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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17177/comment-page-1#comment-818418</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, if only more of the US colleges would start filing proper motions to dismiss and disconnect themselves from their MAFIAA-conceived role as Full-time Entertainment Industry Police/Informants/Illegal Software Distributors, some reality could be restored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, if only more of the US colleges would start filing proper motions to dismiss and disconnect themselves from their MAFIAA-conceived role as Full-time Entertainment Industry Police/Informants/Illegal Software Distributors, some reality could be restored.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ermich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17177/comment-page-1#comment-816402</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ermich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mostly:
    Spot on!
    Glad I explained it reasonably -- I&#039;m trying to actually contribute something meaningful to the discussions here, and not just troll-smash (although as anybody reading here can probably tell, I DO engage in a good bit of that as well!)  :)  

     TPB and similar organizations exemplify the &quot;civil disobedience&quot; aspect of why the thuggery of the RIAA/MPAA won&#039;t work.  It CAN&#039;T work, because, to put it bluntly, if you push people around enough, SOMEBODY is gonna push back.
    The &quot;backlash&quot; is taking many forms:

    1. The development of p2p technology
     2. The increasing skepticism about &quot;Intellectual property&quot; in general
    3. The rise in remix-culture.
    4. Increasing worries over cronyism between corporations and governments, of which the present state of IP law is merely one symptom.)

   These issues are WAY bigger  than the RIAA strawman notion that it&#039;s just &quot;greedy slacker teenagers&quot; with a &quot;faulty moral compass&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mostly:<br />
    Spot on!<br />
    Glad I explained it reasonably &#8212; I&#8217;m trying to actually contribute something meaningful to the discussions here, and not just troll-smash (although as anybody reading here can probably tell, I DO engage in a good bit of that as well!)  <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>     TPB and similar organizations exemplify the &#8220;civil disobedience&#8221; aspect of why the thuggery of the RIAA/MPAA won&#8217;t work.  It CAN&#8217;T work, because, to put it bluntly, if you push people around enough, SOMEBODY is gonna push back.<br />
    The &#8220;backlash&#8221; is taking many forms:</p>
<p>    1. The development of p2p technology<br />
     2. The increasing skepticism about &#8220;Intellectual property&#8221; in general<br />
    3. The rise in remix-culture.<br />
    4. Increasing worries over cronyism between corporations and governments, of which the present state of IP law is merely one symptom.)</p>
<p>   These issues are WAY bigger  than the RIAA strawman notion that it&#8217;s just &#8220;greedy slacker teenagers&#8221; with a &#8220;faulty moral compass&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17177/comment-page-1#comment-816369</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Henry:

&quot;TPB and the various “pirate parties” springing up in many countries are engaged in what linguists call “reclaiming”: taking a word which was originally intended to be pejorative and using it instead as a “badge of honor”.&quot;

This is exactly where I was going with my previous remark about TPB.
Nicely put, too!

As far as &quot;sheeple&quot; goes...
It bears the same quality as any of those invented rag media contractions, in that, it only appeals to those who become fascinated with such low-level attempts at creativity.  I&#039;d like to see it get buried, along with &quot;Bennifer&quot;, &quot;Brangelina&quot;....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Henry:</p>
<p>&#8220;TPB and the various “pirate parties” springing up in many countries are engaged in what linguists call “reclaiming”: taking a word which was originally intended to be pejorative and using it instead as a “badge of honor”.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is exactly where I was going with my previous remark about TPB.<br />
Nicely put, too!</p>
<p>As far as &#8220;sheeple&#8221; goes&#8230;<br />
It bears the same quality as any of those invented rag media contractions, in that, it only appeals to those who become fascinated with such low-level attempts at creativity.  I&#8217;d like to see it get buried, along with &#8220;Bennifer&#8221;, &#8220;Brangelina&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17177/comment-page-1#comment-815872</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Awesome headlines are awesome.&quot;

  Scheel: That&#039;s my new favorite sentence-construction from now on.

   &quot;Awesome tautologies are awesomely tautological.&quot;

    Devils/Mostly:
   1. The RIAA/MPAA scumbags came up with the term &quot;pirate&quot; as part of the same disinformation campaign which has evidently sucked &quot;Sam I am&#039;s&quot; brain right out of his head.  They want desperately to portray all forms of IP as &quot;fundamental human rights&quot;, and dismiss  any skepticism -- or historical evidence -- against that line as &quot;totally beside the point&quot; or &quot;rationalizations for selfish anarchy&quot; or suchlike.

   TPB and the various &quot;pirate parties&quot; springing up in many countries are engaged in what linguists call &quot;reclaiming&quot;:  taking a word which was originally intended to be pejorative and using it instead as a &quot;badge of honor&quot;.

   About the word &quot;sheeple&quot;:
   yes, it&#039;s descriptive, but, unfortunately, it&#039;s way too &quot;easy&quot; of a word -- it&#039;s been bandied about for way too long, and by way too many pundits on all sides of the ideological spectrum,  that it&#039;s become just another code-word intended to shut down discussion.

