />
How s anybody to know when a work is in the public domain. Because there is no way of knowing for ordinary people, ordinary people cannot copy anything without risking being sued.</p>
<p>&#8220;The solution is to render copyright completely and utterly unenforceable in any form whatsoever.&#8221;<br />
No that is no solution. No one will spend any money making a movie or a recording if copies can be freely made and sold in streets and stores. The solution is to enforce only criminal infringement, which I describe as copying for direct sale profit.</p>
<p>There are about 100 records from about 20 record companies (some are major ones) being sold in USA stores and the USA based Internet web pages with songs whose copyright belong to my family and music publisher (gvenegas.com) without any license or payment of royalties. On the other hand we know of not one record where legalities (with license) are in order. This is in my view criminal infringement and is rampant in the record industry. The crooks who run the record companies should be prosecuted, and the Jammie Thomas and the 14 year old kids who copy for personal joy should be left alone.</p>
<p>Is it not ironic that same same record companies that frequently infringe the rights of authors are the ones most opposed to personal copying?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17118/comment-page-1#comment-802410</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The solution is to render copyright completely and utterly unenforceable in any form whatsoever.&quot;.

Ya that&#039;s what I  think too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The solution is to render copyright completely and utterly unenforceable in any form whatsoever.&#8221;.</p>
<p>Ya that&#8217;s what I  think too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17118/comment-page-1#comment-802206</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right. Thanks for pointing it out. Fixed.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right. Thanks for pointing it out. Fixed.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17118/comment-page-1#comment-802169</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(from the 3rd paragraph)
&quot;But Thomas later said he was considering a mistrial...&quot;
       ^^^^^

(should be &quot;Davis&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(from the 3rd paragraph)<br />
&#8220;But Thomas later said he was considering a mistrial&#8230;&#8221;<br />
       ^^^^^</p>
<p>(should be &#8220;Davis&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17118/comment-page-1#comment-801870</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The judge SHOULD have reccomending that Congress amend the copyright act to correct the RIAA&#039;s bullshit &quot;extensions&quot;, and restore the original 11-year period.  Unfortunately, we don&#039;t get that -- instead, we get piddlingly-vague nonsense about &quot;addressing liabiilities and damages&quot;.  What about the inestimable &quot;damage&quot; to teh public-domain done by the RIAA Lobby-bots?  

  What about the infamous &quot;orphaned works&quot; problem?  That was essentially created in the 1970s, when they dropped the registration requirement.  How is anybody supposed to actually know WHO holds the &quot;copyright&quot; on something with no registry?  

  They can&#039;t -- which was exactly what the RIAA and other sundry lobbybots wanted: with no explicit requirement that an item be registered, anybody can basically claim ANYTHING in regard to copyright, and, thanks to their multi-billion stable of ambulance-chasers, they figured it was a foregone conclusion that they&#039;d always win, simply because they could smash anything they didn&#039;t like by means of nuissance lawsuits etc.

   Ultimately, the solution isn&#039;t so much copyright reform -- although that&#039;s important.  The solution is to render copyright completely and utterly unenforceable in any form whatsoever. Mass, continuous, ubiquitous civil disobedience on a global scale.

   Let the bastards try to sue hundreds of thousands, millions, or even hundreds of millions.  Eventually, no matter how big they are and HOW much money they have, the cost of attempting to prosecute such cases will become too burdensome, and the whole field of copyright &#039;law&#039; will finally look like the evil farce that it really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The judge SHOULD have reccomending that Congress amend the copyright act to correct the RIAA&#8217;s bullshit &#8220;extensions&#8221;, and restore the original 11-year period.  Unfortunately, we don&#8217;t get that &#8212; instead, we get piddlingly-vague nonsense about &#8220;addressing liabiilities and damages&#8221;.  What about the inestimable &#8220;damage&#8221; to teh public-domain done by the RIAA Lobby-bots?  </p>
<p>  What about the infamous &#8220;orphaned works&#8221; problem?  That was essentially created in the 1970s, when they dropped the registration requirement.  How is anybody supposed to actually know WHO holds the &#8220;copyright&#8221; on something with no registry?  </p>
<p>  They can&#8217;t &#8212; which was exactly what the RIAA and other sundry lobbybots wanted: with no explicit requirement that an item be registered, anybody can basically claim ANYTHING in regard to copyright, and, thanks to their multi-billion stable of ambulance-chasers, they figured it was a foregone conclusion that they&#8217;d always win, simply because they could smash anything they didn&#8217;t like by means of nuissance lawsuits etc.</p>
<p>   Ultimately, the solution isn&#8217;t so much copyright reform &#8212; although that&#8217;s important.  The solution is to render copyright completely and utterly unenforceable in any form whatsoever. Mass, continuous, ubiquitous civil disobedience on a global scale.</p>
<p>   Let the bastards try to sue hundreds of thousands, millions, or even hundreds of millions.  Eventually, no matter how big they are and HOW much money they have, the cost of attempting to prosecute such cases will become too burdensome, and the whole field of copyright &#8216;law&#8217; will finally look like the evil farce that it really is.</p>
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		<title>By: Silly Ratfaced Git</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17118/comment-page-1#comment-801559</link>
		<dc:creator>Silly Ratfaced Git</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found a typo:

“Donald B. Verrilli Jr, named by the Hollywood Reporter magazine as one of the top 100 ‘Power Lawyers‘”

should be

“Donald B. Verrilli Jr, named by the Hollywood Reporter magazine as one of the top 100 ‘Rabid Weasels‘”

The correction appears to be factually accurate, the original is highly misleading.

SRG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found a typo:</p>
<p>“Donald B. Verrilli Jr, named by the Hollywood Reporter magazine as one of the top 100 ‘Power Lawyers‘”</p>
<p>should be</p>
<p>“Donald B. Verrilli Jr, named by the Hollywood Reporter magazine as one of the top 100 ‘Rabid Weasels‘”</p>
<p>The correction appears to be factually accurate, the original is highly misleading.</p>
<p>SRG</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17118/comment-page-1#comment-801517</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Donald B. Verrilli Jr, named by the Hollywood Reporter magazine as one of the top 100 ‘Power Lawyers‘&quot;

Not dfor very much longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Donald B. Verrilli Jr, named by the Hollywood Reporter magazine as one of the top 100 ‘Power Lawyers‘&#8221;</p>
<p>Not dfor very much longer.</p>
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