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Carleton U to Mansour Moufid: pay $2,768

p2pnet news view Freedom | P2P:- Rumour has it mathematics and statistics undergraduate Mansour Moufid has decided Carleton University in Ottawa, Canada, isn’t the best place for him to continue his studies.

Authorities there, “decided to take matters into their own hands against an undergraduate because they were concerned the police wouldn’t,” p2pnet said recently, going on:

“However, their fears were unjustified and the undergraduate, Mansour Moufid … now faces up to 10 years in jail for his 16-page report on what he says is the the poor state of information security at the school.

“He gives chapter-and-verse of what he says could result in large-scale identity theft, in the process including the full names, usernames and passwords of 32 other students chosen, he states, at random as examples of the way in which he was able to compromise their Connect accounts.”

Writing as Kasper Holberg, Moufid was charged under the Criminal Code with mischief to data and unauthorized use of a computer.

So what’s the final verdict?

Moufid escapes jail, but Carleton U figures he should pay it almost $3,000 for uncovering a serious university security flaw, and then having the temerity to detail it in public.

Wikileaks has the document outlining the university’s demands.

Dated September 23 and signed by Suzanne Blanchard, vice president, student support services, it orders Moufid to pay “restitution” for 32 student cards for “those students whose accounts you access (amount $608.00),” and, “the cost of extra security staff at the residence buildings due to the unknown risk caused by the breach of the campus card system (amount $2,160.00).”

Moufid has also been told to write to each student and, “This letter must include the information that this was not the first incident, that you lied about alerting the university earlier and the details of what you actually did.”

Not only but also, he’s been ordered to, “register, attend, and successfully complete an Ethics course,” pre-approved by the director of student affairs, “at a post-secondary to tuition by the end of the current academic year”.

And, “You will sign an acknowledgement and consent, by which you agree that Computing and Communication Services (CCS) will monitor all of your online activity through any Carleton University server for as long as you have access to Carlton online services, and you agree that the information obtained by CCS through that monitoring may be shared by CCS with such other university officials as CCS May consider appropriate.”

Stay tuned.

(Thanks, Luvie)

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13 Responses to “Carleton U to Mansour Moufid: pay $2,768”

  1. Reader's Write Says:

    Yes, do so. And also attach your bill in the process.

  2. Reader's Write Says:

    Jon,
    The worse part is this:

    Moufid has also been told to write to each student and, “This letter must include the information that this was not the first incident, that you lied about alerting the university earlier and the details of what you actually did.”

    But

    the story was already leaked showing HE DID NOT lie about alerting the univercity.

    Reason for the wikileak:
    5. It was leaked to expose the university’s attempts to deceive the public at the expense of the student. For example, the student is ordered to publicly deny having notified the university beforehand (this is verifiable as false).

    look at the bottom of https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/Cartleton_University_Campuscard_fiasco_diciplinary_decision_2008

  3. Andy Says:

    This story gets worse and worse. Is the student being told to confess to something he didn’t do? Isn’t this why the ’states have the fifth amendment? How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTFV9w4B0eg

  4. Reader's Write Says:

    He’s BEING TOLD to lie publically to everyone, by the university.

    He’s being told that their weak security (which he warned them about and then exposed) is the cause of the university having to spend almost 3000$ on added security. Which the university wants HIM to pay.

    The university is trying to lay all blame on their short-commings in security on this guy and are forcing him to lie in public and in writing about it.

  5. Comeoncomcast Says:

    What happened to a simple thank you?

  6. Silly Ratfaced Git Says:

    Whomever made the decision to handle this in this fashion at Carleton U. should be slapped and sterilized. They need the slap, and we don’t want any more of them.

    Another instance where I find it a shame that there isn’t a law against being an idiot.

    So they shoot the messenger. Do they have any plans to actually fix the security issues? Are they content with punishing a person for pointing out that they deployed a system whose security appears to be close to nil? Did they hire Bozo the clown to design this system. I think we should be told.

  7. Reader's Write Says:

    Silly Ratfaced Git Says: “I think we should be told.”

    The truth is what they don’t want getting out.
    Thus the reason for making him lie to the public.

  8. Reader's Write Says:

    The network admins at the school deserved it. Its like a digital slap in the face. They get paid a fortune to sit on their high horse and guard student/teacher privacy and they failed. This student advised the univ of the the privacy problems and they did nothing. Now they want him to pay damages and take an ethics course? ridiculous

    In the past my high school had some net nanny internet filter I sought out to bypass it. How? a proxy. seems like a simple idea but the admin had already thought of it and banned as many proxies as he could. So I set up several apache servers on my own computer and taught friends how to install it. What I did was link the proxies together and forwarded a domain to a subdirectory of proxies. I then printed the url along with a large bold title “how to bypass the schools bullshit internet filter” and made hundreds of copies. Lastly I decided to strategically place these throughout my school I even decided to scatter them by throwing them in the main stairwell right when classes ended. In conclusion the network admin used my apache proxies as an example of the fundamental flaw in the schools network filters; He managed to get himself appointed head of network administration at the york region district school board.

    The acts this student made are no different and he should be commended for his actions; not used and then raped for 3 grand.

  9. Reader's Write Says:

    CBC News at Six reported on this last Friday:

    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=k7bT-CeT7h4

  10. georges Duhamel Says:

    Carleton administrators who signed the letter sent to Mansour will certainly be charged for extortion of false confessions in the next few days.

    In Canada, the 2008 version of the Criminal Code prohibits extortion as set out at §346(1):

    “Every one commits extortion who, without reasonable justification or excuse and with intent to obtain anything, by threats, accusations, menaces or violence induces or attempts to induce any person, whether or not he is the person threatened, accused or menaced or to whom violence is shown, to do anything or cause anything to be done.”

    In R v Davis, Chief Justice lamer of Canada’s Supreme Court wrote, in 1999:

  11. georges Duhamel Says:

    In R v Davis, Chief Justice lamer of Canada’s Supreme Court wrote, in 1999:

    “Extortion criminalizes intimidation and interference with freedom of choice. It punishes those who, through threats, accusations, menaces, or violence induce or attempt to induce their victims into doing anything or causing anything to be done. Threats, accusations, menaces and violence clearly intimidate. When threats are coupled with demands, there is an inducement to accede to the demands. This interferes with the victim’s freedom of choice, as the victim may be coerced into doing something he or she would otherwise have chosen not to do.”

  12. Reader's Write Says:

    georges Duhamel Says:
    “Carleton administrators who signed the letter sent to Mansour will certainly be charged for extortion of false confessions in the next few days.”

    Do you honestly believe what you said?

    How does a student get and pay for a lawyer?

  13. Georges Duhamel Says:

    Yes I believe what I said.
    It has nothing to do with lawyers,when a crime is committed the offenders( i.e Suzanne Blanchard and Boudreault) should and will be prosecuted,it’s matter of days..
    Theses criminals can certainly pay for a good lawyer but their lawyer can not change the fact that they have committed a crime,the letter is online and everyone can read it and see that they are clearly trying to obtain false confessions from him by ordering him to deny that he alerted the university,while they have confirmed receiving the report,and it’s not the only false confession that they wanted to obtain from him,they wanted him to admit that it’s not his first offence and the truth is :it was his first offence,no other offence has been documented or reported by the university before.

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