   Just like -- for example -- accusing somebody of being an &quot;anarchist&quot; or &quot;Commie.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Awesome headlines are awesome.&#8221;</p>
<p>  Scheel: That&#8217;s my new favorite sentence-construction from now on.</p>
<p>   &#8220;Awesome tautologies are awesomely tautological.&#8221;</p>
<p>    Devils/Mostly:<br />
   1. The RIAA/MPAA scumbags came up with the term &#8220;pirate&#8221; as part of the same disinformation campaign which has evidently sucked &#8220;Sam I am&#8217;s&#8221; brain right out of his head.  They want desperately to portray all forms of IP as &#8220;fundamental human rights&#8221;, and dismiss  any skepticism &#8212; or historical evidence &#8212; against that line as &#8220;totally beside the point&#8221; or &#8220;rationalizations for selfish anarchy&#8221; or suchlike.</p>
<p>   TPB and the various &#8220;pirate parties&#8221; springing up in many countries are engaged in what linguists call &#8220;reclaiming&#8221;:  taking a word which was originally intended to be pejorative and using it instead as a &#8220;badge of honor&#8221;.</p>
<p>   About the word &#8220;sheeple&#8221;:<br />
   yes, it&#8217;s descriptive, but, unfortunately, it&#8217;s way too &#8220;easy&#8221; of a word &#8212; it&#8217;s been bandied about for way too long, and by way too many pundits on all sides of the ideological spectrum,  that it&#8217;s become just another code-word intended to shut down discussion.</p>
<p>   Just like &#8212; for example &#8212; accusing somebody of being an &#8220;anarchist&#8221; or &#8220;Commie.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Scott Scheel</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17177/comment-page-1#comment-813982</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Scott Scheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people in most countries are sheeple, as most people can easily believe something a superior leader says.  A good amount of people break this mold, but unfortunately, many of them become dictators themselves once in power.

Anyways, I can confirm the validity of this article.  Me and my journalism teacher talked about it for a few minutes.  Awesome headlines are awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people in most countries are sheeple, as most people can easily believe something a superior leader says.  A good amount of people break this mold, but unfortunately, many of them become dictators themselves once in power.</p>
<p>Anyways, I can confirm the validity of this article.  Me and my journalism teacher talked about it for a few minutes.  Awesome headlines are awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17177/comment-page-1#comment-813887</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I would like to think that Canada is not filled with the mindless bots that now inhabit the US.&quot;

I would like to think that, too, and I am Canadian.
Unfortunately, I know differently.
:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I would like to think that Canada is not filled with the mindless bots that now inhabit the US.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would like to think that, too, and I am Canadian.<br />
Unfortunately, I know differently.<br />
 <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Silly Ratfaced Git</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17177/comment-page-1#comment-813367</link>
		<dc:creator>Silly Ratfaced Git</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, sheeple is a too often accurate description of the behavior of US citizens.  Or should I have said US consumers?  I&#039;m not qualified to comment on Canada.  I would like to think that Canada is not filled with the mindless bots that now inhabit the US.

YMMV

SRG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, sheeple is a too often accurate description of the behavior of US citizens.  Or should I have said US consumers?  I&#8217;m not qualified to comment on Canada.  I would like to think that Canada is not filled with the mindless bots that now inhabit the US.</p>
<p>YMMV</p>
<p>SRG</p>
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		<title>By: Mostly Harmless</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17177/comment-page-1#comment-813352</link>
		<dc:creator>Mostly Harmless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, guess I&#039;m the fool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, guess I&#8217;m the fool.</p>
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		<title>By: hahaha</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17177/comment-page-1#comment-813147</link>
		<dc:creator>hahaha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody&#039;s credibility instantly drops to zero the second they use the word &quot;sheeple.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody&#8217;s credibility instantly drops to zero the second they use the word &#8220;sheeple.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17177/comment-page-1#comment-813108</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mostly Harmless....

Someone should call The Pirate Bay!
If they only knew what the word meant, before choosing their name!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mostly Harmless&#8230;.</p>
<p>Someone should call The Pirate Bay!<br />
If they only knew what the word meant, before choosing their name!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mostly Harmless</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17177/comment-page-1#comment-813090</link>
		<dc:creator>Mostly Harmless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At last, a story that mentions real pirates. I have been trying in vain to get people to stop using the &quot;P&quot; word when referring to the exchange of information for a long time now. JON, are you getting this? Pirates are people who board ships at sea by force and often KILL other people in the process of stealing cargo. They are ruthless murdering scum. The RIAA/MPAA crowd has just gotta love that sheeple have gladly adopted the word &quot;piracy&quot; and title &quot;pirate&quot; when referring to P2P file sharing. I guess real pirates have been glamorized to the point where people forget what the word really means. The subconscious association that it is something wrong is still there, and that&#039;s exactly what the content &quot;owners&quot; want people to believe. It&#039;s a loosing battle. I know, but I will keep railing against it as long as there is a breath of life in me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last, a story that mentions real pirates. I have been trying in vain to get people to stop using the &#8220;P&#8221; word when referring to the exchange of information for a long time now. JON, are you getting this? Pirates are people who board ships at sea by force and often KILL other people in the process of stealing cargo. They are ruthless murdering scum. The RIAA/MPAA crowd has just gotta love that sheeple have gladly adopted the word &#8220;piracy&#8221; and title &#8220;pirate&#8221; when referring to P2P file sharing. I guess real pirates have been glamorized to the point where people forget what the word really means. The subconscious association that it is something wrong is still there, and that&#8217;s exactly what the content &#8220;owners&#8221; want people to believe. It&#8217;s a loosing battle. I know, but I will keep railing against it as long as there is a breath of life in me.</p>
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		<title>By: hahaha</title>
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		<dc:creator>hahaha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess they should have stuck with pirating Britney&#039;s latest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess they should have stuck with pirating Britney&#8217;s latest.</p>
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